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13. It was a terrible "idea".

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Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:05 AM

Nov 2019

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden WENT THERE! In the second hour of his interview with Don Lemon he said.... [View all] George II Nov 2019 OP

GOOD. betsuni Nov 2019 #1

It was a terrible "idea". Cha Nov 2019 #13

"I do a radio show every week. Over a million people hear it in about every state in the country. betsuni Nov 2019 #27

.. Cha Nov 2019 #49

The cumulative effects of decades of il-liberal undermining Hortensis Nov 2019 #71

Hello? DownriverDem Nov 2019 #72

He didn't make sure that people went to jail. Crimes but no time. mjvpi Nov 2019 #153

I think he decided saving lives more important, the ACA. betsuni Nov 2019 #160

I'm actually disappointed Biden would take that shot. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #108

It's about the 2020 election. betsuni Nov 2019 #110

I don't see how that relates to my post. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #111

You said such critiques, as Biden saying someone on stage said the President should be primaried, betsuni Nov 2019 #112

re: "Biden's comment was about the 2020 election" thesquanderer Nov 2019 #118

Sanders said this in 2018 at the 50th anniversary of MLK's assassination: betsuni Nov 2019 #119

That 2018 statement is, again, not what Biden was referencing in the OP's quote. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #122

Agree: sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #176

Sanders has been relentlessly taking shots at Biden for weeks. This is mild compared to his shots. George II Nov 2019 #115

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win Gothmog Nov 2019 #175

Out of all our candidates, Sanders is second only to Biden in how well he polls against Trump. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #178

I have seen a great deal of the oppo that is out there on sanders Gothmog Nov 2019 #179

Obama did not need to be pulled left treestar Nov 2019 #180

Nobody cares. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #2

Obviously some people do. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #3

We have another Person on stage ritapria Nov 2019 #4

No we don't. George II Nov 2019 #10

So a vote for the Iraq war means they didn't want the Iraq war to happen? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #15

Read HRC's speech at the time she voted for the resolution. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #35

Sanders voted for every vote in the Iraq war but one. His conviction was light, if he was only Jewls2 Nov 2019 #55

The ONE he voted against was the ONE that specifically authorized sending troops. (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2019 #81

IF certain conditions are met. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #105

Right. But the ones he DID vote for did NOT authorize the invasion. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #107

What is disingenuous is having this conversation about the vote 17 yrs later Jewls2 Nov 2019 #141

I'm not the one who brought it up. (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2019 #146

Does anyone remember Hans Blix? oasis Nov 2019 #66

Biden didn't vote for the war, he voted for the AUMF which had conditions attached to it. George II Nov 2019 #78

Though he and Hillary admit the vote was a mistake. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #84

Again George Bush formulated that policy. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #94

Yes we do melman Nov 2019 #20

Interesting, I don't see the word "war" anywhere in that quote above. George II Nov 2019 #76

lol melman Nov 2019 #93

My comment has nothing to do to find "that", it has to do with something else, "and you know it." George II Nov 2019 #95

Some folks are bound and determined to make sure NO Democratic politician Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #126

Deflection ... Look!! Squirrel !!!! n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #61

Please do us all a favor DownriverDem Nov 2019 #75

Some people just won't, they'll bring up that one vote until they breathe their last breath. George II Nov 2019 #85

This nobody does. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #5

Oh, are you speaking for everybody? Cha Nov 2019 #6

I think probably the Democratic base does. That is why that one person will Jewls2 Nov 2019 #7

That person carried 22 states 4 years ago, 12 million votes as I recall ritapria Nov 2019 #16

LOL BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #19

Caucus states and open primary. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #21

They don't count! Let's undo all caucuses and open primaries! Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #30

It certainly tells a story. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #41

I am so glad there are far fewer caucuses this cycle Gothmog Nov 2019 #73

so many who went on to lose in the general...get rid of caucuses and open primaries...let Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #98

Like Hillary? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #109

She won the Nevada primary...but plenty of folks who talked shit about Hillary...Republicans of Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #137

... PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #62

I'm not going to get drawn into a discussion of the previous primary, as you're doing... George II Nov 2019 #74

Oh, I think he already has...but unless Warren can expand her base to include AA voters, Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #96

What does Warren have to do with anything I said? Jewls2 Nov 2019 #106

I do, that precludes "nobody". George II Nov 2019 #9

Well I stand corrected. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #14

I do. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #22

I care. A great deal. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #23

democrats care nt msongs Nov 2019 #25

you got that wrong. Cha Nov 2019 #50

There are a large number of real Drmocrats who respect President Obama Gothmog Nov 2019 #101

Hmm.. 46 recs as of now.. so about 8x as many care than on the average BS BS. Amimnoch Nov 2019 #152

Agree. But if they do, they better get over it in November 2020... SMC22307 Nov 2019 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author dweller Nov 2019 #8

Joe Biden actually did primary Obama. Is that who you mean? JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #11

Hello! that was Before Obama was President. Cha Nov 2019 #12

I did not say he was. JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #17

Biden and Obama were in the same Primary & Cha Nov 2019 #18

It really is amazing isn't it? BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #26

George ******* Orwell & The Twilight Cha Nov 2019 #33

And I though Kelly-Anne Conway couldn't be topped n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #63

And he chose Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State. George II Nov 2019 #67

Exactly.. President Obama's best rivals! Cha Nov 2019 #113

Ah, but you do not "know" that. You are guessing that HRC and Biden made Obama stronger. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #24

Biden specifically mentioned "the President". George II Nov 2019 #80

I wonder if you two are disagreeing about the meaning of the word bluedye33139 Nov 2019 #151

Give Joe a break ritapria Nov 2019 #28

Then what happened? BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #29

Then he lost his second attempt at running for president. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #31

Yeah he did. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #32

He never became president. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #34

Not yet anyway BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #40

Well it's looking like he probably won't. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #42

I don't get the sense you are looking forward to it very much should it occur. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #43

I think it would be neat. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #44

.. Cha Nov 2019 #36

Then Joe Biden became Vice President of the United States of America Cha Nov 2019 #38

Biden got to be Veep, and Bernie went back to being the Independent gadfly from Vermont Hekate Nov 2019 #48

The difference is Bernie won 22 primaries and caucuses on his own accord. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #52

Joe Biden was a valued and trusted Vice President Cha Nov 2019 #53

Good lord 'n' butter. BS did not win the overall primary battle, Hillary did. She got more votes ... Hekate Nov 2019 #56

Sure. But the difference between Joe and Bernie is Joe lost every primary he ever competed for. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #57

The difference betweet BS and Biden is Cha Nov 2019 #58

You forgot PatSeg Nov 2019 #77

Joe Biden has been a Life Long Democrat! Cha Nov 2019 #114

You're welcome! PatSeg Nov 2019 #142

Not to refight the 2016 primary (as you are doing) but BS won only 2 closed Democratic primaries.... George II Nov 2019 #139

Biden was in the 2016 primary? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #143

Yeah, Joe Biden got to be a valued Veep and garner 8 years Cha Nov 2019 #54

+1, he became Obama's Vice President R B Garr Nov 2019 #69

And, then Obama chose him to be his VP candidate.. Cha Nov 2019 #37

Then there's that inconsequential Medal of Freedom LakeArenal Nov 2019 #92

Prescisely, LakeArenal! Biden wasn't just a "VP" to Cha Nov 2019 #116

Which was both high praise and a rational assessment of Obama's political gifts... Hekate Nov 2019 #46

He never primaried PRESIDENT Obama. Here are the candidates that ultimately primaried Obama: George II Nov 2019 #68

Who is the "he" referenced here? tia, las nt LAS14 Nov 2019 #138

That's the same stupid attempt of an argument Bernie tried Hav Nov 2019 #83

Devils advocate for a moment- mahina Nov 2019 #39

Indeed he did. Also, it was an exceptional interview. We gained a real respect for Don Lemon... Hekate Nov 2019 #45

Good to hear that from you, Hekate.. I've always Cha Nov 2019 #47

I discovered Lemon about three years ago, in my mind the absolute best CNN or MSNBC.... George II Nov 2019 #79

I watch and tape his show every night...love Lemon. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #99

This was a great interview Gothmog Nov 2019 #51

trump attacking Democracy duforsure Nov 2019 #59

Most POC of age at the time remember PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #60

It is despicable how some wanted to primary Barack Obama nt NYMinute Nov 2019 #64

So glad to hear this! mcar Nov 2019 #65

That was a great interview of Vice President Biden Gothmog Nov 2019 #70

that is standard left ideology. *all power should be under scrutiny all the time* Kurt V. Nov 2019 #82

Second hour? Darn it, I missed it. I thought Don had ecstatic Nov 2019 #86

I thought so too, but I watch him anyway. Then a little bit into the second hour he ran... George II Nov 2019 #87

Lemon broke the interview into four segments and ran one in second hour Gothmog Nov 2019 #90

Is Don Lemon doing 2 hour interviews with all the candidates? Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #88

It was one interview that CNN broke into four segments Gothmog Nov 2019 #91

Obama tells Democrats worried about the primary field to 'chill out' Gothmog Nov 2019 #89

"we have someone on the stage who said the President should be primaried" NurseJackie Nov 2019 #97

From the Thom Hartman show Gothmog Nov 2019 #104

yeah, BS owns that. Cha Nov 2019 #117

That's when I lost respect, too, Jackie. Cha Nov 2019 #121

It was treacherous. NurseJackie Nov 2019 #133

yes.. typical. Cha Nov 2019 #134

+++++, exactly what I was thinking. R B Garr Nov 2019 #140

Here is link to interview Gothmog Nov 2019 #100

Thanks. I was looking for it earlier. George II Nov 2019 #102

LOL Joe. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #103

BS owns this.. why didn't BS primary President Obama Cha Nov 2019 #120

Because it was rhetorical. Gasp. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #123

Nah.. BS made it clear.. why didn't BS put Cha Nov 2019 #124

I don't think you listened to the interview where he made that remark. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #125

So many people know this.. Joe Biden knows it.. Cha Nov 2019 #127

You're funny, cha. Sure, Bernie owns it. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #128

The Obama Campaign Remembers 2012 Very Differently Than Bernie Sanders Cha Nov 2019 #129

Anonymous sources on Buzzfeed during a campaign? aikoaiko Nov 2019 #130

".. the last word.."? Can BS & his supporters take "criticism" Cha Dec 2019 #190

Wanting to primary Obama is far more than criticism Gothmog Dec 2019 #191

Exactly, Goth.. Thank You! Cha Dec 2019 #192

BS needs to act like it then. Cha Nov 2019 #187

There are a good number of Obama supporters who will not support sanders in the primary Gothmog Nov 2019 #131

And thats fine with me. I just want Bernie to stay in until the convention aikoaiko Nov 2019 #132

I was at the convention in Philadelphia and sanders delegates hurt his campaign Gothmog Nov 2019 #148

Maybe so, but he'll undoubtedly still be a speaker at the convention. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #150

I will not forgive or forget the booing of JOHN Lewis, Elijah Cummings and Stacy Abrams Gothmog Nov 2019 #154

I don't think anyone asked you to forgive or forget. Its not required of you. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #155

I was at the convention and I saw the conduct of sanders and his delegates Gothmog Nov 2019 #156

Exactly, and making lame excuses to justify the booing of these Civil Rights leaders is pathetic still_one Nov 2019 #159

What was the reason for booing? betsuni Nov 2019 #161

Its all just politics. Politicians throw shade to help their friends, some people throw it back. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #162

What shade? betsuni Nov 2019 #164

You're funny. If you really are interested, just Google around a bit. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #165

Google what? betsuni Nov 2019 #168

he told me I was "funny", too.. Cha Nov 2019 #166

The "shade" is that they think Lewis was somehow saying Sanders lied betsuni Nov 2019 #167

Exactly, betsuni.. too damn Cha Nov 2019 #169

As if John Lewis was Mariah Carey: "I don't know her." betsuni Nov 2019 #170

Right.. Speaking of "advocates" who are too damn paranoid.. Cha Nov 2019 #171

Why were Delores Huerta, Stacy Abrams and Elijah Cummings booed? Gothmog Nov 2019 #172

There ya go! Cha Nov 2019 #177

Bernie Supporters Heckle Elijah Cummings at DNC Gothmog Nov 2019 #182

Sure, it was about policy, specifically the TPP. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #183

I am sad that anyone thinks that booing Congressman Elijah Cummings was proper Gothmog Nov 2019 #184

Either way, I'm glad Bernie is in the race. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #185

I am very glad that sanders will NOT be the nominee of the Democratic Party Gothmog Nov 2019 #188

Then Bernie is making us both happy. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #189

"Ironically, Cummings ... said he agreed with the protesters and consistently opposed trade betsuni Nov 2019 #186

They can take it. NONE of us will forgive him for Trump Hortensis Nov 2019 #181

No it wasn't uponit7771 Nov 2019 #173

Who ran against Obama in the 2012 primaries? Everyone seems to know, but not me. LAS14 Nov 2019 #135

I listed them all in my post #68. No one of any significance. George II Nov 2019 #136

Obama and Biden were trying to cut Social Security. Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #144

Obama didn't want to cut Social Security. It's as simple as that. George II Nov 2019 #147

Obama and Biden wanted to trade Social Security cuts Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #149

How dare he spread that misinformation. Cha Nov 2019 #158

No they weren't.. that's a damn myth! Quit Cha Nov 2019 #157

K&R Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #145

This is interesting Gothmog Nov 2019 #174