2016 Postmortem

bl968

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88. We disagree on the relative value of your statement of choice of candidate

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 02:38 PM

Oct 2015

It's not personal, I simply stated my opinion that people should give the opinion stated in this thread the full value it deserves. Your post history makes one thing clear, you are, and always have been a Clinton supporter.

So when someone reads your message here and has not looked at your posts and believes that you decided to magically change your opinion. I want them to be aware of that fact, so they can do a little digging themselves and see for themselves.

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I've changed my mind. [View all] Agschmid Oct 2015 OP

Our party is only strengthened by having folks such as yourself in it./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #1

Very much agree! lovemydog Oct 2015 #122

I have contributed to Clinton also Gothmog Oct 2015 #2

By what mechanism do you beleive the Republcians will win, if Sanders were the nominee? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #3

An election is never decided before the vote... Agschmid Oct 2015 #5

I'm just trying to learn how you came to the conclusion that made your mind Scootaloo Oct 2015 #8

In my opinion, which I'm entitled to. Agschmid Oct 2015 #16

Didn't say you weren't. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #20

Sorry for the defense. Agschmid Oct 2015 #31

Well, for what it's worth Scootaloo Oct 2015 #149

Thanks for that. Agschmid Oct 2015 #150

It's difficult to decide what criteria to vote by. Bubzer Oct 2015 #267

From the wording of the OP DFW Oct 2015 #271

Good last sentence, I love it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #283

The PUMA mechanism, but on steroids this time. nt Edited to add IMO Snotcicles Oct 2015 #121

How does my stand show "Party Unity My Ass"? Agschmid Oct 2015 #130

It doesn't my bad. That is my theroy. If hillary can win why can't Bernie? Snotcicles Oct 2015 #139

Well even though I have a position here... Agschmid Oct 2015 #145

Maybe you can answer this question? Gothmog Oct 2015 #144

LOLOL. What a shocker! merrily Oct 2015 #4

I thought he or she was for Bernie for what's it worth./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #6

LOL! merrily Oct 2015 #7

I am constantly looking for allies and I didn't consider him or her one. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #9

Wel now you've got one. Agschmid Oct 2015 #11

Neither did the Bernie Sanders Group. merrily Oct 2015 #12

I'll stick with it... Agschmid Oct 2015 #32

Yes, Warren and Clinton have nothing in common but after two years they are still women DhhD Oct 2015 #70

Bernie has forced Clinton to the left, and that's a good thing. Agschmid Oct 2015 #73

Correction: Bernie has forced Hillary to PRETEND to move to the Left. Big difference. AzDar Oct 2015 #94

I can trust this one: cprise Oct 2015 #126

"Trust" comment again?....the last resort when the facts are not aligned with beliefs. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #128

Her honest and trustworthy numbers are terrible jfern Oct 2015 #137

^^^ THis ^^^ - You Nailed The Underlying Fraud And Duplicity Of HRC cantbeserious Oct 2015 #132

Results LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #40

Thank you. The replies of every supporter of Bernie on this thread are as unanimous as it gets. merrily Oct 2015 #97

Another accusation of lies. Agschmid Oct 2015 #99

Juror #7 needs a nap, I think. n/t bvf Oct 2015 #100

Yes, I don't understand most of what they were trying to say. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #265

How cute .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #176

Never bought that whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #10

I love the dramatic announcement, too! merrily Oct 2015 #15

I'm a gay man. Agschmid Oct 2015 #34

Not really. Hetero "former Bernie supporters" have made dramatic announcements that merrily Oct 2015 #36

So you take to heart on what Clinton said about LGBT's 11 years ago? FLOATER Oct 2015 #67

Oh wow look a newbee ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #179

You're deflecting. Instead, I would invite you to answer the question. It's a legitimnate one. Bubzer Oct 2015 #269

Please disregard ronnykmarshall's comment. Bubzer Oct 2015 #270

I can speak for myself sweetie. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #285

We will have plenty more drama if she wins: cprise Oct 2015 #107

It's an election there will be drama no matter what. Agschmid Oct 2015 #111

Do you think what I just posted cprise Oct 2015 #123

Did I say I did? Agschmid Oct 2015 #129

I won't fight for a war monger. eom cprise Oct 2015 #131

Well then considering all our candidates have at some point voted for war... Agschmid Oct 2015 #146

That is a cheap rationalization for supporting someone who still cprise Oct 2015 #161

Anyone who is rational is anti war. Agschmid Oct 2015 #162

Rational people don't let words and actions like hers slide. eom cprise Oct 2015 #163

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #164

I did as well. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #18

He or she just avoided the flame wars, maybe that's why there is uncertainty./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #23

Not avoided. Just always took Hillary's side and never Bernie's. merrily Oct 2015 #38

Don't know why you won't believe me! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #181

I'm not worried. Agschmid Oct 2015 #200

Proof of posts? They're on the board. Anyone can see them. No stalking. I just saw them on the merrily Oct 2015 #242

I think they were a mod at the Bernie forum. madfloridian Oct 2015 #25

See up thread I got the boot almost immediately. Agschmid Oct 2015 #35

Don't flatter yourself. You didn't even make the top 10. bvf Oct 2015 #103

Tried to take charge. Got outmaneuvered, then blocked. See Reply 12. merrily Oct 2015 #43

What puzzles me... madfloridian Oct 2015 #46

I decided to quit, clearly that didn't happen. Agschmid Oct 2015 #48

You've never seemed like the confused type to me, madfloridian. merrily Oct 2015 #49

You are not alone in this observation . TheFarS1de Oct 2015 #165

So much smoke and mirrors... CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #262

If by "tried to take charge"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #47

I mean more than that, but I am not going to debate it. Posts by other Bernie Group members merrily Oct 2015 #51

I'm not a bad guy, and I'm not a liar. Agschmid Oct 2015 #53

I haven't called you either one. You're the one tossing those words around. merrily Oct 2015 #55

Your implication that I wasn't sincere in my support of Bernie... Agschmid Oct 2015 #62

All I wanted to know is why you have deleted so many of your past posts? madfloridian Oct 2015 #115

Because I thought about quitting DU, and I did for about a week. Agschmid Oct 2015 #118

So did I. Andy823 Oct 2015 #219

Lots of byzantine intrigue on this board. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #221

OMG I need something to calm down. Puglover Oct 2015 #24

I know, right? Every bit as shocking as the others who had a "change" of heart or who merrily Oct 2015 #27

Do you know me? Agschmid Oct 2015 #37

I've read your posts here I formed an opinion from them. I even discussed it with you. Lo and merrily Oct 2015 #41

I'm aware. Agschmid Oct 2015 #42

Beware of boiled bunny ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #187

Well, you just squeaked by... chervilant Oct 2015 #253

Juror #6 is a little bit confused. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #264

So much for the jury system! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #287

What's an IL? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #286

When I read the headline and saw who it was. zeemike Oct 2015 #158

Is he on "the list"? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #197

I was #12 on the list. Agschmid Oct 2015 #199

No but there are lots of list out there. zeemike Oct 2015 #250

I guess I should add insecure, to the liar thing. Agschmid Oct 2015 #198

No it is the insecure that follow not lead. zeemike Oct 2015 #244

I've accepted the "is what it is" meme Agschmid Oct 2015 #247

Uh huh. artislife Oct 2015 #26

I have zero problem with that. The mystifying bit is the initial attempt at pretense. merrily Oct 2015 #30

Yup artislife Oct 2015 #79

Yup. Agschmid Oct 2015 #39

+1000 MissDeeds Oct 2015 #83

Here is another accusation I lied. Agschmid Oct 2015 #85

I never said you lied MissDeeds Oct 2015 #89

It's a defense mechanism Sheepshank Oct 2015 #98

Welcome aboard,now put on your flame proof clothes, sufrommich Oct 2015 #13

Indeed. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #147

Nice. And I certainly agree that Persondem Oct 2015 #14

Spam deleted by MIR Team NoHillary2016 Oct 2015 #252

Which scandal is this? Agschmid Oct 2015 #255

How about the Clinton Trust fund. There's a winner classykaren Oct 2015 #275

I agree classykaren Oct 2015 #274

Excellent people to pick from... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #17

Well, your choice, and seeing that you're going for platitudes and fluff, good luck. Sincerely. NervousGuy Oct 2015 #19

I disagree. Agschmid Oct 2015 #21

... SidDithers Oct 2015 #33

I have a question. Since you were on MIRT what is the easiest way to reach them? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #91

Just check the list in announcements and PM on of them... Agschmid Oct 2015 #92

Best way is to check the new MIRT list... SidDithers Oct 2015 #141

Your reasons for supporting Hillary over Bernie completely mirror my own. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #22

And mine. calimary Oct 2015 #50

Very thoughtful post and explanation lunamagica Oct 2015 #28

You are a great supporter, love your post though not always a Hillary supporter you still posted Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #44

Sure if that's how you want to see it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #106

Well so far I've only "flip" and I doubt I'll "flop". Agschmid Oct 2015 #112

Its always boiled down to who can actually win. procon Oct 2015 #45

Really? So any one with a (D) next to their name is good enough? bowens43 Oct 2015 #236

The alternative is a Republican in the White House. procon Oct 2015 #266

I am also pragmatic. saidsimplesimon Oct 2015 #272

No, first comes securing the nomination at the Democratic convention. procon Oct 2015 #276

I don't mean to dismiss your decision ejbr Oct 2015 #54

I also agree with her on lots of policy as well. Agschmid Oct 2015 #57

I respect your decision n/t ejbr Oct 2015 #61

Thanks. Agschmid Oct 2015 #63

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #56

You actually are trying to convince us you changed your mind?! TM99 Oct 2015 #58

I don't need to convince you of anything... Agschmid Oct 2015 #68

You seem to be forgetting that TM99 Oct 2015 #69

Ok.... SoapBox Oct 2015 #59

Your last sentence says it for me, too. 840high Oct 2015 #71

If Sanders is the nominee I will do everything in my power to get him elected. Agschmid Oct 2015 #75

Good post, and I agree, what matters is winning next November. DanTex Oct 2015 #60

There's much bitterness that can't be contained with some. nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #64

Congratulations. Autumn Oct 2015 #65

You and I we keep it civil, thank you. Agschmid Oct 2015 #66

I have no animosity toward anyone who supports Hillary, that posts Autumn Oct 2015 #143

This is my favorite OP of the month. Puglover Oct 2015 #93

How much does that subscription cost annually? Agschmid Oct 2015 #96

Heh. Puglover Oct 2015 #105

That's not bad I'll even be able to afford it on my salary. Agschmid Oct 2015 #116

Yeah it's a good one Autumn Oct 2015 #154

Hillary Clinton vs Bernie Sanders bl968 Oct 2015 #72

. Agschmid Oct 2015 #76

Mutually incompatible bl968 Oct 2015 #81

And again we get personal. Agschmid Oct 2015 #82

We disagree on the relative value of your statement of choice of candidate bl968 Oct 2015 #88

So I'm a liar then? Agschmid Oct 2015 #90

You're not a liar, you just don't get it. Ron Green Oct 2015 #140

Well we feel the same... Agschmid Oct 2015 #160

Your innocuous observation got alerted on (I voted to Leave It of course). SunSeeker Oct 2015 #101

Thanks. Agschmid Oct 2015 #104

Wow.. now they're not even allowing to make the observation that someone is getting Cha Oct 2015 #133

You can go away now. leftofcool Oct 2015 #245

+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #102

It's been interesting reading your different posts, too, Agschmid.. we're fortunate to have you on Cha Oct 2015 #74

Me too! MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #77

Well all least we both can handle the heat. Agschmid Oct 2015 #87

Lol! You're killing me! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #108

You've been decidedly pro Clinton across this board Fearless Oct 2015 #78

A well thought out, and wise, decision. George II Oct 2015 #80

Great post. William769 Oct 2015 #84

Is he now allowed to go to The Political Pub? BeanMusical Oct 2015 #113

Yes he is. Autumn Oct 2015 #171

Oh wow! 99Forever Oct 2015 #86

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #95

This thread has mushroomed DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #109

A great decision. Glad to have you supporting Hillary. leftofcool Oct 2015 #110

Glad to have you on Team Hillary! BooScout Oct 2015 #114

I am happy aspirant Oct 2015 #117

Thanks. Agschmid Oct 2015 #119

I'm glad you're engaged in the process. lovemydog Oct 2015 #120

Luckily I'm close to NH so I get to be very involved! Agschmid Oct 2015 #127

That's great. I know you'll be kind toward lovemydog Oct 2015 #135

Sad choice, but it is yours to make. Bernie wins if you vote for him. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #124

Sad to see Bernie lose a supporter, and I disagree a bit on the issue of who can best win the WIProgressive88 Oct 2015 #125

Welcome. In solidarity riversedge Oct 2015 #134

:) Winning in 2016!! Duval Oct 2015 #136

There is a growing number of people who don't think like this anymore raindaddy Oct 2015 #138

Very thoughtful post raindaddy Caretha Oct 2015 #246

Thank you Caretha.. raindaddy Oct 2015 #261

Where have you "seen" Hillary three times in the past three weeks? (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #142

Well... Agschmid Oct 2015 #148

I don't keep up with her campaign schedule... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #166

One was an event, two were rallies/speeches. Agschmid Oct 2015 #168

In Texas, that's like driving from one county to another. okasha Oct 2015 #233

Thanks, I'll post pics next time I see her. Agschmid Oct 2015 #234

Does the new one work any better? jberryhill Oct 2015 #151

And by the "new one" you mean? Agschmid Oct 2015 #152

You said you changed your mind jberryhill Oct 2015 #153

I'll let you know in about a week. Agschmid Oct 2015 #155

Good point jberryhill Oct 2015 #156

Just as convincing as MineralMan's "conversion". nt Romulox Oct 2015 #157

Again I'm getting called a liar. Agschmid Oct 2015 #159

I think liar is a harsh word. artislife Oct 2015 #173

I respect your choice. Agschmid Oct 2015 #174

HA, I never knew you were NOT a Hillary supporter! m-lekktor Oct 2015 #167

You know the phrase about making assumptions? Agschmid Oct 2015 #169

Which is why many said WTF?! when he wanted to host the Bernie group. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #180

Again calling me a liar. Agschmid Oct 2015 #182

If I were to assign a descriptor, it would be that it's obviously theater. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #184

What's obvious? Agschmid Oct 2015 #186

You are too much. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #195

I never called him a liar, did I? AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #196

Serious? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #201

I wasn't here in 2004 and I supported Obama here in 2008, so your tizzy was for naught. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #206

You did. Agschmid Oct 2015 #203

I absolutely did not. Anybody with eyes can see that. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #205

Good I'm glad you ackowledged that I supported Bernie. Agschmid Oct 2015 #208

Never said that either. You might want to look into getting your eyes checked. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #210

No I'm good. Agschmid Oct 2015 #211

You rock. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #213

Another personal insult .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #212

+1 DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #214

This crap is so typical. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #215

"Help I'm being repressed": Clinton supporters' clarion call w/ pretzel declarations of victimhood. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #216

Keep digging. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #218

Never said what I'm being accused of, and anybody here can see that. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #222

Why do you give shit? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #229

you're soon getting alert stalked...... bettyellen Oct 2015 #254

I don't claim to be anyone's victim, especially not yours. Agschmid Oct 2015 #224

You've accused MANY people in this thread of calling you a liar, made up out of thin air. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #227

When you have people saying "I knew all along what you posted isn't actually what you thought"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #228

You're being monitored ... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #231

I'm not concerned. Agschmid Oct 2015 #232

ooo posting history .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #230

Uhmm...the triple-platinum version okasha Oct 2015 #237

Well there is an online poll ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #239

Lol! demmiblue Oct 2015 #170

bookmark this thread for proof of personal attacks on Hillary supporters. boston bean Oct 2015 #172

Oh hell yes ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #189

The irony would be funny if it wasn't so sad. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #204

Feel free to stalk me around the Internet. boston bean Oct 2015 #209

Don't flatter yourself. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #217

Oh oh oh oh .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #220

No but I can give you my grand mother's recipe. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #223

YUM!!!! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #225

So what? Very creepy behavior if you ask boston bean Oct 2015 #243

Sorry, I know what you are trying to do but I won't take the bait. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #249

No. Creepy behavior is creating another site to spew hatred toward this site and its members cui bono Oct 2015 #268

+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #288

Exactly... Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #273

Hi Jo! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #280

Speak of the devil.. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #281

Thank you! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #282

Hell, bookmark just about any thread. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #248

I am proud to stand with Agschmid. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #175

It's so telling .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #177

So much for unconditional love? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #178

This. Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #190

I don't consider the attackers "supporters" of Sanders. joshcryer Oct 2015 #192

So with you on that Josh. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #193

and if you look at their posts before Sanders was running JI7 Oct 2015 #256

Just wait... joshcryer Oct 2015 #257

No one should support a candidate because they hate another one... Agschmid Oct 2015 #258

You, Agschmid are no liar. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #183

I've dealt with worse. Agschmid Oct 2015 #185

If you change your mind we will be disappointed but we won't pillory you... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #188

The hateful bitterness on this thread because someone sufrommich Oct 2015 #191

The divisiveness within their own camp... sheshe2 Oct 2015 #194

Why did you decide? Because you like her support of more H1b visas? More outsourcing? Support for peacebird Oct 2015 #202

I stand with her based on most of her policy positions. Agschmid Oct 2015 #207

For all the reasons stated in my other post I can never support Hillary. I don't think the middle peacebird Oct 2015 #263

Great decision. K&R Kang Colby Oct 2015 #226

There is no 'win' with hillary. bowens43 Oct 2015 #235

I feel differently. Agschmid Oct 2015 #238

Well, there's a Wall Street win and a corporate win with Hillary senz Oct 2015 #240

I'm rooting for a win against republicans. Agschmid Oct 2015 #241

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #251

That's fine. People change their minds. closeupready Oct 2015 #259

Thanks for your words. Agschmid Oct 2015 #260

In good company shivors Oct 2015 #277

Can you please include the missing information from the table you've included in your post? Agschmid Oct 2015 #278

jury results restorefreedom Oct 2015 #279

Dear juror 3, this just *isn't* the facts. Agschmid Oct 2015 #284