Hey Democrats, Bernie isn't the enemy, why not save the smears and attacks for the REAL Enemy?

[sabrina 1]

Just wondering!

[Cali_Democrat]

1. What "smear" are you referring to? nt

[AgingAmerican]

41. Swift boating, where's waldo, White supremacist, left Brooklyn to flee black people

And a myriad of others. We can post the full list if you wish, but you already know all of this.

[Cali_Democrat]

55. What are you babbling about? nt

[MrMickeysMom]

66. Are you calling attention to babbling?

[daleanime]

90. Why, yes....

I do believe that they are....

[merrily]

77. Some questions are better ignored than answered.

Especially when the questioner has at least as much reason to know the answer as you do. JMO

[roguevalley]

115. check the hillary group. every third line.

[Vincardog]

2. Because they are afraid that offered a real progressive vs a DINO the choice is so clear.

[sabrina 1]

4. Sometimes I get the impression that since our party was taken over by the Third Way

our party despises its own membership MORE than they do the Right!

[Vincardog]

5. The so called "Leadrship" does.

[sabrina 1]

7. That's for sure. But they seem to have a bit of a following among the rank and file these days.

[Vincardog]

12. I think there are a of of paid shills posting and misrepresenting the popular opinion.

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[sabrina 1]

29. True.

[MineralMan]

120. Just FYI:

http://grammarist.com/spelling/populace-populous/

Populus is a plant genus that includes poplar, aspen and cottonwood trees.

[randys1]

32. Show me a national poll by a reliable pollster in May 2016 and whichever of the two

it shows as beating the terrorists, uh I mean repubs, is who i want.

[Vincardog]

36. BS beats the pugs better than HRC in the polls I have seen

[randys1]

39. If that is still the case next May or whenever it is, then great. I am all for it.

[Vincardog]

45. check this link

[link:http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/259812-in-new-shock-poll-sanders-has-landslides-over-both|

[randys1]

46. I still think much of the country doesnt really know who he is, so while that is

nice to see, I wont believe it until I am convinced more know who he is.

By next summer they will

[merrily]

83. How do you explain the poll results then? Was the poll conducted in France?

There you go again, sounding like any solid Sanders supporter would when reacting to this poll!

[artislife]

111. *chortle nt

[merrily]

81. No need for links. Randys1 has longed claimed to be a supporter of, and worker for, Bernie Sanders.

[Nonhlanhla]

3. Agreed, and neither is Hillary.

I see a lot of smearing of Hillary Clinton on this site. Neither Bernie nor Hillary is the enemy. The scary clowns are.

As someone who does not have a strong preference for the primaries (and whose primary is not until the end of April, when it will hardly matter anymore), I feel more focused on the general, and the smearing of our stellar candidates worry me.

[Maedhros]

129. "Enemy" is a strong word, but Hillary is definitely not my friend.

She and her followers are my political opponents, because they stand against progressive values - most notably, they condone elective war for profit, which I cannot abide.

[Nonhlanhla]

131. Why don't you do as the OP suggested

...and leave the smears for the real enemy?

Hillary does not condone war for profit. And she does not stand against progressive values.

[Maedhros]

132. Her record suggests otherwise.

Hillary is the exemplar for the Third Way - mollify the low-information base with half- and quarter-measures, while advancing the corporate agenda. All the excuses in the world won't change that fact.

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. Because internal polling is completely opposite of what the Corporate Owned pollster polls show?

Just a guess.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[sabrina 1]

10. That's my theory also, but not a reason for democratic voters to support any of it imo.

[Chitown Kev]

8. Never said that he was

Sorry that I'm not in love with him, though.

[sabrina 1]

11. I'm not in love with any candidate. I'm interested only in where they stand on the issues. And

how consistent they have been throughout their careers.

Do we need to fall in love, in your opinion, in order to choose a candidate?

What a strange thing to say!

[randys1]

37. So glad to hear you say this :

I'm not in love with any candidate. I'm interested only in where they stand on the issues.

Because next November, if the candidates are Hillary and fill in the blank, I know who you will be voting for, assuming you are consistent, same person I will be.



p.s. I just won the internet

[sabrina 1]

124. Since I just found out you are a Bernie supporter, I'm sure you're doing what I am doing

making sure Bernie will be the candidate next November.

[whatchamacallit]

9. No shit!

As obviously demented as republicans are, I've never know one that has splattered me the kind of vile goo I get from Hillary supporters. And they say we don't help our candidate...

[sabrina 1]

14. We are definitely helping our candidate, that's why he got this far, amazing really, how successful

his campaign continues to be. But yes, seeing the nastiness here, the 'white supremacist' garbage, etc coming from Hillary's supporters is something I won't forget anytime soon.

[beam me up scottie]

13. Because to some he is the real enemy.

Implying Bernie didn't march with MLK is another kind of birtherism and is so vile it makes Rove sorry he didn't think of it first.

[sabrina 1]

16. I think you may be right. He is the enemy of those who want to control our government. But

ordinary Democrats should be against that, shouldn't they? Most are I know, but why would ANYONE want to defend the kinds of nastiness we've seen aimed at Sanders?

[MerryBlooms]

43. The back and forth here goes way back, and has very little to with current politics.

If you notice, the same monikers that were aggressive participants in the old Meta forum are the aggressive participants in GDPee. When the admins shit canned Meta, the same participants turned GD into a daily poop fling fest, making GD unusable until you 'trashed' a bunch of OP's every morning. Once GDPee is gone, they'll be back once again in GD, making it nearly impossible to use. Rinse, repeat. Meh

'Ignore' and 'Trash' are awesome.

[beam me up scottie]

44. Wow. I never noticed that.

Excellent observation and advice!

[MerryBlooms]

47. My new mantra:

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[beam me up scottie]

48. LMAO!

I'm case I haven't told you lately ---

[MerryBlooms]

50. Ditto, kid. :)

[sabrina 1]

108. I noticed. I think many of us did!

[JoePhilly]

15. From the people who claim Hillary is the enemy!!!!

[sabrina 1]

17. Who are those people?

[JoePhilly]

19. You.

[sabrina 1]

20. Then you won't have a problem providing some links to where I, (I'm just one person btw) stated

that Hillary is the enemy??

[JoePhilly]

22. Sorry, I was wrong, you love Hillary ... think she's great.

My bad.

[boston bean]

28. LOL.

[sabrina 1]

30. 'Love'? What does love have to do with politicians we don't know personally?

[litlbilly]

62. That's really the response? No link or anything. You are the sadest troll ive seen in awhile

[Renew Deal]

38. Will you vote for Hillary if she is the nominee?

[tularetom]

56. Why does anyone have to tell you that?

Voting is a private matter. Thats why they have curtains around the voting booths.

[Renew Deal]

57. Because someone that doesn't see Hillary as the enemy can easily answer that.

I will vote for the Democratic nominee. Will you?

[Ed Suspicious]

71. I seriously think that's rude as hell to ask.

I would tell you flatly that it is none of your fucking business who I vote for.

[sabrina 1]

95. Loyalty Oaths. A detestable practice.

If you don't see how detestable a practice that is, I can't help you. If you don't understand why NO ONE is going to 'take your test', I can't help you.

I do not need to ask anyone if they will vote for my candidate, because I know they will.

If you feel the need to 'test the loyalty' of voters regarding your candidate, that says to me, you are not confident in your own candidate.

Those are the only people who issue loyalty oaths, people who are not confident in their own candidates.

Bernie I have full confidence in. You don't need to confirm YOUR loyalty to me or anyone else.

[Sheepshank]

122. So you will be talking to some of your fellow Bernie Supporters about this...right?

There are at least two of your buddies on this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=782681

[tularetom]

98. You are a faceless person using a fake name on an online forum

And yet somehow you think I'm gonna tell you who I'm going to vote for?

You must be out of your mind. Didn't you read my post. I don't tell my wife, why should I tell you?

[polly7]

75. You should know by now Sabrina doesn't fall for your bait. nt.

[sabrina 1]

93. Lol, thanks. Since Bernie is going to win I know who I will be supporting. You're right, my mom

wouldn't ask that question, but then she wouldn't have to, she would know because I am not shy about telling people who I am supporting and will be supporting.

[artislife]

114. Loyalty oath! Everyone...Drink!

[JoePhilly]

89. Read your own OPs.

I'm sure you can find them.

[sabrina 1]

91. There you go. I didn't think you could, but I thought I'd ask anyhow.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. the REAL enemy is Sanders Supporters.

I mean, come on. Purple shirts? WTF.

[sabrina 1]

21. That Talking Point was one of the funniest actually. I hope they didn't pay too much for it!

Volvos!! I still want a volvo now!

[beam me up scottie]

26. Not just purple, purple gingham!

[Scootaloo]

105. And fedoras!

[Sheepshank]

123. almost there...the real enemy to the Sanders campaign are his supporters n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

133. warrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghlllllllbbllllll

[DanTex]

23. Hey Bernistas! Hillary isn't the enemy. Why not save the smears for the real enemy?

Just wondering!

[sabrina 1]

31. No paid for smears coming from Bernie's campaign. Do you support Super Pacs planting smears iin

the media? Bernie couldnt afford to do that so you don't have much of a point there.

[DanTex]

34. Conspiracy!

[sabrina 1]

58. Brock, caught red handed planting smears in the media, runs Hillary's Super Pac which is coordinated

with her campaign.

Cass Sunstein: When people start talking about things that are inconvenient for the powerful, call them: CONSPIRACY THEORISTS!

[Warren DeMontague]

64. the real enemy is sanders supporters and "brogressives", right?

https://www.slantnews.com/story/2015-08-22-your-new-worst-enemy-the-brogressive

[DanTex]

67. Not at all. Some of them are childish and noisy, but most will vote for Hillary in the general.

[Warren DeMontague]

80. Childish and noisy like spending all day writing stupid ad hominem attacks against people on your

own side?

"SANDERS SUPPORTERS ARE WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHLLLLLLLLLLLLLBLLLLL"

That's rich, coming from the creamed-corn all over the high chair crowd.

[DanTex]

84. Yes, the people who bash Hillary all day really need to find something better to do.

Particularly since they're going to be voting for her a year from now.

[Warren DeMontague]

97. Again, she's the candidate.

And one of her big selling points is supposed to be her ability to eat up political attacks for breakfast.

While some of the criticism I've seen on DU of HRC is unfair, certainly things like her IWR vote or other aspects of her record are, to my mind, fair game and relevant and certainly not "bashing".

But none of that comes close to the low-valence, moronic neverending stream of "Sanders supporters suck hurr durr" which pretty much constitute a huge chunk of the "argument" such as it is, coming from the Hill Folk here in GD: P. Not even "bashing" the candidate (although he too appears to be widely and incoherently loathed) himself, more just throwing poop at his supporters like a pack of howling monkeys, really as far as I can tell for the sole purpose of pissing people off and then running back to the clubhouse to tee-hee tee-hee into little jelly smeared fingers.

If I had ten bucks for every stupid thread ostensibly not about Bernie Sanders but the "problematic" aspects of his alleged supporters, I'd have a big ol wheelbarrow full of cash.

It's fucking lame, is what it is.

[MrMickeysMom]

69. Oh, I think I get the gist of that...

Mimicry of the OP, just like HRC's morphing platform - highest form of flattery...

Well, it's so nice to see that you want to mimic an otherwise excellent OP, even though the recognition of who the real enemy is was never clarified.

[DanTex]

70. Of course, flattery! You are so perceptive!

[MrMickeysMom]

73. I perceive you'll tell us all who the real enemy is...

... You'll no doubt do this to finish your thought above.

[gaspee]

24. Pot meet kettle

I stopped coming to this site, mostly because I can't take all the Hillary hate. I'm still voting for Bernie in my primary - I haven't let the crazies or the asshats sway my vote, but I am really, really, really SICK of all of the Clinton bashing.

[sabrina 1]

35. Anyone here ever call you a White Supremacist because you support Hillary? Call HER the same thing?

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PLease, so many Bernie supporters have left this site because of the vicious attacks on them and their candidate and HAVENT come back.

I guess I have a pretty thick skin and don't worry about lies and deceptions because they are so easily destroyed.

[gaspee]

40. From a fairly neutral observer

Because I like ALL of them - each for different reasons, the hate is about 75 x 25 on this site. 75% directed at Clinton and 25 % directed at Sanders.

This place has become Sanders underground and the Clinton Derangement syndrome is DERANGED.

Still won't make me vote for her in the primary, but I am full well expecting to vote for her in the general.

I really like Martin O'Malley as well and wished I'd be able to cast a vote for him too.

[Warren DeMontague]

52. Just because Hillary supporters are outnumbered here, doesn't make their behavior acceptable.

I've seen countless threads throwing all kinds of poop at "Sanders Supporters"- who, apparently, are all libertarian, volvo-driving, fedora wearing, racist, misogynist, hateful, mac-using, purple shirt wearing "bros" who somehow manage to be in love with Ayn Rand and Hugo Chavez at the same time.

People do a lot of criticizing of Hillary Clinton here- some of it, probably, not fair - but guess what? She's the candidate. And frankly, one of her selling points all along has been that she is battle-tested and can withstand the winds of DC politics.

Part of the brain-numbing pathos of this place is that a cadre of Hill Folk have decided that running against "Sanders Supporters" is the way to win- okay, maybe not win, but at the very least piss a few of them off enough to get hides on DU, tee-hee tee-hee lol high five lol

I'm voting for the nominee, I was always gonna vote for the nominee, nothing said here would change that. But fuck a duck if some of the HRC people aren't over the top in their obnoxiousness. Being 'outnumbered' here isn't an excuse.

[sabrina 1]

99. You didn't answer my question, but never mind. I see it the exact opposite.

[gaspee]

42. The white supremisist comments aren't

directed at people who are Bernie supporters; they are directed at people who treat people of color as less than or stupid because they are not bernie supports.

I have seen it here and there and they're complaining about the way they are treated when they say why their community isn't full tilt behind Bernie. Not because said people are Bernie supporters. It's kind of crystal clear when reading it as a lurker who hasn't been involved in the fighting at all.

[Warren DeMontague]

59. Baloney. With threads like "Sanders' biggest problem is his supporters"?

Sure.

[sabrina 1]

100. No, they were directed at Bernie and his supporters. Which totally discredited everything else they

had to say.

[treestar]

88. Not specifically but I have seen

it called immoral, not having principles, etc.

[sabrina 1]

102. Well it definitel is immoral and unprincipled to call a Senator with a record like Sanders' a White

Supremacist, especially considering his own minority status and history. It was in fact, despicable.

[treestar]

118. I was not making that point

but that people are called that for supporting Hillary. Obviously that was my point.

[MohRokTah]

25. You first when it comes to Hillary. eom

[saturnsring]

27. you mean like these .. oh wait these are aimed at hillary

Stop Hillary! Vote no to a Clinton dynasty November 2014 issue Harper's Magazine
By UglyGreed - 9:52 AM

General Discussion: Primaries
The Man Who Bought the Clintons: the Political Business of Terry McAuliffe
By UglyGreed - 9:46 AM

UglyGreed (2,961 posts)

General Discussion: Primaries
Not only does Hillary steal Bernie's ideas
By UglyGreed - 4:37 PM

[beam me up scottie]

33. Pfft. That's nothing. You guys are still the ones to beat.

According to Hillary supporters on DU Bernie is Israel's #1 shill, a racist, gun nut, scheming little sneak, scumbag, pandering phony braggart with some kind of emotional instability, tool for the NRA, Republican man with his head between women's legs, who protects the minutemen militia, pedophiles, racist cops, has rape fantasies, thinks that orgasms prevent cancer and is supported by Stormfront.

[JonLeibowitz]

106. Thanks! It's always fun to see a new blue (unread) link in your expansive list. More reading to do!

[sabrina 1]

101. I see one name there. And it isn't mine.

[SidDithers]

49. Who, in your opinion, is the REAL ENEMY, sabrina?...nt

Sid

[sabrina 1]

104. Hey Sid, how do you like that election in Canada booting the neocon puppet out of office finally?

And how about the UK? And Greece?

The Left is on the rise all over the world after decades of neocon/liberal disastrous policies.

Here will be next!

[sabrina 1]

112. I almost forgot, you asked a queston! I'll let this soldier speak for me! Because she does!

:large

[SidDithers]

116. Yeah, that's not an answer. That's a dodge...nt

Sid

[sabrina 1]

125. That is my answer.

[stonecutter357]

117. Veterans and Military Families for Hillary and i will let thes soldier speak for me.

https://www.facebook.com/VeteransAndMilitaryFamiliesForHillary

[99Forever]

51. They can't stop themselves, it's what they are and...

... how they roll.

[Kalidurga]

53. But he is a white guy from Vermont

You know VERMONT!!!!!

[sabrina 1]

61. That's ENEMY TERRITORY! Or so we are told right here on DU ....

Not that anyone other than a few misguided people are buying it, but that's how ridiculous it got here for a while.

[Kalidurga]

63. I know I read a post

not dozens, but seriously even one is very ridiculous. It said something to the effect that Bernie is a racist because he went to live in a predominantly white state.

[senz]

109. I have seen several of those.

Some even claimed that he fled Brooklyn to get away from Black people! When they're desperate, they'll say anything.

[Kalidurga]

113. I didn't see that one.

I like the ones that claim he is cloistered in Vermont as well. As if he hasn't left to visit DC you know just on a lark to vote and stuff.

[NCTraveler]

54. Because it's a primary.

Someone wins someone loses. This has to be one of the most polite primaries in decades.

Make you a bet. You post three of the most offensive ops by Clinton supporters. I'll put up the most offensive three from Sanders supporters. We will do this every day until the first primary. Guess what, neither of us would run out of material and both piles of links would be equally offensive. We would have taken part in foolishness that we both already know to be true.

Clinton is not your enemy.

[sabrina 1]

65. Well, for Hillary it has been polite. For Bernie and his supporters it has been non stop attacks

which of course they are not going to allow to fester and become 'fact' like the Swift Boaters managed to do to Kerry.

Since we've already SEEN the exposure of the smear campaign by Brock, trying to plant lies about Sanders in the media, we don't need to try to GUESS where the Swift Boat attempts are coming from.

[tritsofme]

60. I agree. His campaign doesn't deserve smears...only snark.

[Dem2]

68. I agree

and this applies equally to Bernie supporters who do exactly the same thing just as often best I can tell.

[sabrina 1]

74. A paid-for smear campaign and people on the internet posting facts about someone's record

are not the same thing. I notice this 'both sides are doing it' routine that we so abhorred once upon a time here on DU.

Hillary's Super Pac, run by David 'blinded by the money' Brock, who is coordinating, her campaign says, with her campaign, funded by Corporate Money was caught red handed using some of that money to plant a LIE in the media, hoping to remain anonymous, a couple of weeks ago.

Now we had SEEN that 'talking point' being disseminated by Hillary surrogates, Claire McCaskill, Guttierrez to name a few, so we know it as a planned talking point to try to smear Sanders.

There is NO comparison between people posting Hillary's record on the issues, and/or Sanders, to this kind of dirty campaign tactic.

Absolutely NONE.

But it highlights what Sanders' campaign is mostly all about, getting the money out of politics which happens to be for the first time, a TOP ISSUE for voters in this election.

[Dem2]

79. I am not familar with this so-called "smear" campaign

seems very few who are responding see the tactics you're raising and are responding to the vitriol (from both sides) that's in their faces right here on DU.

[sabrina 1]

85. Again, it is NOT both sides! But that's what they do when they are caught. As they were.

They fall back on the 'both sides' meme. Not going to work because there is no comparison with what Hillary's Super Pac run by Brock, funded by Corporate Money tried to do, anonymously, but was exposed, and we were proven to be right, that those attempts to smear Sanders by Hillary's surrogates, were coordinated.

That cannot happen re Bernie's campaign. He has no Corporate Funded Super Pacs run by Right Wing Smear Mongers, like David Brock.

Ordinary people might say a few things that are not accurate, but they won't be PLANTED IN THE MEDIA because that TAKES MONEY and people who have no prinicples, such as David Brock.

[Dem2]

87. I'm still not seeing it

It may be true that Hillary has more money and more supporters in high places (access to the media) to go on TV and be critical of Bernie, but I don't believe this is having much effect on Bernie - if anything I believe it might help him as people like myself, and I would guess many other Democrats, sympathize with the underdog. If I want to know Hillary's opinion, I listen to Hillary, if I want to know Bernie's opinion, I listen to Bernie. Just as I tire of lame or unfair arguments here, the same applies with talking trolls on TV.

[sabrina 1]

96. What are you not seeing, maybe I can help you ...

[stonecutter357]

72. .

[Tarc]

76. The vitriol form the Sanders supports is far worse

Clean your own house.

[sabrina 1]

107. No, it isn't. What has come from Hillary supporters from the beginning is some of the worst I have

seen since the 2008 election, coming from the same campaign. Obama, Bernie, same tactics. I wonder why since they didn't work then, why they think they will work now.

[Tarc]

127. Delusional whackjobbery

as the further Sanders falls behind, the sadder his supporters get.

[sabrina 1]

128. Sanders has soared from 3% just months ago, to now over 35% among DEMS alone.

It's an amazing accomplishment so far and is the reason why we are seeing all these attacks, which haven't stopped him at all and won't.

Obama was LESS than that at the same time in 2008. And as an Obama supporter then, I remember posts just like yours and when I see them now, I just smile. I believe Obama was around 22% which was good for someone who didn't have the name recognition Hillary has.

But Hillary supporters are making the same mistake now that they made then regarding the polls.

And I'm kind of glad because like then, they are experiencing a false sense security, and forgetting, that Bernie's support is coming from far larger demographics than the Dem base which has shrunk to only 32% of the electorate.

Which is why I find myself smiling at posts like yours.

[Tarc]

130. So an F-- to a D+ ?

Feelin the bern, indeed.

[HassleCat]

78. Probably not that many Democrats hate Bernie.

Most Democrats see the value of two or three, but not fourteen, candidates duking it out in a primary. There are a few who don't just love Clinton, but the whole "destiny" thing, and they seem to be the problem. They post stuff on here arguing that any criticism of Clinton aids the Republicans, and is useless because she has it all wrapped up.

[BainsBane]

82. Why have we had 50,000+ threads attacking Clinton

the likely nominee? You yourself have written no small number of them, a series of which lately dealt with her gender and how you don't believe she behaves like a woman is supposed to by casting doubt on her male superior, a candidate you happen to support. If you want to talk about issues, why do you repeatedly refuse to as much as examine Clinton's policy positions? Or do you think it acceptable to attack Clinton and her voters as not "real people," "corporatists, shills, obsessed with vaginas, camp weathervane, tools of Goldman Sachs and the 1 percent, Turd Way, and the other insults that are commonplace around here?

Why is it we can't question whether Bernie told the truth about an event in the past that supposedly stands as proof that he has done more for Civil Rights than anyone else in congress, yet it's okay to trash Clinton for years on end? You and some others here insist Sanders not be criticized, his voting record not be discussed, and when he is caught telling a questionable story, it's not his fault. Naturally it's all part of a conspiracy of the Clintons, MSM, science and logic, which all conspire to bend the space-time continuum to plant someone at the U of Chicago to contradict Bernie 50 years later.

The constant double standard reveals a hierarchical notion of human worth that is directly counter to any principles of equality. This constant determination that Sanders not be criticized, that as much as discussing his voting record amounts to a "smear" in the fact of constant vitriol toward Clinton is incredible. Firstly, any candidate has to be vetted. Your commitment to ensuring Sanders not be only serves the GOP because if by some miracle he became the nominee, he would be completely untested. The GOP could then destroy him in the General Election, and Sanders' supporters wouldn't be able to use the jury system to vote the GOP off the island.
Primaries serve the purpose of showing what candidates are made of. You are determined that Sanders not undergo that test. It would appear some of his own supporters view him as too fragile to deal with the scrutiny of presidential politics. And while the fact you post this plea while continuing to trash Clinton day after day reveals your own conviction that what applies to one should not apply to all, it also shows that Clinton is tough in a way you yourself don't believe Sanders is. I don't know why you would want to support someone for President who you think so unable to handle criticism about his voting record, his past, or even a minor interruption on a stage. Many of you treat him as a victim, which is ironic since you insisted that Clinton's audacity in speaking of sexism was "playing the victim," yet it is Sanders who is treated as too vulnerable to undergo the typical scrutiny that accompanies any presidential election.

[daleanime]

86. Have to practice....

if you want to be in mid-season form.



Just in case...

[stonecutter357]

92. when and if bernie fails to be elected it will be his fault no one else.

stop making excuses for Bernie.

[sabrina 1]

94. If Hillary fails to be elected it will be for the same reasons she failed last time. Same kind of

negative campaigning. People don't like it. Bernie will BENEFIT from it as did Obama.

[treestar]

119. oh you know how it will be

The Oligarchs did not "let" Bernie win. The "Corporations" poured money onto Hillary so she'd win. The DNC rigged the game. Debbie WS will be at fault (she already is). Once again, Wall Street will have defeated The People. These posts can be written now and saved for after the primaries.

[redstateblues]

103. I like and respect Bernie

but I'm voting for Hillary. I would happily vote for Bernie if he won the nomination.

[senz]

110. Anyone who threatens to get between Gollum and her "precious" is the enemy.

[Sheepshank]

121. If this OP is some sort of Olive Branch

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If so, you've got to get a lot more people from the Bernie side on board with your narrative, because surely you expect this to be a two way street? Judging from the Bernie Supporter comments up thread, it isn't happening.

Historically, and really, it's not all that difficult to look up, attacks on Hillary are occurring with a greater intensity and with greater numbers and with hundreds of recs. So tell me why it's in the best interest of Hillary, her supporters and her campaign to act like a sitting duck, unless the Bernie supporters are willing as well?

FWIW and ETA I have never seen Bernie as the enemy. I welcome lively debate and the competition. I do however see enemies in the types of posters claiming to be Bernie supporters. And I know I'm no the only one...there are articles, there are posts, there are responses...it's not a one off situation.

[JoePhilly]

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