2016 Postmortem

serbbral

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63. @ TheBlackAdder

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:57 PM

Feb 2016

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You have essentially confirmed exactly how I am feeling at the moment. At this time, I am not 100% certain of whom I am going to vote for, although I am leaning more toward Bernie. Hillary left a BAD taste in my mouth after the 2008 campaign. I lost some respect for her and Bill after that.

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King: The idea of an African-American firewall for Hillary Clinton is deeply insulting [View all] eridani Feb 2016 OP

Wow, powerful stuff in that piece! How to get the word out in time? kath Feb 2016 #1

Trying to divide the black population to pay for your FREE stuff. Shame on you. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #18

Which candidate are Hillary's "super-predators" supporting? Fumesucker Feb 2016 #22

You should post that on Facebook notadmblnd Feb 2016 #84

Yes. We must bring THEM to heel. pangaia Feb 2016 #92

I believe you dropped this.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #23

Her divisive posture on Obama, MLK, Jessie Jackson, Rev. Wright, and others weren't enough? TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #32

@ TheBlackAdder serbbral Feb 2016 #63

I'm neutral, but being a poli-sci continuing ed student, I'm seeing things that are affecting that! TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #66

This might be a simple. naive suggestion, pangaia Feb 2016 #96

Indeed! Nedsdag Feb 2016 #80

k&r demosocialist Feb 2016 #128

I miss Olbermann. Thank goodness Bernie saved us from being stuck with Hillary johnlucas Feb 2016 #121

YOUR FREE STUFF DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #132

If Hillary can lose half the white vote, I'm sure shes quite capable of losing half the black vote! reformist2 Feb 2016 #2

Well...there is that! artislife Feb 2016 #38

Just invite her to your community. Eventually she alienates everyone who isn't exactly like her. reformist2 Feb 2016 #46

So true. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #3

Oops. Black voters taken for granted? They are not stupid. thereismore Feb 2016 #4

Excellent article. Autumn Feb 2016 #5

Oh, c'mon. This author is obviously a shill for Battling Bernie. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #6

as a woman of color, i don't hopemountain Feb 2016 #13

Its late and maybe I'm not as clever as I think I am mikehiggins Feb 2016 #19

thanks for replying hopemountain Feb 2016 #27

@Mikehiggins serbbral Feb 2016 #64

knr nt slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #7

That last paragraph that quotes the author, uh oh. m-lekktor Feb 2016 #8

I've often wondered if the support Team Hill is claiming is there Hydra Feb 2016 #9

Support and name recognition are two very different things n/t eridani Feb 2016 #10

OK, this was new for me and I'm not happy about it. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #11

Of course, authority first Hydra Feb 2016 #12

And I've been jumped on for calling her an authoritarian. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #15

I've been jumped on for being against torture here Hydra Feb 2016 #16

Hey, I willingly wear that proud mantle too! passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #17

Whoa. Thanks, pp. senz Feb 2016 #20

That's the mindset that gave us the term "Urban Pacification"..... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #24

That is new to me as well and I thought I had heard it all coming from her. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #25

Why won't Hillary release her transcripts? oasis Feb 2016 #82

At least she is honest about it in that clip..good to know. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #95

Addressing the causes though takes empathy and might not be profitable in the short term. polly7 Feb 2016 #98

WOW!!! Hillary is Done! This is the Age of the Internet! Can't hide behind lies anymore johnlucas Feb 2016 #124

I don't do social media, but feel free to use it! passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #125

Then email it. Make homemade CDs. Play it on your phone for somebody. We gotta spread this message! johnlucas Feb 2016 #126

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #14

K&R senz Feb 2016 #21

Michelle Alexander zentrum Feb 2016 #26

Hearing her speak on tour when this book came out was a major highlight for me that year eridani Feb 2016 #28

The depth... zentrum Feb 2016 #62

I have it on my kindle but haven't read it yet! nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #33

Exactly What I Thought billhicks76 Feb 2016 #29

Can't wait to see how this one will be explained away by her supporters. PonyUp Feb 2016 #30

HillaryClintonSupporters.com? in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #94

Either there, or at Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #159

well one in this thread claimed that "super predators" was taken out of context. So there is that. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #137

Major crack in the 'firewall' Dems to Win Feb 2016 #31

It is sad :( Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #34

Only if you are voting for Sanders. bravenak Feb 2016 #35

If she addresses their concerns, why can't she come out with a social justice platform jeff47 Feb 2016 #36

If he does why is he polling so poorly? bravenak Feb 2016 #37

So why can't she use that relationship to create a social justice platform that passess muster? (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #39

Is BLM the final arbiter of all things black? hack89 Feb 2016 #40

No, but wouldn't someone with such a strong relationship be able to satisfy them? (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #44

Don't know. They appear to be a very diverse and non-centralized group hack89 Feb 2016 #49

Yet the candidate without that relationship has produced a plan they approve of jeff47 Feb 2016 #51

Why don't you ask the AA community? hack89 Feb 2016 #55

It's a political discussion board. jeff47 Feb 2016 #60

Whatever. Bernie clearly has a problem he needs to fix hack89 Feb 2016 #61

@ hack89 serbbral Feb 2016 #67

Really? Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #114

The question is are YOU that uninformed?............ serbbral Feb 2016 #138

I quote you: Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #140

LOL!!!!!!! serbbral Feb 2016 #161

There is lingering goodwill for Bill Clinton cheapdate Feb 2016 #116

For the record, Bernie has all kinds of community relationships Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #115

I'm aware. My goal was to get more than platitudes from those other posters jeff47 Feb 2016 #117

I understand. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #120

Hillary Clinton definitely has a relationship... MellowDem Feb 2016 #72

Sounds like the other candidate! bravenak Feb 2016 #73

Bernie Sanders? MellowDem Feb 2016 #83

Least she can do, really. bravenak Feb 2016 #86

If you think... MellowDem Feb 2016 #97

Yes. Exactly. bravenak Feb 2016 #100

On what issues does she resonate with you over Sanders? You do realize that she supports rhett o rick Feb 2016 #103

He voted Yes on mass incarceration bravenak Feb 2016 #104

Your response says a lot. You did not say anything about what issues that you rhett o rick Feb 2016 #105

They care equally bravenak Feb 2016 #106

Good grief and she is more prone to support laws that will encarcerate AA. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #109

I would look at the big picture but the condescending lectures have blinded me. bravenak Feb 2016 #110

So your closed mindedness and knowledge deficit are somebody else's fault. bvar22 Feb 2016 #122

Why would you say that to me? A knowledge deficit? bravenak Feb 2016 #123

How did he lecture you? He just asked a question ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #133

I done got a thousand lectures this primary. bravenak Feb 2016 #134

Could it be that people are trying to provide political information on a political message board? Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #135

Naw. Why would that be it? Sounds crazy to me. bravenak Feb 2016 #136

And it was just a few months ago that you said you would NEVER forgive Hillary cali Feb 2016 #42

And then there are the PMs where she said she was just pretending to like Hillary. kath Feb 2016 #54

The BLM stuff was worse. bravenak Feb 2016 #57

BeahahahAhaha. Hillary is the one that threatened BLM activists cali Feb 2016 #101

Bernie did... NOTHING. bravenak Feb 2016 #102

Given that it wan't his event, it wasn't any of his business to do anything eridani Feb 2016 #145

No. I dont bravenak Feb 2016 #146

Not at an event beloning to a coalition of organizations. eridani Feb 2016 #148

Ok he can only fight when the time is right bravenak Feb 2016 #149

"Fighting" = pre-empting and running roughshod over an independent organization's-- eridani Feb 2016 #151

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What has she done to address issues in the Black community DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #43

She hires. bravenak Feb 2016 #71

She also cluster bombs them Arazi Feb 2016 #74

None of that has anything to do with my subject. bravenak Feb 2016 #75

Still deflecting and refusing to answer I see Arazi Feb 2016 #77

And still here. bravenak Feb 2016 #78

I'm disabled for a while so I've got oodles of time Arazi Feb 2016 #81

Sorry you're in pain. bravenak Feb 2016 #87

Yes I knew it was mean Bernie supporters Arazi Feb 2016 #89

I just like rubbing it in that black votes matter. bravenak Feb 2016 #91

Well rub away. They do matter and it bears repeating eom Arazi Feb 2016 #99

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Or in 1992 When bernie voted yes on the crime bill? bravenak Feb 2016 #156

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Oooooh! bravenak Feb 2016 #160

She puts up a good front. But she supports the rich and the rich are the ones that have created rhett o rick Feb 2016 #107

I guess he should have thought of optics. bravenak Feb 2016 #108

Do you understand that we are involved in a class war and Hillary Clinton and her $50,000,000 rhett o rick Feb 2016 #111

I understand we are involved in a fight against white supremacist beliefs and the system bravenak Feb 2016 #112

If you were looking to get hired by the Sanders campaign sahel Feb 2016 #127

Hillary said black youth need to be "brought to heel" Arazi Feb 2016 #45

I accept her apology. bravenak Feb 2016 #47

Can you provide evidence of that apology? Arazi Feb 2016 #50

You can find it. It's easy! bravenak Feb 2016 #52

Nope. Didn't come up on google. You'll need to provide that please Arazi Feb 2016 #53

No thanks! bravenak Feb 2016 #56

She never apologized and you're making it up that she did Arazi Feb 2016 #58

Whatevs. bravenak Feb 2016 #59

On another thread, we were discussing the crime bill... thesquanderer Feb 2016 #76

Fiiiiiiiine! God! Sheesh! bravenak Feb 2016 #79

King seems to know more about this than you do. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #143

Yeah right bravenak Feb 2016 #144

There are valid reasons why many African American and other voters do not support Sanders Gothmog Feb 2016 #41

We notice he has issues with Obama and does not seems pleased with his presidency bravenak Feb 2016 #48

With Prof. West as a surrogate, it is not hard to miss Gothmog Feb 2016 #69

West is the worst surrogate for him to make inroads with us bravenak Feb 2016 #70

I agree Gothmog Feb 2016 #129

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President Obama is NOT a progressive! So why on Earth should Bernie be expected to call him one? Utopian Leftist Feb 2016 #65

Sanders can call President Obama anything he wants to call him Gothmog Feb 2016 #68

I do not consider Obama a "bad" President, myself. Utopian Leftist Feb 2016 #85

The preception is that many Sanders supporters and surrogates do not share your view Gothmog Feb 2016 #88

@ Gothmog serbbral Feb 2016 #139

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #90

Preach it! avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #93

K&R liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #113

K&R Duval Feb 2016 #118

That's got to sting Babel_17 Feb 2016 #119

Do you want to predict the results in South Carolina? Gothmog Feb 2016 #130

Someone in Bernie's campaign watoos Feb 2016 #131

Apparently, black people like privatized prisons eridani Feb 2016 #147

kickety-kick kath Feb 2016 #141

Kick. Since HRC only got 52% of the POC vote yesterday kath Feb 2016 #142

agree mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #150

K&R dchill Feb 2016 #152