Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumJoe Biden's Campaign Keeps Being Celebrated For Its 'Resilience,' But What About Bernie Sanders?
For several months now, there has been an endless discourse in our political coverage tied around the alleged resilience of Joe Bidens campaign. However, that same courtesy has curiously not been extended to Bernie Sanders, who throughout the entire campaign, has not only maintained top tier status but has seen his numbers rise in more recent polling. I chuckled at the recent Fox News digital headline Bernie Sanders snubbed on separate graphics by CNN, CBS News given the source, nevertheless, it speaks to a concern professed by the Sanders campaign itself as early as November that their campaign is being snubbed.
While the extent of the #BernieBlackout will remain up for debate, I will say when a new California state poll shows Bernie Sanders leading the field, perhaps include him in the headline and not Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden as the Los Angeles Times recently did in their original headline on the survey. Likewise, Ive seen numerous stories dooming the Sanders campaign in recent months, but not so many about more recent successes. Say what you will about Bernie Sanders (I surely have in years past), but the man has done pretty well thus far after a heart attack, no less but the coverage hasnt consistently reflected that.
Bernie remains a fundraising juggernaut, continues to attract sizable crowds at his events, recently secured the endorsements of three of some of the most visible progressive congresswomen in America, and again, is seeing a rise in several new polls. I dont write this to sound like some sort of stan, but make no mistake, if Pete Buttigieg enjoyed such huge support from young and Latinx voters the way Sanders does, his media fan club would turn up the volume on their Vanilla Latte Obama projections about him. And if the cash-strapped Biden campaign were pulling in Bernies campaign donations, we would never hear the end of it.
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Donald Trump is a demagogue with an entertainers delivery and a cable channel at his disposable up against entities in media, tech, and politics that are still ill-equipped to tackle him and his tactics. It is my belief that Democrats have to nominate someone who can inspire rather than merely try to placate. Perhaps Joe Biden can become that candidate, but as it stands now, hes not raising a lot of money, hes taking shots at younger politicians such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and he continues to occasionally bewilder when engaging in public speaking (thats actually his most resilient quality, to be fair).
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https://www.essence.com/op-ed/bernie-sanders-resillence/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dubyadiprecession
(5,711 posts)Hell never be as popular again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)Sanders got 40% of Democratic Primary vote in '16, he's running half that this time. Even if he got 100% of Warren's support, he'd still be behind his '16 vote total thehill.com
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)So he doesn't get the praise.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,578 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)ie: Medicare for All which threaten the corporate media's bottom lines, they have inherent financial conflicts of interest.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)They don't want any progressive.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)say hello to President Sanders!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)that's why We The People will elect President Sanders!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Then say hello to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As well as the Human Rights Campaign, any resilience he may allegedly have once held quickly became an irrelevant non-issue.
(maybe both organizations were just 'scared...', as that term certainly seems the trendy excuse-of-the-week, and I want in on some of the misplaced usage too!)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's lame, that's for sure. I think it's being used as "cover" to hide the fear that the BS campaign has hit its high-water mark. The "scared" accusation is a projection... accusing others of what one is actually feeling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)It's blatantly clear that people see much better choices than Sanders this time around. It's becoming hilarious how people keep trying to cling to hope by making absurd comparisons and arguments.
It's only fitting that this is how he goes out. He is running a campaign that has equated increasing the number of insured to a terrorist attack, surrounded himself with people who gave Trump an assist in the last election, and rails against some of our strongest institutions. The guy is simply out of control. His heart attack explains a lot of the earlier confusion in his campaign. Not sure if that is still it or it's more about the people he has put in place around him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)That is why they never praise Bernie ..In fact they rarely bring up his name . It is not a conspiracy ...They know who is writing their Big Fat checks.... They know that a President Bernie would not be good for the bottom line of their employers- at least in the short term .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)"Wow, Bernie, for a long time you were in 2nd place, then 3rd place, and now you are back in 2nd place! Great 'Resilience' Bernie!"
May his great resilience continue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,407 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)https://www.npr.org/2019/10/22/771865563/i-am-back-how-bernie-sanders-revolution-is-proving-resilient
Sanders looks more resilient than Warren
https://www.washingtonpost.com opinions 2019/11/04 sanders-looks-more-resliient-than-warren
He's also been described as tough, irrepressible, strong etc., all of which mean the same thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rwsanders
(2,603 posts)I'm going to contribute by the end of the year.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
boomer_wv
(673 posts)the difference is that Joe Biden has a wide lead on everyone else, essentially back to where it was in early summer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Trump knows two things.
1. Blatantly asking Ukraine to investigate a political opponent's son would elevate said opponent as a counter reaction in the opposing party mostly beneficial to said opponent during the primaries but likely lead to an impeachment against himself.
2. The Senate under McConnell will never ever convict Trump of said impeachment even though the House would most certainly call for it.
Trump believes one other thing.
A failed impeachment conviction against him would also have the potential to create a counter reaction with his own partizens to Trump's favor providing cover to his failed policies and abject lies from when he campaigned in 2016.
I do wonder though, why wasn't there three articles of impeachment?
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The prohibition against officers receiving a present or emolument is essentially an antibribery rule to prevent influence by a foreign power.[17] At the Virginia Ratifying Convention, Edmund Randolph, a delegate to the Constitutional Convention, identified the Clause as a key "provision against the danger ... of the president receiving emoluments from foreign powers."[18]
The Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel has opined that
[t]he language of the Emoluments Clause is both sweeping and unqualified. See 49 Comp. Gen. 819, 821 (1970) (the "drafters [of the Clause] intended the prohibition to have the broadest possible scope and applicability" . It prohibits those holding offices of profit or trust under the United States from accepting "any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever" from "any . . . foreign State" unless Congress consents. U.S. Const, art. I, § 9, cl. 8 (emphasis added). . . . The decision whether to permit exceptions that qualify the Clause's absolute prohibition or that temper any harshness it may cause is textually committed to Congress, which may give consent to the acceptance of offices or emoluments otherwise barred by the Clause.
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The word "emolument" has a broad meaning. At the time of the Founding, it meant "profit," "benefit," or "advantage" of any kind.[20] Because of the "sweeping and unqualified" nature of the constitutional prohibition, and in light of the more sophisticated understanding of conflicts of interest that developed after the Richard Nixon presidency, most modern presidents have chosen to eliminate any risk of conflict of interest that may arise by choosing to vest their assets into a blind trust.[17] As the Office of Legal Counsel has advised, the Constitution is violated when the holder of an "Office of Profit or Trust", like the President,[21] receives money from a partnership or similar entity in which he has a stake, and the amount he receives is "a function of the amount paid to the [entity] by the foreign government."[19] This is because such a setup would allow the entity to "in effect be a conduit for that government," and so the government official would be exposed to possible "undue influence and corruption by [the] foreign government."[19] The Department of Defense has expressly held that "this same rationale applies to distributions from limited liability corporations."[22]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_of_Nobility_Clause
I believe the case against Trump would've been stronger.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Biden is mentioned and not Bernie. Whaaa. Do you think it might be due to the fact that Bernie won't do interviews unless he approves questions? Or maybe that his campaign has called for a boycott?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,288 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Apples and oranges, running against 16-22+ candidates isn't remotely close to running against 1.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,288 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Happy Hoosier
(7,308 posts)People like me, for example. Ive been a long-time supporter of the Democratic party. When Bernie says establishment Democrats are the problem, hes attacking me. And frankly, he thumbs his nose at the party whenever he gets the chance. How in the world will he be able to lead a diverse party as nominee or President? He sure hasnt demonstrated that kind of leadership so far.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,288 posts)I am proud member of the Democratic Party and I am not happy with sanders.
I will support the nominee of the party but I seriously doubt that sanders will be the nominee of the party
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)fine and if the voters want him, he will do even better.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NBachers
(17,110 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(81,283 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,288 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden