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Demsrule86

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67. I agree with you.

Reply to Desert grandma (Reply #57)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:23 PM

Apr 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Two maps showing what happens if we take WI, MI and PA. Go to the website make your own maps. [View all] Demsrule86 Apr 2019 OP

Good info. It seems selecting a VP that would be popular in those states would help as well. jalan48 Apr 2019 #1

I think Biden would be best as the presidential candidate ...he will take PA for sure...born there. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #3

I kinda thought the VP was going to be a woman this time around. jalan48 Apr 2019 #5

It is risky and I don't see a woman who adds to the ticket...in terms of giving us another state. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #8

wow qazplm135 Apr 2019 #11

It is not sexist at all...and maybe Obama would have won the rustbelt without Biden but Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #18

then you are blind qazplm135 Apr 2019 #27

Show me how they win... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #30

you're the one who made the original claim qazplm135 Apr 2019 #33

I showed you the map...talked about georgraphyand but you can't show me because none can win the Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36

Lol qazplm135 Apr 2019 #42

Tell me how you see these candidates stopping Trump in the midwest...rebuilding the blue wall. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #50

ummmm... qazplm135 Apr 2019 #61

He had about the same popularity as now...not that much different. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #64

sigh qazplm135 Apr 2019 #70

The positions Harris has taken will allow the right to brand her as left...unfairly Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #71

This is just blind opinion qazplm135 Apr 2019 #74

A Biden/Ryan ticket is a disaster waiting to happen for Joe Celerity Apr 2019 #43

We need to balance the ticket so I don't see the benefit for Klobachar or Ryan as VP... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #51

This may be crazy but how about Michelle Obama is she would do it...I know I know...probably not Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #52

she has pretty much (not a faux stance, unfortunately IMHO) really slammed the door on ever running Celerity Apr 2019 #60

Yeah I agree with you. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #68

The Obamas have moved on.They're living the high life, having fun, producing films.... Honeycombe8 May 2019 #99

That's good but I miss them. Demsrule86 May 2019 #101

oh yeah that is all they are doing now days lunasun May 2019 #132

She said no, believe her. She is very, very busy with Obama Foundation work. Sunlei May 2019 #119

If you looked at the map, you would realize the importance of those few lunchbucket states. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #72

here we go again with the AOC-attacked Pelosi bullshit, give it a rest please Celerity Apr 2019 #73

It has never been debunked...it is factual. She faced a challenge on the right and left. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #75

it was debunked on so many threads here Celerity May 2019 #124

Time will tell. Demsrule86 May 2019 #134

Here is what happens in the "rust belt" now AND in 2016 Sunlei May 2019 #120

But Biden & Kaine were from different geographical areas... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #93

That may not be true anymore anyway treestar May 2019 #114

Klobuchar is from that area. She would seem to be the best fit. jalan48 Apr 2019 #15

She would be the only one who might help the ticket...Minnesetoa is different than the states Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #19

That's what I was thinking. I like her, too. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #95

I would think she would help more in those states than Harris. Harris will do well in the South but jalan48 May 2019 #103

" Can a woman be elected Vice president or President? I am not sure." ?? pangaia Apr 2019 #25

Good reminder. Demit Apr 2019 #54

And I want a woman president. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #76

Being born there is no guarentee Merlot Apr 2019 #10

Big difference...Tennessee was gone by the time he ran for president for us...the blue wall is not Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #14

The bad guys will do that anyway Sugarcoated Apr 2019 #63

I lived in Matamoras PA some years ago. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #77

Not sure where that is Sugarcoated Apr 2019 #78

60 miles or so from New York City..,Delaware water gap...tri-state area. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #92

so your argument is that Biden alone can win those three states?? qazplm135 Apr 2019 #2

What candidates who are currently running will rebuild the blue wall Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #6

lol qazplm135 Apr 2019 #9

You need Geography to rebuild the blue wall...and Kamala is not moderate enough...Beto is Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #12

Democrats might do well to nominate Julian Castro as VP Desert grandma Apr 2019 #57

I agree with you. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #67

Mayor Pete is a great guy but will not win in the rustbelt. He won a very blue city in Indiana. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #13

How do you know this a year out? leftofcool Apr 2019 #84

I live in the rustbelt. And I have read some of what he said about manufacturing. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #86

You mean the truth about automation? leftofcool Apr 2019 #87

It is a factor but not now ...mostly a convenient excuse... Delphi sent presses Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #89

It's clear you never intended to vote for anybody but Biden. marylandblue May 2019 #137

What did he say? marylandblue Apr 2019 #90

That job losses are due to robotics... and some jobs are lost that way, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #91

I suppose telling the truth has it's disadvantages leftofcool Apr 2019 #94

But it is not true,..job losses here are due to moving jobs overseas, Demsrule86 May 2019 #97

Correct leftofcool May 2019 #106

The jobs have to come back and they could with proper support for Demsrule86 May 2019 #108

And what did Biden say about this? Has he explained his vote on NAFTA? marylandblue May 2019 #96

Yes he has. And more recently has a great record on labor. He would never Demsrule86 May 2019 #109

I looked into what Pete said. He never said we don't need manufacturing jobs marylandblue May 2019 #113

He said we lost 6 jobs to robotics for every 1 job to globalism... Demsrule86 May 2019 #133

Is he wrong? And he has not taken a position on trade agreements marylandblue May 2019 #135

Agreed leftofcool Apr 2019 #83

Another path is to win Fla and either AZ or NC Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #4

All the rustbelt states (MI, WI and PA) have Democratic governors elected or reelectd in 18 Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #7

We are better off widening the map. StevieM Apr 2019 #17

It is called a blue wall...it saves us from defeat. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21

We did win Arizona in 1996. And we would have won it in 2016 had it not been for Comey. StevieM Apr 2019 #26

96? Interestiing...Clinton's second term...That was 23 years ago...and I have no idea why you think Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #31

I assume you meant to say in 16. StevieM Apr 2019 #39

I did mean 16. Thanks for that...but a longtime DUer says that he would not count on Arizona. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #48

winning rustbelt would not only destroy trump AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #56

That would be awesome. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #69

Let's not rehash the 2016 election. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #98

Trump is looking to win in the same three states as in 16... Demsrule86 May 2019 #110

I was reminding you.... Honeycombe8 May 2019 #115

Trump approval at 45% N.C., 44% Fla, 43% AZ, Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #20

A Southernnor would round out the ticket...agree with everything you said. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #22

I think NC is a possibility with Biden. Not sure about any of the other candidates. mnhtnbb May 2019 #123

This is why we need someone that can expand the map rather than just fighting to keep the old one. Renew Deal Apr 2019 #16

We need to win and there is little chance of expansion...I would not bet on AZ, NC or FL. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #23

Year-by-year the demographics are changing in favour of Democrats VMA131Marine Apr 2019 #28

Do not expect AZ to go blue. If it happens, great, but absolutely do not plan on it. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #29

The rustbelt blue wall is a better bet...I think. what do you think about the Senate race? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #37

Kelly will have a much harder time than people think, with his stance on the AWB LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #40

AWB? Cha Apr 2019 #44

Assault Weapons Ban. He advocates regulating semiautomatic weapons as the same as LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #45

Oh yeah.. Thank You.. Cha Apr 2019 #46

I love the guy, but I don't consider that sensible LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #47

Given what happened to his wife, maybe some will understand. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #80

I understand the emotion, certainly; my brother's family shops at that store LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #82

Yeah...she will never fully recover...his wife I mean. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #88

Sorry to hear that. Baby steps folks, we get nothing without the Senate. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #79

Agreed LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #102

Sure Demographics are changing but not in the states we need and not soon enough. We must defeat Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #32

I can't wait for the day we take Texas from that grubby little hands tymorial Apr 2019 #24

I want Texas too..it will happen maybe this year... but we can't count on it. As for Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #34

Oh I dont disagree in regards to the electoral college. tymorial Apr 2019 #35

Very true. They would have little chance, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #81

TEXAS will be MORE blue !!!! trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #38

Your entire argument is. marylandblue Apr 2019 #41

I presented facts...Trumps only path to victory is in PA, WI and MI. He has sent people to PA Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #49

Yes, your opinion, that's my point. You hammer this as if it were a done deal. marylandblue Apr 2019 #55

Where else can Trump win? Demsrule86 May 2019 #111

That's step 6 of your circular argument where we circle back to "here's a map." marylandblue May 2019 #116

You didn't answer the question. Demsrule86 May 2019 #131

What for? All you do is look at a map and say you don't see it. marylandblue May 2019 #136

Don't forget the results of polls being taken nine months before the primaries! Demit Apr 2019 #58

They hint at what will come. Demsrule86 May 2019 #112

You are doing much more than "hinting." marylandblue May 2019 #117

I am expressing my opinion. Biden can rebuild the blue wall. I don't see other candidates Demsrule86 May 2019 #130

How he campaigns will determine what comes. Demit May 2019 #121

I think we should be able to win AZ AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #53

I am not counting on it...a sitting senator was taken down in Florida and we always think we will Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #65

Sinema is a centrist, and her opponent ran such a horrible campaign that even some Republicans LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #85

certainly no more centrist than Biden and trump is much less acceptable than mcsally AlexSFCA May 2019 #105

I hope so. Demsrule86 May 2019 #129

here's 2016 with JUST Texas flipped: Amimnoch Apr 2019 #59

Um That's Texas AND Arizona? crazytown Apr 2019 #62

Without Arizona that is 270 ...bare minimum. This brings home that we have to rebuild the blue wall. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #66

Thanks. edited and fixed. Amimnoch May 2019 #107

None of the above Bayard May 2019 #100

That is a good point. VPS don't have to be current candidates. Demsrule86 May 2019 #125

Last I saw we were losing NV. On MI WI and PA we Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #104

It is our only shot. Demsrule86 May 2019 #126

Rs used the same maps when they managed to disinfranchise & spoiler vote small percent. Sunlei May 2019 #118

No doubt, but it is how they win. How else can we win? Demsrule86 May 2019 #127

I think Biden could take NC. Not sure any of the other candidates could do that. mnhtnbb May 2019 #122

That would be great. Demsrule86 May 2019 #128