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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Two maps showing what happens if we take WI, MI and PA. Go to the website make your own maps. [View all]Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)59. here's 2016 with JUST Texas flipped:
Last edited Wed May 1, 2019, 06:17 AM - Edit history (1)
All of our candidates have similar chances at pulling the traditional battleground states when it comes down to it, probably a bit extra favor in the Rust belt for Biden and Pete,
Beto is the main one that can pull a single state conversion win, AND still have a good chance of pulling in a few of the Rust belt states.
Beto also has a proven history of bumping down ticket candidates as well (my own district in Texas is blue for the first time since the 1960's when George HW Bush took the seat).
Beto could also pull some of the battlegrounds + Texas making for an even prettier win:
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Two maps showing what happens if we take WI, MI and PA. Go to the website make your own maps. [View all]
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
OP
Good info. It seems selecting a VP that would be popular in those states would help as well.
jalan48
Apr 2019
#1
I think Biden would be best as the presidential candidate ...he will take PA for sure...born there.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#3
It is risky and I don't see a woman who adds to the ticket...in terms of giving us another state.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#8
It is not sexist at all...and maybe Obama would have won the rustbelt without Biden but
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#18
I showed you the map...talked about georgraphyand but you can't show me because none can win the
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#36
Tell me how you see these candidates stopping Trump in the midwest...rebuilding the blue wall.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#50
The positions Harris has taken will allow the right to brand her as left...unfairly
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#71
We need to balance the ticket so I don't see the benefit for Klobachar or Ryan as VP...
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#51
This may be crazy but how about Michelle Obama is she would do it...I know I know...probably not
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#52
she has pretty much (not a faux stance, unfortunately IMHO) really slammed the door on ever running
Celerity
Apr 2019
#60
The Obamas have moved on.They're living the high life, having fun, producing films....
Honeycombe8
May 2019
#99
If you looked at the map, you would realize the importance of those few lunchbucket states.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#72
It has never been debunked...it is factual. She faced a challenge on the right and left.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#75
She would be the only one who might help the ticket...Minnesetoa is different than the states
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#19
I would think she would help more in those states than Harris. Harris will do well in the South but
jalan48
May 2019
#103
Big difference...Tennessee was gone by the time he ran for president for us...the blue wall is not
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#14
You need Geography to rebuild the blue wall...and Kamala is not moderate enough...Beto is
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#12
Mayor Pete is a great guy but will not win in the rustbelt. He won a very blue city in Indiana.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#13
I live in the rustbelt. And I have read some of what he said about manufacturing.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#86
It is a factor but not now ...mostly a convenient excuse... Delphi sent presses
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#89
I looked into what Pete said. He never said we don't need manufacturing jobs
marylandblue
May 2019
#113
All the rustbelt states (MI, WI and PA) have Democratic governors elected or reelectd in 18
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#7
We did win Arizona in 1996. And we would have won it in 2016 had it not been for Comey.
StevieM
Apr 2019
#26
96? Interestiing...Clinton's second term...That was 23 years ago...and I have no idea why you think
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#31
I did mean 16. Thanks for that...but a longtime DUer says that he would not count on Arizona.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#48
I think NC is a possibility with Biden. Not sure about any of the other candidates.
mnhtnbb
May 2019
#123
This is why we need someone that can expand the map rather than just fighting to keep the old one.
Renew Deal
Apr 2019
#16
We need to win and there is little chance of expansion...I would not bet on AZ, NC or FL.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#23
Do not expect AZ to go blue. If it happens, great, but absolutely do not plan on it.
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#29
The rustbelt blue wall is a better bet...I think. what do you think about the Senate race?
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#37
Kelly will have a much harder time than people think, with his stance on the AWB
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#40
Assault Weapons Ban. He advocates regulating semiautomatic weapons as the same as
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#45
I understand the emotion, certainly; my brother's family shops at that store
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#82
Sure Demographics are changing but not in the states we need and not soon enough. We must defeat
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#32
I want Texas too..it will happen maybe this year... but we can't count on it. As for
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#34
I presented facts...Trumps only path to victory is in PA, WI and MI. He has sent people to PA
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#49
Yes, your opinion, that's my point. You hammer this as if it were a done deal.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#55
That's step 6 of your circular argument where we circle back to "here's a map."
marylandblue
May 2019
#116
I am expressing my opinion. Biden can rebuild the blue wall. I don't see other candidates
Demsrule86
May 2019
#130
I am not counting on it...a sitting senator was taken down in Florida and we always think we will
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#65
Sinema is a centrist, and her opponent ran such a horrible campaign that even some Republicans
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#85
certainly no more centrist than Biden and trump is much less acceptable than mcsally
AlexSFCA
May 2019
#105
Without Arizona that is 270 ...bare minimum. This brings home that we have to rebuild the blue wall.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#66
Rs used the same maps when they managed to disinfranchise & spoiler vote small percent.
Sunlei
May 2019
#118
I think Biden could take NC. Not sure any of the other candidates could do that.
mnhtnbb
May 2019
#122