2016 Postmortem

Dem2

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87. I'm still not seeing it

Thu Nov 12, 2015, 09:36 PM

Nov 2015

It may be true that Hillary has more money and more supporters in high places (access to the media) to go on TV and be critical of Bernie, but I don't believe this is having much effect on Bernie - if anything I believe it might help him as people like myself, and I would guess many other Democrats, sympathize with the underdog. If I want to know Hillary's opinion, I listen to Hillary, if I want to know Bernie's opinion, I listen to Bernie. Just as I tire of lame or unfair arguments here, the same applies with talking trolls on TV.

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Hey Democrats, Bernie isn't the enemy, why not save the smears and attacks for the REAL Enemy? [View all] sabrina 1 Nov 2015 OP

What "smear" are you referring to? nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #1

Swift boating, where's waldo, White supremacist, left Brooklyn to flee black people AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #41

What are you babbling about? nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #55

Are you calling attention to babbling? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #66

Why, yes.... daleanime Nov 2015 #90

Some questions are better ignored than answered. merrily Nov 2015 #77

check the hillary group. every third line. roguevalley Nov 2015 #115

Because they are afraid that offered a real progressive vs a DINO the choice is so clear. Vincardog Nov 2015 #2

Sometimes I get the impression that since our party was taken over by the Third Way sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #4

The so called "Leadrship" does. Vincardog Nov 2015 #5

That's for sure. But they seem to have a bit of a following among the rank and file these days. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #7

I think there are a of of paid shills posting and misrepresenting the popular opinion. Vincardog Nov 2015 #12

True. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #29

Just FYI: MineralMan Nov 2015 #120

Show me a national poll by a reliable pollster in May 2016 and whichever of the two randys1 Nov 2015 #32

BS beats the pugs better than HRC in the polls I have seen Vincardog Nov 2015 #36

If that is still the case next May or whenever it is, then great. I am all for it. randys1 Nov 2015 #39

check this link Vincardog Nov 2015 #45

I still think much of the country doesnt really know who he is, so while that is randys1 Nov 2015 #46

How do you explain the poll results then? Was the poll conducted in France? merrily Nov 2015 #83

*chortle nt artislife Nov 2015 #111

No need for links. Randys1 has longed claimed to be a supporter of, and worker for, Bernie Sanders. merrily Nov 2015 #81

Agreed, and neither is Hillary. Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #3

"Enemy" is a strong word, but Hillary is definitely not my friend. Maedhros Nov 2015 #129

Why don't you do as the OP suggested Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #131

Her record suggests otherwise. Maedhros Nov 2015 #132

Because internal polling is completely opposite of what the Corporate Owned pollster polls show? in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #6

That's my theory also, but not a reason for democratic voters to support any of it imo. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #10

Never said that he was Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #8

I'm not in love with any candidate. I'm interested only in where they stand on the issues. And sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #11

So glad to hear you say this : randys1 Nov 2015 #37

Since I just found out you are a Bernie supporter, I'm sure you're doing what I am doing sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #124

No shit! whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #9

We are definitely helping our candidate, that's why he got this far, amazing really, how successful sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #14

Because to some he is the real enemy. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #13

I think you may be right. He is the enemy of those who want to control our government. But sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #16

The back and forth here goes way back, and has very little to with current politics. MerryBlooms Nov 2015 #43

Wow. I never noticed that. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #44

My new mantra: MerryBlooms Nov 2015 #47

LMAO! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #48

Ditto, kid. :) MerryBlooms Nov 2015 #50

I noticed. I think many of us did! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #108

From the people who claim Hillary is the enemy!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #15

Who are those people? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #17

You. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #19

Then you won't have a problem providing some links to where I, (I'm just one person btw) stated sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #20

Sorry, I was wrong, you love Hillary ... think she's great. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #22

LOL. boston bean Nov 2015 #28

'Love'? What does love have to do with politicians we don't know personally? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #30

That's really the response? No link or anything. You are the sadest troll ive seen in awhile litlbilly Nov 2015 #62

Will you vote for Hillary if she is the nominee? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #38

Why does anyone have to tell you that? tularetom Nov 2015 #56

Because someone that doesn't see Hillary as the enemy can easily answer that. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #57

I seriously think that's rude as hell to ask. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #71

Loyalty Oaths. A detestable practice. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #95

So you will be talking to some of your fellow Bernie Supporters about this...right? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #122

You are a faceless person using a fake name on an online forum tularetom Nov 2015 #98

You should know by now Sabrina doesn't fall for your bait. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #75

Lol, thanks. Since Bernie is going to win I know who I will be supporting. You're right, my mom sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #93

Loyalty oath! Everyone...Drink! artislife Nov 2015 #114

Read your own OPs. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #89

There you go. I didn't think you could, but I thought I'd ask anyhow. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #91

the REAL enemy is Sanders Supporters. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #18

That Talking Point was one of the funniest actually. I hope they didn't pay too much for it! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #21

Not just purple, purple gingham! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #26

And fedoras! Scootaloo Nov 2015 #105

almost there...the real enemy to the Sanders campaign are his supporters n/t Sheepshank Nov 2015 #123

warrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghlllllllbbllllll Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #133

Hey Bernistas! Hillary isn't the enemy. Why not save the smears for the real enemy? DanTex Nov 2015 #23

No paid for smears coming from Bernie's campaign. Do you support Super Pacs planting smears iin sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #31

Conspiracy! DanTex Nov 2015 #34

Brock, caught red handed planting smears in the media, runs Hillary's Super Pac which is coordinated sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #58

the real enemy is sanders supporters and "brogressives", right? Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #64

Not at all. Some of them are childish and noisy, but most will vote for Hillary in the general. DanTex Nov 2015 #67

Childish and noisy like spending all day writing stupid ad hominem attacks against people on your Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #80

Yes, the people who bash Hillary all day really need to find something better to do. DanTex Nov 2015 #84

Again, she's the candidate. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #97

Oh, I think I get the gist of that... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #69

Of course, flattery! You are so perceptive! DanTex Nov 2015 #70

I perceive you'll tell us all who the real enemy is... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #73

Pot meet kettle gaspee Nov 2015 #24

Anyone here ever call you a White Supremacist because you support Hillary? Call HER the same thing? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #35

From a fairly neutral observer gaspee Nov 2015 #40

Just because Hillary supporters are outnumbered here, doesn't make their behavior acceptable. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #52

You didn't answer my question, but never mind. I see it the exact opposite. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #99

The white supremisist comments aren't gaspee Nov 2015 #42

Baloney. With threads like "Sanders' biggest problem is his supporters"? Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #59

No, they were directed at Bernie and his supporters. Which totally discredited everything else they sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #100

Not specifically but I have seen treestar Nov 2015 #88

Well it definitel is immoral and unprincipled to call a Senator with a record like Sanders' a White sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #102

I was not making that point treestar Nov 2015 #118

You first when it comes to Hillary. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #25

you mean like these .. oh wait these are aimed at hillary saturnsring Nov 2015 #27

Pfft. That's nothing. You guys are still the ones to beat. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #33

Thanks! It's always fun to see a new blue (unread) link in your expansive list. More reading to do! JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #106

I see one name there. And it isn't mine. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #101

Who, in your opinion, is the REAL ENEMY, sabrina?...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #49

Hey Sid, how do you like that election in Canada booting the neocon puppet out of office finally? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #104

I almost forgot, you asked a queston! I'll let this soldier speak for me! Because she does! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #112

Yeah, that's not an answer. That's a dodge...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #116

That is my answer. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #125

Veterans and Military Families for Hillary and i will let thes soldier speak for me. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #117

They can't stop themselves, it's what they are and... 99Forever Nov 2015 #51

But he is a white guy from Vermont Kalidurga Nov 2015 #53

That's ENEMY TERRITORY! Or so we are told right here on DU .... sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #61

I know I read a post Kalidurga Nov 2015 #63

I have seen several of those. senz Nov 2015 #109

I didn't see that one. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #113

Because it's a primary. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #54

Well, for Hillary it has been polite. For Bernie and his supporters it has been non stop attacks sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #65

I agree. His campaign doesn't deserve smears...only snark. tritsofme Nov 2015 #60

I agree Dem2 Nov 2015 #68

A paid-for smear campaign and people on the internet posting facts about someone's record sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #74

I am not familar with this so-called "smear" campaign Dem2 Nov 2015 #79

Again, it is NOT both sides! But that's what they do when they are caught. As they were. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #85

I'm still not seeing it Dem2 Nov 2015 #87

What are you not seeing, maybe I can help you ... sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #96

. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #72

The vitriol form the Sanders supports is far worse Tarc Nov 2015 #76

No, it isn't. What has come from Hillary supporters from the beginning is some of the worst I have sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #107

Delusional whackjobbery Tarc Nov 2015 #127

Sanders has soared from 3% just months ago, to now over 35% among DEMS alone. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #128

So an F-- to a D+ ? Tarc Nov 2015 #130

Probably not that many Democrats hate Bernie. HassleCat Nov 2015 #78

Why have we had 50,000+ threads attacking Clinton BainsBane Nov 2015 #82

Have to practice.... daleanime Nov 2015 #86

when and if bernie fails to be elected it will be his fault no one else. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #92

If Hillary fails to be elected it will be for the same reasons she failed last time. Same kind of sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #94

oh you know how it will be treestar Nov 2015 #119

I like and respect Bernie redstateblues Nov 2015 #103

Anyone who threatens to get between Gollum and her "precious" is the enemy. senz Nov 2015 #110

If this OP is some sort of Olive Branch Sheepshank Nov 2015 #121

More War on Christmas!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #126