2016 Postmortem

askew

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92. No. Just no.

Reply to ProudToBeLiberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:57 PM

Apr 2016

Obama is the most successful progressive presidential candidate we've had in decades.

Hillary is a compulsive liar who say whatever gets her elected and never in her career has she been a successful leader. A follower and a failure, yes. A successful leader, no.

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Hillary Clinton is one of the most progressive presidential candidates we've had in a long time [View all] ProudToBeLiberal Apr 2016 OP

We are making history pandr32 Apr 2016 #1

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She's a little bit more than just a successful man's wife Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #14

Good god, who ARE these people? Squinch Apr 2016 #19

that's easy, Repugnants. Democrats they certainly are NOT. Bill USA Apr 2016 #115

Way to go in the in touch with reality department! Arneoker Apr 2016 #175

Wow, that was...quite something. auntpurl Apr 2016 #39

Clearly, athena Apr 2016 #69

Boom! pandr32 Apr 2016 #85

she will be impeached 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #112

Dumb dumb dumb. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #154

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in fact, I would put her right up there with Obama! yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #2

Heh. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #76

Most of us know. It's why she's winning so handily. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #3

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Other than war.... qdouble Apr 2016 #7

She just says what she thinks people want to hear arikara Apr 2016 #22

She's very progressive qdouble Apr 2016 #32

Wars and fracking arikara Apr 2016 #49

Once again, qdouble Apr 2016 #59

These are the important issues arikara Apr 2016 #71

I'm not saying that you don't have any valid criticisms of Hillary qdouble Apr 2016 #73

Yes I concede that you have a point arikara Apr 2016 #98

so do only you get to make that analysis dsc Apr 2016 #139

Well I guess you missed the part where I said: arikara Apr 2016 #143

fine that is fair dsc Apr 2016 #144

That cuts both ways arikara Apr 2016 #153

Is burning coal preferable to fracking? If so why? Arneoker Apr 2016 #183

Is this a high school exam? arikara Apr 2016 #184

What murder of innocents are you talking about? Arneoker Apr 2016 #182

No timmymoff Apr 2016 #157

Your DNA, Hillary's DNA and mine 99%+ match that of Trump Fumesucker Apr 2016 #106

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Really? Do you actually want to go there? blackspade Apr 2016 #68

War is kind of a big thing to take out of the equation. Svafa Apr 2016 #79

Another lo poster for Bernie redstateblues Apr 2016 #35

"Let us not dismiss Obama just because he is an African American"?? auntpurl Apr 2016 #41

Methinks this is clearly a trolling troll trolling. Squinch Apr 2016 #117

Was just about to ask the SAME DAMN QUESTION Number23 Apr 2016 #156

Iraq, Iran, Syria, Honduras, Libya, Palestine farleftlib Apr 2016 #6

A very succinct summary. think Apr 2016 #56

But, but, but .........your just making that up! Phlem Apr 2016 #77

This. Svafa Apr 2016 #78

+ another one nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #101

And, let's not forget, in favor of the fucking death penalty!!! Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #186

Labeling right-wing Hillary s progressive only moves the conversation further right. Broward Apr 2016 #8

Another bullshit smear. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress. redstateblues Apr 2016 #38

There's right and there's far right. Educate yourself. Broward Apr 2016 #42

Oh, yes, of course. That must be why Koch finds her conservative enough to get his vote. JudyM Apr 2016 #51

No, his standard is sanity. Trump and Cruz don't meet the basic test. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #91

Clearly her positions are consistent enough with his if he would vote for her. Meanwhile, JudyM Apr 2016 #99

Anyone who thinks that Trump would be no worse than Hillary can let that happen pnwmom Apr 2016 #100

A choice of right of center, and another one that's a bit further right of center? byyiminy Apr 2016 #104

Welcome to DU, byyiminy! JudyM Apr 2016 #111

In the Senate Hillary and Bernie voted together 93% of the time. pnwmom Apr 2016 #114

That is such a meaningless statistic! Beowulf Apr 2016 #125

This isn't about judging them, it's about seeing a clear indicator of her lack of progressiveness. JudyM Apr 2016 #109

! Phlem Apr 2016 #81

* libtodeath Apr 2016 #9

Satire, right? HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #10

Has to be... haikugal Apr 2016 #13

Third-Way Manny has a sock! /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #34

I think this is the positive CTR spin cycle we are seeing. Kittycat Apr 2016 #106

I'm still wondering how I fell off the turnip truck... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #170

yeah...right. yuiyoshida Apr 2016 #28

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Another new lo poster for Bernie!! redstateblues Apr 2016 #40

Thanks, needed a good laugh this morning! sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #12

Someone needs to tell Obama he should have talked about racism before Hillary. B Calm Apr 2016 #15

That's a pretty low bar... Armstead Apr 2016 #16

K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #17

Oh yes, sexism and racism are the critical issues in my life coyote Apr 2016 #18

They might be if you were black or a woman. auntpurl Apr 2016 #43

Of course they are. coyote Apr 2016 #61

Is that so? auntpurl Apr 2016 #63

Do you think the top 1% worry about issues such as sexism, racism, religion etc? coyote Apr 2016 #64

You literally said racism and sexism were a distraction. auntpurl Apr 2016 #65

Hmm. coyote Apr 2016 #66

Then let's not be divided gollygee Apr 2016 #142

And yet you dismiss them out of hand? GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #172

Yes. Divide and conquer Svafa Apr 2016 #82

Here's the problem with what you just said. hollowdweller Apr 2016 #20

From another board I frequent: cloudbase Apr 2016 #21

Another bullshit smear. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress. redstateblues Apr 2016 #44

And again: why does Koch favor her? JudyM Apr 2016 #52

Koch is Koch Frances Apr 2016 #57

There are also plenty of liberal progressives who hate her. JudyM Apr 2016 #62

I think they are ill informed Frances Apr 2016 #74

LOL! Seriously!? Now *there's* a twist: those paying attention to The Facts are ill-informed! JudyM Apr 2016 #96

LMFAO!! Dem2 Apr 2016 #87

A man whose life is about entrenching conservative politicians in government knows a conservative JudyM Apr 2016 #95

Yes you are very hilarious Dem2 Apr 2016 #134

Um, no, you are wrong about that. There are differences between her and them. JudyM Apr 2016 #140

Too much internet Dem2 Apr 2016 #141

You assume I have insufficiently educated myself about this. Again, you are incorrect. JudyM Apr 2016 #145

Just the opposite Dem2 Apr 2016 #147

Ok, it's probably neither particularly wise nor worth it to go here, but in terms of opinions, JudyM Apr 2016 #150

OK Dem2 Apr 2016 #151

That is such a meaningless statement. Beowulf Apr 2016 #132

Those are great issues but if she allows her friends in the Wealthy 1% to continue to rhett o rick Apr 2016 #23

Exactly! great post B Calm Apr 2016 #25

+1 Martin Eden Apr 2016 #37

Platitudes about racism and sexism are not policy nt Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #24

Exactly Svafa Apr 2016 #83

She's fine with keeping marijuana illegal, though black people are 4 times more likely to get-- eridani Apr 2016 #161

Then that's not saying much is it? KPN Apr 2016 #26

proving once more that you can fool some of the people all the time. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #27

and Bernie sure has with all his promises redstateblues Apr 2016 #45

She's almost as progressive as Richard Nixon. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #29

Almost. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #93

! Fuddnik Apr 2016 #30

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Both President Obama and Secretary Kerry are more progressive and liberal than HRC - the last 2 karynnj Apr 2016 #33

Kerry was first to speak out against environmentalism racism. blm Apr 2016 #86

Sigh. The new dems have the party right where they want it RedCappedBandit Apr 2016 #36

If you repeat a lie enough times, Doctor_J Apr 2016 #46

She's great on civil rights. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #47

Democratic voters love marijuana legalization. Hillary Clinton doesn't. B Calm Apr 2016 #48

It's actually highly likely to be in the platform. joshcryer Apr 2016 #108

Right now she's wishy washy. B Calm Apr 2016 #113

That's what you want. joshcryer Apr 2016 #116

Not me. Too many people are suffering that could be helped B Calm Apr 2016 #119

We legalized in my state... joshcryer Apr 2016 #121

Only because of the Sanders delegates n/t eridani Apr 2016 #162

Which I sent? joshcryer Apr 2016 #163

I do know she has to hire cliffordu Apr 2016 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author cliffordu Apr 2016 #53

All great points!! K&R!! Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #54

Funny which issues she took up... the first two were - sorry - peculiarly strategic in this primary. JudyM Apr 2016 #55

The chocolate ration has been increased from ten to five grams weekly. n/t QC Apr 2016 #58

LOL! vintx Apr 2016 #60

She is a Johnny-come-lately to all these issues. blackspade Apr 2016 #67

"What's more wonderful and surprising is that (discussion on race) coming from a white person." ieoeja Apr 2016 #70

NOT! kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #72

Try to say IWR vote and "Progressive" at the same time. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #75

Except for foreign policy, but that's just a minor issue, right? N/T actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #80

so NOT TRUE. John Poet Apr 2016 #84

She most certainly is. No matter how much some of our peers want to deny it. Lucinda Apr 2016 #88

She's many things, but progressive is not one of them. Vinca Apr 2016 #89

Apparently you haven't bothered to read her website because she explains exactly pnwmom Apr 2016 #94

That's a bald face lie. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #90

No. Just no. askew Apr 2016 #92

. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #97

Yep! pantsonfire Apr 2016 #102

The country as a whole has shifted left. joshcryer Apr 2016 #103

If she is the most progressive candidate in a long time, that don't look good on Obama. B Calm Apr 2016 #105

Does "progressive" equate with a fondness for military intervention? guillaumeb Apr 2016 #110

She is indeed mcar Apr 2016 #118

She is fairly good on social domestic issues, Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #120

..and Santa truly exists Rass Apr 2016 #122

As I tell my students, declaring something repeatedly does not make it true. bjo59 Apr 2016 #123

Tool of Wall St. is progressive-who woulda thunk it? hobbit709 Apr 2016 #124

And I am Sasquatch's mistress. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #126

So many things to love about this post! .. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #127

She's to the right of Obama, which is one of the reasons Obama defeated her in 2008. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2016 #129

Obama did all that runaway hero Apr 2016 #131

ahem DonCoquixote Apr 2016 #133

What gun control TeddyR Apr 2016 #135

No one who has carefully looked at her record thinks she's progressive jfern Apr 2016 #136

Goodness knows the right wingers hate her. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #137

I can't think of a single issue TeddyR Apr 2016 #138

Me neither senseandsensibility Apr 2016 #155

Nothing says progressivism like outlawing flag burning! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #146

LOL, is this a joke post? nt Logical Apr 2016 #148

not progressive at all; just the opposite; fracking, FTAs, Border Walls, Libya, Coal Plants, etc.... amborin Apr 2016 #149

Sure.....except for the one thing that is the most critical in this point in history.... seekthetruth Apr 2016 #152

You can tell a nerve was hit from the Podium Bird Land freak out in this post uponit7771 Apr 2016 #158

LOL actually we think the OP has been snorting fairy tale dust. B Calm Apr 2016 #164

Fairy dust equals Sanders has a practical path to winning the nomination uponit7771 Apr 2016 #171

#HillarySoProgressive pinebox Apr 2016 #159

Boy--putting millions of black people in jail is a great way to protest systemic racism. eridani Apr 2016 #160

The Clintons did say "My bad, y'all!"... While taking private prison lobby money. KeepItReal Apr 2016 #169

Yes--Bill did. Then backed off while defending the term "superpredators" n/t eridani Apr 2016 #174

I'm pretty sure "progressive" doesn't mean what you think it does. Scuba Apr 2016 #165

And yet loyalsister Apr 2016 #166

Yeah, but nobody trusts her hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #167

disgusting what counts for "progressive" these days. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #168

How many mentions of systemic racism and white privilege will she utter after July 28th? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #173

I learned something new today! democrank Apr 2016 #176

She's a war criminal. Old Union Guy Apr 2016 #177

Well... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #178

If you genuinely think Hillary Clinton is a progressive then I have a bridge in Alaska to sell you.. Kentonio Apr 2016 #179

Ah, the infamous Bridge to Nowhere! Herman4747 Apr 2016 #180

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Boy, Opposite Day comes around more and more frequently, it seems... Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #185

Have to Rec it. Excellent post. nt BootinUp Apr 2016 #187