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Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
20. Biden's name has been in continuous news cycles because of Trump.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 07:38 PM
Dec 2019

Trump knows two things.

1. Blatantly asking Ukraine to investigate a political opponent's son would elevate said opponent as a counter reaction in the opposing party mostly beneficial to said opponent during the primaries but likely lead to an impeachment against himself.

2. The Senate under McConnell will never ever convict Trump of said impeachment even though the House would most certainly call for it.

Trump believes one other thing.

A failed impeachment conviction against him would also have the potential to create a counter reaction with his own partizens to Trump's favor providing cover to his failed policies and abject lies from when he campaigned in 2016.


I do wonder though, why wasn't there three articles of impeachment?



(snip)

The prohibition against officers receiving a present or emolument is essentially an antibribery rule to prevent influence by a foreign power.[17] At the Virginia Ratifying Convention, Edmund Randolph, a delegate to the Constitutional Convention, identified the Clause as a key "provision against the danger ... of the president receiving emoluments from foreign powers."[18]

The Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel has opined that

[t]he language of the Emoluments Clause is both sweeping and unqualified. See 49 Comp. Gen. 819, 821 (1970) (the "drafters [of the Clause] intended the prohibition to have the broadest possible scope and applicability&quot . It prohibits those holding offices of profit or trust under the United States from accepting "any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever" from "any . . . foreign State" unless Congress consents. U.S. Const, art. I, § 9, cl. 8 (emphasis added). . . . The decision whether to permit exceptions that qualify the Clause's absolute prohibition or that temper any harshness it may cause is textually committed to Congress, which may give consent to the acceptance of offices or emoluments otherwise barred by the Clause.

—?[19]
The word "emolument" has a broad meaning. At the time of the Founding, it meant "profit," "benefit," or "advantage" of any kind.[20] Because of the "sweeping and unqualified" nature of the constitutional prohibition, and in light of the more sophisticated understanding of conflicts of interest that developed after the Richard Nixon presidency, most modern presidents have chosen to eliminate any risk of conflict of interest that may arise by choosing to vest their assets into a blind trust.[17] As the Office of Legal Counsel has advised, the Constitution is violated when the holder of an "Office of Profit or Trust", like the President,[21] receives money from a partnership or similar entity in which he has a stake, and the amount he receives is "a function of the amount paid to the [entity] by the foreign government."[19] This is because such a setup would allow the entity to "in effect be a conduit for that government," and so the government official would be exposed to possible "undue influence and corruption by [the] foreign government."[19] The Department of Defense has expressly held that "this same rationale applies to distributions from limited liability corporations."[22]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_of_Nobility_Clause




I believe the case against Trump would've been stronger.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Bernie's high water mark was 2016. dubyadiprecession Dec 2019 #1
Oh so true!! Bernie is really not doing that well Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #31
When Bernie starts beating Biden in the polls consistently, then he'll be celebrated for resilience. Skya Rhen Dec 2019 #2
The pundits don't want Bernie FiveGoodMen Dec 2019 #3
The pundits don't want Biden either. But he is still the front runner. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #6
Touch and totally true. emmaverybo Dec 2019 #26
I don't believe it's Bernie personally so much as the progressive policies that he champions Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #8
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. FiveGoodMen Dec 2019 #12
THIS!! BUT... Bernie knows what We The People want and he's gonna deliver, and then... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #14
Exactly and they know Bernie can't be bought. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #15
Damn right!! That's how you achieve justice in this country... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #18
+1 myohmy2 Dec 2019 #25
MFA is a huge loser in the GE redstateblues Dec 2019 #28
32 trillion... yes a really big loser Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #32
TRUE DAT!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #29
After he called Planned Parenthood 'part of the establishment' LanternWaste Dec 2019 #4
YeS iNdEeD... EvErYoNe Is ScArEd! NurseJackie Dec 2019 #10
Sanders completely cratered after 16. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #5
Yes!! See post #31 Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #33
It's a fatal career move for TV pundits to praise Bernie ritapria Dec 2019 #7
Funny; it hasn't hurt Tucker Carlson LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #9
OK, I'll praise Bernie for his 'Resilience'. Sloumeau Dec 2019 #11
amazing how much attention he gets from media. masses of attention nt msongs Dec 2019 #13
Lame complaint. Scurrilous Dec 2019 #16
Wow, you sure got flamed. rwsanders Dec 2019 #17
Pretty clearly boomer_wv Dec 2019 #19
Biden's name has been in continuous news cycles because of Trump. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #20
Whaa! Whaa!!! OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #21
This! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #34
sanders lost 50% of his support from the last cycle Gothmog Dec 2019 #22
Against an approximate 1600-2200% increase in primary political opponents. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #23
Compared to 2016, Bernie Sanders is doing significantly worse based poll numbers. Gothmog Dec 2019 #24
BIIIIIINNGGOOOOO!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #30
Bernie has alienated a lot of voters. Happy Hoosier Dec 2019 #37
sanders has pissed off Obama and Clinton supporters Gothmog Dec 2019 #38
Bernie is tough. Sorry to see supporters crying so much for him about unfairness. He's doing emmaverybo Dec 2019 #27
Sanders / Gabbard 2020 NBachers Dec 2019 #35
Oh great... calimary Dec 2019 #36
If that is the ticket, trump will win more than 45 states Gothmog Dec 2019 #39
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