2016 Postmortem

calimary

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 02:02 PM

Oct 2015

Glad to hear this, Agschmid! I know you put a lot of thought and study and observation into this. Thank you. And welcome to Team Hillary!

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I've changed my mind. [View all] Agschmid Oct 2015 OP

Our party is only strengthened by having folks such as yourself in it./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #1

Very much agree! lovemydog Oct 2015 #122

I have contributed to Clinton also Gothmog Oct 2015 #2

By what mechanism do you beleive the Republcians will win, if Sanders were the nominee? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #3

An election is never decided before the vote... Agschmid Oct 2015 #5

I'm just trying to learn how you came to the conclusion that made your mind Scootaloo Oct 2015 #8

In my opinion, which I'm entitled to. Agschmid Oct 2015 #16

Didn't say you weren't. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #20

Sorry for the defense. Agschmid Oct 2015 #31

Well, for what it's worth Scootaloo Oct 2015 #149

Thanks for that. Agschmid Oct 2015 #150

It's difficult to decide what criteria to vote by. Bubzer Oct 2015 #267

From the wording of the OP DFW Oct 2015 #271

Good last sentence, I love it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #283

The PUMA mechanism, but on steroids this time. nt Edited to add IMO Snotcicles Oct 2015 #121

How does my stand show "Party Unity My Ass"? Agschmid Oct 2015 #130

It doesn't my bad. That is my theroy. If hillary can win why can't Bernie? Snotcicles Oct 2015 #139

Well even though I have a position here... Agschmid Oct 2015 #145

Maybe you can answer this question? Gothmog Oct 2015 #144

LOLOL. What a shocker! merrily Oct 2015 #4

I thought he or she was for Bernie for what's it worth./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #6

LOL! merrily Oct 2015 #7

I am constantly looking for allies and I didn't consider him or her one. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #9

Wel now you've got one. Agschmid Oct 2015 #11

Neither did the Bernie Sanders Group. merrily Oct 2015 #12

I'll stick with it... Agschmid Oct 2015 #32

Yes, Warren and Clinton have nothing in common but after two years they are still women DhhD Oct 2015 #70

Bernie has forced Clinton to the left, and that's a good thing. Agschmid Oct 2015 #73

Correction: Bernie has forced Hillary to PRETEND to move to the Left. Big difference. AzDar Oct 2015 #94

I can trust this one: cprise Oct 2015 #126

"Trust" comment again?....the last resort when the facts are not aligned with beliefs. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #128

Her honest and trustworthy numbers are terrible jfern Oct 2015 #137

^^^ THis ^^^ - You Nailed The Underlying Fraud And Duplicity Of HRC cantbeserious Oct 2015 #132

Results LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #40

Thank you. The replies of every supporter of Bernie on this thread are as unanimous as it gets. merrily Oct 2015 #97

Another accusation of lies. Agschmid Oct 2015 #99

Juror #7 needs a nap, I think. n/t bvf Oct 2015 #100

Yes, I don't understand most of what they were trying to say. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #265

How cute .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #176

Never bought that whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #10

I love the dramatic announcement, too! merrily Oct 2015 #15

I'm a gay man. Agschmid Oct 2015 #34

Not really. Hetero "former Bernie supporters" have made dramatic announcements that merrily Oct 2015 #36

So you take to heart on what Clinton said about LGBT's 11 years ago? FLOATER Oct 2015 #67

Oh wow look a newbee ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #179

You're deflecting. Instead, I would invite you to answer the question. It's a legitimnate one. Bubzer Oct 2015 #269

Please disregard ronnykmarshall's comment. Bubzer Oct 2015 #270

I can speak for myself sweetie. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #285

We will have plenty more drama if she wins: cprise Oct 2015 #107

It's an election there will be drama no matter what. Agschmid Oct 2015 #111

Do you think what I just posted cprise Oct 2015 #123

Did I say I did? Agschmid Oct 2015 #129

I won't fight for a war monger. eom cprise Oct 2015 #131

Well then considering all our candidates have at some point voted for war... Agschmid Oct 2015 #146

That is a cheap rationalization for supporting someone who still cprise Oct 2015 #161

Anyone who is rational is anti war. Agschmid Oct 2015 #162

Rational people don't let words and actions like hers slide. eom cprise Oct 2015 #163

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #164

I did as well. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #18

He or she just avoided the flame wars, maybe that's why there is uncertainty./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #23

Not avoided. Just always took Hillary's side and never Bernie's. merrily Oct 2015 #38

Don't know why you won't believe me! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #181

I'm not worried. Agschmid Oct 2015 #200

Proof of posts? They're on the board. Anyone can see them. No stalking. I just saw them on the merrily Oct 2015 #242

I think they were a mod at the Bernie forum. madfloridian Oct 2015 #25

See up thread I got the boot almost immediately. Agschmid Oct 2015 #35

Don't flatter yourself. You didn't even make the top 10. bvf Oct 2015 #103

Tried to take charge. Got outmaneuvered, then blocked. See Reply 12. merrily Oct 2015 #43

What puzzles me... madfloridian Oct 2015 #46

I decided to quit, clearly that didn't happen. Agschmid Oct 2015 #48

You've never seemed like the confused type to me, madfloridian. merrily Oct 2015 #49

You are not alone in this observation . TheFarS1de Oct 2015 #165

So much smoke and mirrors... CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #262

If by "tried to take charge"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #47

I mean more than that, but I am not going to debate it. Posts by other Bernie Group members merrily Oct 2015 #51

I'm not a bad guy, and I'm not a liar. Agschmid Oct 2015 #53

I haven't called you either one. You're the one tossing those words around. merrily Oct 2015 #55

Your implication that I wasn't sincere in my support of Bernie... Agschmid Oct 2015 #62

All I wanted to know is why you have deleted so many of your past posts? madfloridian Oct 2015 #115

Because I thought about quitting DU, and I did for about a week. Agschmid Oct 2015 #118

So did I. Andy823 Oct 2015 #219

Lots of byzantine intrigue on this board. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #221

OMG I need something to calm down. Puglover Oct 2015 #24

I know, right? Every bit as shocking as the others who had a "change" of heart or who merrily Oct 2015 #27

Do you know me? Agschmid Oct 2015 #37

I've read your posts here I formed an opinion from them. I even discussed it with you. Lo and merrily Oct 2015 #41

I'm aware. Agschmid Oct 2015 #42

Beware of boiled bunny ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #187

Well, you just squeaked by... chervilant Oct 2015 #253

Juror #6 is a little bit confused. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #264

So much for the jury system! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #287

What's an IL? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #286

When I read the headline and saw who it was. zeemike Oct 2015 #158

Is he on "the list"? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #197

I was #12 on the list. Agschmid Oct 2015 #199

No but there are lots of list out there. zeemike Oct 2015 #250

I guess I should add insecure, to the liar thing. Agschmid Oct 2015 #198

No it is the insecure that follow not lead. zeemike Oct 2015 #244

I've accepted the "is what it is" meme Agschmid Oct 2015 #247

Uh huh. artislife Oct 2015 #26

I have zero problem with that. The mystifying bit is the initial attempt at pretense. merrily Oct 2015 #30

Yup artislife Oct 2015 #79

Yup. Agschmid Oct 2015 #39

+1000 MissDeeds Oct 2015 #83

Here is another accusation I lied. Agschmid Oct 2015 #85

I never said you lied MissDeeds Oct 2015 #89

It's a defense mechanism Sheepshank Oct 2015 #98

Welcome aboard,now put on your flame proof clothes, sufrommich Oct 2015 #13

Indeed. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #147

Nice. And I certainly agree that Persondem Oct 2015 #14

Spam deleted by MIR Team NoHillary2016 Oct 2015 #252

Which scandal is this? Agschmid Oct 2015 #255

How about the Clinton Trust fund. There's a winner classykaren Oct 2015 #275

I agree classykaren Oct 2015 #274

Excellent people to pick from... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #17

Well, your choice, and seeing that you're going for platitudes and fluff, good luck. Sincerely. NervousGuy Oct 2015 #19

I disagree. Agschmid Oct 2015 #21

... SidDithers Oct 2015 #33

I have a question. Since you were on MIRT what is the easiest way to reach them? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #91

Just check the list in announcements and PM on of them... Agschmid Oct 2015 #92

Best way is to check the new MIRT list... SidDithers Oct 2015 #141

Your reasons for supporting Hillary over Bernie completely mirror my own. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #22

And mine. calimary Oct 2015 #50

Very thoughtful post and explanation lunamagica Oct 2015 #28

You are a great supporter, love your post though not always a Hillary supporter you still posted Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #44

Sure if that's how you want to see it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #106

Well so far I've only "flip" and I doubt I'll "flop". Agschmid Oct 2015 #112

Its always boiled down to who can actually win. procon Oct 2015 #45

Really? So any one with a (D) next to their name is good enough? bowens43 Oct 2015 #236

The alternative is a Republican in the White House. procon Oct 2015 #266

I am also pragmatic. saidsimplesimon Oct 2015 #272

No, first comes securing the nomination at the Democratic convention. procon Oct 2015 #276

I don't mean to dismiss your decision ejbr Oct 2015 #54

I also agree with her on lots of policy as well. Agschmid Oct 2015 #57

I respect your decision n/t ejbr Oct 2015 #61

Thanks. Agschmid Oct 2015 #63

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #56

You actually are trying to convince us you changed your mind?! TM99 Oct 2015 #58

I don't need to convince you of anything... Agschmid Oct 2015 #68

You seem to be forgetting that TM99 Oct 2015 #69

Ok.... SoapBox Oct 2015 #59

Your last sentence says it for me, too. 840high Oct 2015 #71

If Sanders is the nominee I will do everything in my power to get him elected. Agschmid Oct 2015 #75

Good post, and I agree, what matters is winning next November. DanTex Oct 2015 #60

There's much bitterness that can't be contained with some. nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #64

Congratulations. Autumn Oct 2015 #65

You and I we keep it civil, thank you. Agschmid Oct 2015 #66

I have no animosity toward anyone who supports Hillary, that posts Autumn Oct 2015 #143

This is my favorite OP of the month. Puglover Oct 2015 #93

How much does that subscription cost annually? Agschmid Oct 2015 #96

Heh. Puglover Oct 2015 #105

That's not bad I'll even be able to afford it on my salary. Agschmid Oct 2015 #116

Yeah it's a good one Autumn Oct 2015 #154

Hillary Clinton vs Bernie Sanders bl968 Oct 2015 #72

. Agschmid Oct 2015 #76

Mutually incompatible bl968 Oct 2015 #81

And again we get personal. Agschmid Oct 2015 #82

We disagree on the relative value of your statement of choice of candidate bl968 Oct 2015 #88

So I'm a liar then? Agschmid Oct 2015 #90

You're not a liar, you just don't get it. Ron Green Oct 2015 #140

Well we feel the same... Agschmid Oct 2015 #160

Your innocuous observation got alerted on (I voted to Leave It of course). SunSeeker Oct 2015 #101

Thanks. Agschmid Oct 2015 #104

Wow.. now they're not even allowing to make the observation that someone is getting Cha Oct 2015 #133

You can go away now. leftofcool Oct 2015 #245

+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #102

It's been interesting reading your different posts, too, Agschmid.. we're fortunate to have you on Cha Oct 2015 #74

Me too! MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #77

Well all least we both can handle the heat. Agschmid Oct 2015 #87

Lol! You're killing me! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #108

You've been decidedly pro Clinton across this board Fearless Oct 2015 #78

A well thought out, and wise, decision. George II Oct 2015 #80

Great post. William769 Oct 2015 #84

Is he now allowed to go to The Political Pub? BeanMusical Oct 2015 #113

Yes he is. Autumn Oct 2015 #171

Oh wow! 99Forever Oct 2015 #86

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #95

This thread has mushroomed DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #109

A great decision. Glad to have you supporting Hillary. leftofcool Oct 2015 #110

Glad to have you on Team Hillary! BooScout Oct 2015 #114

I am happy aspirant Oct 2015 #117

Thanks. Agschmid Oct 2015 #119

I'm glad you're engaged in the process. lovemydog Oct 2015 #120

Luckily I'm close to NH so I get to be very involved! Agschmid Oct 2015 #127

That's great. I know you'll be kind toward lovemydog Oct 2015 #135

Sad choice, but it is yours to make. Bernie wins if you vote for him. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #124

Sad to see Bernie lose a supporter, and I disagree a bit on the issue of who can best win the WIProgressive88 Oct 2015 #125

Welcome. In solidarity riversedge Oct 2015 #134

:) Winning in 2016!! Duval Oct 2015 #136

There is a growing number of people who don't think like this anymore raindaddy Oct 2015 #138

Very thoughtful post raindaddy Caretha Oct 2015 #246

Thank you Caretha.. raindaddy Oct 2015 #261

Where have you "seen" Hillary three times in the past three weeks? (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #142

Well... Agschmid Oct 2015 #148

I don't keep up with her campaign schedule... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #166

One was an event, two were rallies/speeches. Agschmid Oct 2015 #168

In Texas, that's like driving from one county to another. okasha Oct 2015 #233

Thanks, I'll post pics next time I see her. Agschmid Oct 2015 #234

Does the new one work any better? jberryhill Oct 2015 #151

And by the "new one" you mean? Agschmid Oct 2015 #152

You said you changed your mind jberryhill Oct 2015 #153

I'll let you know in about a week. Agschmid Oct 2015 #155

Good point jberryhill Oct 2015 #156

Just as convincing as MineralMan's "conversion". nt Romulox Oct 2015 #157

Again I'm getting called a liar. Agschmid Oct 2015 #159

I think liar is a harsh word. artislife Oct 2015 #173

I respect your choice. Agschmid Oct 2015 #174

HA, I never knew you were NOT a Hillary supporter! m-lekktor Oct 2015 #167

You know the phrase about making assumptions? Agschmid Oct 2015 #169

Which is why many said WTF?! when he wanted to host the Bernie group. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #180

Again calling me a liar. Agschmid Oct 2015 #182

If I were to assign a descriptor, it would be that it's obviously theater. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #184

What's obvious? Agschmid Oct 2015 #186

You are too much. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #195

I never called him a liar, did I? AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #196

Serious? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #201

I wasn't here in 2004 and I supported Obama here in 2008, so your tizzy was for naught. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #206

You did. Agschmid Oct 2015 #203

I absolutely did not. Anybody with eyes can see that. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #205

Good I'm glad you ackowledged that I supported Bernie. Agschmid Oct 2015 #208

Never said that either. You might want to look into getting your eyes checked. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #210

No I'm good. Agschmid Oct 2015 #211

You rock. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #213

Another personal insult .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #212

+1 DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #214

This crap is so typical. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #215

"Help I'm being repressed": Clinton supporters' clarion call w/ pretzel declarations of victimhood. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #216

Keep digging. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #218

Never said what I'm being accused of, and anybody here can see that. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #222

Why do you give shit? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #229

you're soon getting alert stalked...... bettyellen Oct 2015 #254

I don't claim to be anyone's victim, especially not yours. Agschmid Oct 2015 #224

You've accused MANY people in this thread of calling you a liar, made up out of thin air. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #227

When you have people saying "I knew all along what you posted isn't actually what you thought"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #228

You're being monitored ... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #231

I'm not concerned. Agschmid Oct 2015 #232

ooo posting history .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #230

Uhmm...the triple-platinum version okasha Oct 2015 #237

Well there is an online poll ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #239

Lol! demmiblue Oct 2015 #170

bookmark this thread for proof of personal attacks on Hillary supporters. boston bean Oct 2015 #172

Oh hell yes ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #189

The irony would be funny if it wasn't so sad. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #204

Feel free to stalk me around the Internet. boston bean Oct 2015 #209

Don't flatter yourself. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #217

Oh oh oh oh .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #220

No but I can give you my grand mother's recipe. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #223

YUM!!!! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #225

So what? Very creepy behavior if you ask boston bean Oct 2015 #243

Sorry, I know what you are trying to do but I won't take the bait. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #249

No. Creepy behavior is creating another site to spew hatred toward this site and its members cui bono Oct 2015 #268

+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #288

Exactly... Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #273

Hi Jo! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #280

Speak of the devil.. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #281

Thank you! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #282

Hell, bookmark just about any thread. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #248

I am proud to stand with Agschmid. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #175

It's so telling .... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #177

So much for unconditional love? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #178

This. Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #190

I don't consider the attackers "supporters" of Sanders. joshcryer Oct 2015 #192

So with you on that Josh. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #193

and if you look at their posts before Sanders was running JI7 Oct 2015 #256

Just wait... joshcryer Oct 2015 #257

No one should support a candidate because they hate another one... Agschmid Oct 2015 #258

You, Agschmid are no liar. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #183

I've dealt with worse. Agschmid Oct 2015 #185

If you change your mind we will be disappointed but we won't pillory you... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #188

The hateful bitterness on this thread because someone sufrommich Oct 2015 #191

The divisiveness within their own camp... sheshe2 Oct 2015 #194

Why did you decide? Because you like her support of more H1b visas? More outsourcing? Support for peacebird Oct 2015 #202

I stand with her based on most of her policy positions. Agschmid Oct 2015 #207

For all the reasons stated in my other post I can never support Hillary. I don't think the middle peacebird Oct 2015 #263

Great decision. K&R Kang Colby Oct 2015 #226

There is no 'win' with hillary. bowens43 Oct 2015 #235

I feel differently. Agschmid Oct 2015 #238

Well, there's a Wall Street win and a corporate win with Hillary senz Oct 2015 #240

I'm rooting for a win against republicans. Agschmid Oct 2015 #241

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #251

That's fine. People change their minds. closeupready Oct 2015 #259

Thanks for your words. Agschmid Oct 2015 #260

In good company shivors Oct 2015 #277

Can you please include the missing information from the table you've included in your post? Agschmid Oct 2015 #278

jury results restorefreedom Oct 2015 #279

Dear juror 3, this just *isn't* the facts. Agschmid Oct 2015 #284