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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Two maps showing what happens if we take WI, MI and PA. Go to the website make your own maps. [View all]marylandblue
(12,344 posts)55. Yes, your opinion, that's my point. You hammer this as if it were a done deal.
He is leading in the polls today. That does not mean he will be leading in the polls a year from now. Front runners have had big falls before.
Nobody will neglect the rust belt this time around.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Two maps showing what happens if we take WI, MI and PA. Go to the website make your own maps. [View all]
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
OP
Good info. It seems selecting a VP that would be popular in those states would help as well.
jalan48
Apr 2019
#1
I think Biden would be best as the presidential candidate ...he will take PA for sure...born there.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#3
It is risky and I don't see a woman who adds to the ticket...in terms of giving us another state.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#8
It is not sexist at all...and maybe Obama would have won the rustbelt without Biden but
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#18
I showed you the map...talked about georgraphyand but you can't show me because none can win the
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#36
Tell me how you see these candidates stopping Trump in the midwest...rebuilding the blue wall.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#50
The positions Harris has taken will allow the right to brand her as left...unfairly
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#71
We need to balance the ticket so I don't see the benefit for Klobachar or Ryan as VP...
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#51
This may be crazy but how about Michelle Obama is she would do it...I know I know...probably not
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#52
she has pretty much (not a faux stance, unfortunately IMHO) really slammed the door on ever running
Celerity
Apr 2019
#60
The Obamas have moved on.They're living the high life, having fun, producing films....
Honeycombe8
May 2019
#99
If you looked at the map, you would realize the importance of those few lunchbucket states.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#72
It has never been debunked...it is factual. She faced a challenge on the right and left.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#75
She would be the only one who might help the ticket...Minnesetoa is different than the states
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#19
I would think she would help more in those states than Harris. Harris will do well in the South but
jalan48
May 2019
#103
Big difference...Tennessee was gone by the time he ran for president for us...the blue wall is not
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#14
You need Geography to rebuild the blue wall...and Kamala is not moderate enough...Beto is
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#12
Mayor Pete is a great guy but will not win in the rustbelt. He won a very blue city in Indiana.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#13
I live in the rustbelt. And I have read some of what he said about manufacturing.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#86
It is a factor but not now ...mostly a convenient excuse... Delphi sent presses
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#89
I looked into what Pete said. He never said we don't need manufacturing jobs
marylandblue
May 2019
#113
All the rustbelt states (MI, WI and PA) have Democratic governors elected or reelectd in 18
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#7
We did win Arizona in 1996. And we would have won it in 2016 had it not been for Comey.
StevieM
Apr 2019
#26
96? Interestiing...Clinton's second term...That was 23 years ago...and I have no idea why you think
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#31
I did mean 16. Thanks for that...but a longtime DUer says that he would not count on Arizona.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#48
I think NC is a possibility with Biden. Not sure about any of the other candidates.
mnhtnbb
May 2019
#123
This is why we need someone that can expand the map rather than just fighting to keep the old one.
Renew Deal
Apr 2019
#16
We need to win and there is little chance of expansion...I would not bet on AZ, NC or FL.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#23
Do not expect AZ to go blue. If it happens, great, but absolutely do not plan on it.
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#29
The rustbelt blue wall is a better bet...I think. what do you think about the Senate race?
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#37
Kelly will have a much harder time than people think, with his stance on the AWB
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#40
Assault Weapons Ban. He advocates regulating semiautomatic weapons as the same as
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#45
I understand the emotion, certainly; my brother's family shops at that store
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#82
Sure Demographics are changing but not in the states we need and not soon enough. We must defeat
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#32
I want Texas too..it will happen maybe this year... but we can't count on it. As for
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#34
I presented facts...Trumps only path to victory is in PA, WI and MI. He has sent people to PA
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#49
Yes, your opinion, that's my point. You hammer this as if it were a done deal.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#55
That's step 6 of your circular argument where we circle back to "here's a map."
marylandblue
May 2019
#116
I am expressing my opinion. Biden can rebuild the blue wall. I don't see other candidates
Demsrule86
May 2019
#130
I am not counting on it...a sitting senator was taken down in Florida and we always think we will
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#65
Sinema is a centrist, and her opponent ran such a horrible campaign that even some Republicans
LongtimeAZDem
Apr 2019
#85
certainly no more centrist than Biden and trump is much less acceptable than mcsally
AlexSFCA
May 2019
#105
Without Arizona that is 270 ...bare minimum. This brings home that we have to rebuild the blue wall.
Demsrule86
Apr 2019
#66
Rs used the same maps when they managed to disinfranchise & spoiler vote small percent.
Sunlei
May 2019
#118
I think Biden could take NC. Not sure any of the other candidates could do that.
mnhtnbb
May 2019
#122