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In reply to the discussion: Why did Sanders wait until we have a black president to cast blame and start his "revolution"? [View all]UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)137. Are some racist? Sure. Just like some Hillary voters are.
You have racist Dems I'm sure for Bernie and Hillary. I think the contempt I've seen from many Bernie supporters toward Black voters is a type of white privilege elitist liberalism. They are good with the Black voters who tow the line and support Bernie, but have major contempt for the ones who support Hillary Clinton. You support Bernie for your reasons and they will support Hillary for theirs. Leave it at that. The last thing I want to hear from a white person is what is in my best interest cuz you don't have a fucking clue. Stay in your damn lane.
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Why did Sanders wait until we have a black president to cast blame and start his "revolution"? [View all]
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
OP
Actually he dosnt have a point. He is just stating his fantasies and imaginations as facts. eom.
Jemmons
Apr 2016
#13
I'm very much a "girl". And what facts have I gotten wrong? Please do tell in your infinite wisdom.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#21
It's called drawing a conclusion from the facts that ARE in evidence. Now ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#46
I suspect that you know this. But in case you dont: If you had paid attention you would not have
Jemmons
Apr 2016
#50
Look: You have been member here a long long time. I dont understand your choice
Jemmons
Apr 2016
#58
Do you then honestly think that anyone would care to call Sanders a racist if he wasnt running for
Jemmons
Apr 2016
#64
You are posting in the African American Group. I started this OP in the AA Group. We here have had
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#101
Liberal_Stalwart has made it crystal DAMNED clear in her OP what her concerns are
Number23
Apr 2016
#121
No, I was asking a question, which I think is a valid question. Why did Sanders wait until NOW
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#70
Two Issues: First, timing -- why is Bernie Sanders Running Now? and Second, Bernie Sanders on race
cloudythescribbler
Apr 2016
#114
I am from MA, and as of 2004, Kennedy was the more progressive senator
cloudythescribbler
Apr 2016
#172
Oh yeah, most of his constituents are white. All the more reason why he doesn't deserve the votes
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#71
Liberal_Stalwart has been and even in this OP is as critical of Hillary as she is of Sanders
Number23
Apr 2016
#122
He's been awfully timid with his revolution from 1968 until Obama became President
beastie boy
Apr 2016
#44
Thank you! My criticism of BS is similar to that of Nader. He didn't build a party, even as an
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#69
Thank you. They are feigning ignorance. They know damn well what I'm talking about. ;)
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#154
The point again: He should have been building relationships with black voters for all those years.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#72
Fuck that! Being a senator from Vermont does not mean that he could not have begun building
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#157
Sanders loves to point to Medicare/caid and Social Security as two very successful socialist
stopbush
Apr 2016
#113
I guess it's the same reason he sends out his Naderite surrogates like Paul Song, Susan
Tanuki
Apr 2016
#5
Yeah, I know. I'm going to vote today. When I stated that April 26th can't come fast enough...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#8
Much appreciated. Thank you so much for being honest and fair. You stated some points that attracted
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#10
Bernie didn't start his revolution in 2008. He's been at it a long time.
All in it together
Apr 2016
#24
Again, if he did have a revolution, that didn't involve black voters. WHY? Black voters, by and
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#73
Ding...ding..ding! That whole West and Smiley endorsement raised red flags for me! Sour grapes!n/t
KelleyD
Apr 2016
#110
Be careful the last person to say they never saw him got attacked horrendously.
Amimnoch
Apr 2016
#27
I think he has been fighting the good fight for decades... why he waited til now to bring it to the
secondwind
Apr 2016
#12
I've followed Sanders' career for decades myself, always in awe of him and jealous that other Dems
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#17
He was less known NOW! What's the difference? If one is a change agent, one is a change agent
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#18
He has NOT done that. Not at all. If he did, more black people would know him. And I have been
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#22
It's your opinion. I won't go into this, but I worked on Capitol Hill for several decades.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#76
A "Washington Insider" or the vast majority of black and Hispanic voters in every single primary
Number23
Apr 2016
#123
LOL!! If I'm a Washington Insider, then Bernie is, too! He's been in this town a lot longer than I.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#155
Since you've followed Bernie's career so closely since he first arrived in Washington
tk2kewl
Apr 2016
#162
Your reading skills are quite subpar. Again, if Sanders cared so much about black folk, he
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#163
What evidence? He fucking marched and was arrested. So fucking what??
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#165
According to you. He think he and his surrogates have issued subtle bigoted statements. Yes. Is he a
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#19
One can use dog whistle tactics that are racially insensitive in nature and not necessarily be a
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#78
I think he's made subtle and explicit racist statements about black voters in the American South.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#81
Paul Wellstone and Denis Kucinich were indeed revolutionaries. Sanders just yelled and screamed
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#85
I'm so sorry the BSrs Hid you out of your own thread in the AA Group, LS! Now I know
Cha
Apr 2016
#196
This OP is about Bernie Sanders. If you can't answer the question, that's o.k. Sanders can't either.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#86
Aloha, pandr.. I just made a post that I know now she can't respond to b/c BSrs Hid her out of her
Cha
Apr 2016
#197
till the Black president brought this country to a stable situation, no one would risk a revolution
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#37
Come on, we both know why. And just FYI "the revolution".....it's bullshit.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2016
#39
...and yet, you didn't answer the OP's question. Didn't even attempt. Just resorts to bashing the
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#88
If you shit on black voters and the black president, you will lose. Sanders is learning this lesson.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#158
What does citizens united have to do with the black president? And you proved my point...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#89
There is so much wrong with your post, I don't know where to start. Then I saw how many hides
FailureToCommunicate
Apr 2016
#51
I don't give a damn about HIDES! Don't be silly or childish. I speak my mind.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#90
Your response just confirms what I wrote. Were you too busy to read it? That's fine, I can
FailureToCommunicate
Apr 2016
#120
Typical. This post is about Sanders. Not Hillary. If you can't direct your comments to the OP, then
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#140
I would say this group doesnt have to look far at all to find racist intent, not with
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#62
"but the reason she does has much more to do with those surrounding and supporting Berne"
Number23
Apr 2016
#124
Since we disgust and bother you so much, PLEASE don't feel like you have to come here and respond
Number23
Apr 2016
#125
I dont agree or believe Bernie is responding now because Obama is black, but I do
Actor
Apr 2016
#112
The president accomplished so much more than most people realize, and he did so in
Actor
Apr 2016
#119
Brilliant, brilliant analysis!!! I love this! Truthful, honest and reasonable.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#91
You only have 22 posts, sweetheart. You know nothing about me. But, carry on...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#93
That old "he marched with MLK" crap has been tossed around so much as some sort of substitute for
Number23
Apr 2016
#149
I'm sorry the 60's civil rights movement doesn't carry much water for you
davenelson5555
Apr 2016
#150
The idea that someone doing the "he marched with MLK while Hillary was a Goldwater girl" spiel
Number23
Apr 2016
#167
Sanders marching was admirable but I don't understand why you are acting like what he
Number23
Apr 2016
#170
He did more than simply join the March on Washington, but you know that.
davenelson5555
Apr 2016
#171
"chained, beaten and arrested" too bad that only one of those things is actually true
Number23
Apr 2016
#175
No one has said his reactions aren't worth a damn. But his actions don't make him some great
Number23
Apr 2016
#180
He should have run against the president in 2012. He was calling for him to be primaried. Why not
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#97
Sanders has no respect for President Obama and wants to throw away Obama's legacy
Gothmog
Apr 2016
#98
Hmmmm....interesting. What an opportune time, then. Welp, good luck to him, then.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#104
I don't think Bernie is racist. I do think some of his campaign people and many of his . . .
brush
Apr 2016
#115
Why did Occupy Wall Street wait until we had a black prez to organize against greed and corruption?
Dems to Win
Apr 2016
#117
He already answered. Told me that my family's vote in the American South mean nothing.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#183
The "Southern votes don't count but YEAARRRGGH Wyoming!!11" posts would give any thinking person
Number23
Apr 2016
#131
Yes !! If Sanders had any real track record of leading people wouldn't have to get to know him
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#147
An intelligent response! Thank you! I used to listen to "Brunch with Bernie" for years. I purchased
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#139
DING DING DING !! I posted something similar to this before reading this thread. GREAT MINDS!!!
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#143
I thought he probably thought it was a good time because of Occupy Wall Street
gollygee
Apr 2016
#146
What utter bullshit! The idea that Bernie announced at this time because Obama is AA.
Akamai
Apr 2016
#156
Ask Sanders to build his coalition of blacks, Hispanics, women and people of all walks of life...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#160
"The cradle of the Civil Rights Movement is in the American South." PREACH IT!! TELL THESE PEOPLE
Number23
Apr 2016
#168
He made a ton of mistakes. Too many of his most ardent followers or supporters look and sound
Actor
Apr 2016
#182
You wrote: And, I think most anger at him, like in this thread, is actually at his supporters.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#184
I completely understand. Maybe i discounted the alienation done by Bernie himself, whether
Actor
Apr 2016
#185
Interesting, huh, the president who was successful in getting healthcare through congress, go figure
Thinkingabout
Apr 2016
#176
Less to do with Obama being black and shifting to the right significantly after "Hope & Change"
aikoaiko
Apr 2016
#187
That he blames Obama for not deliverings "effective" Hope and Change the way YOU and Sanders wanted
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#191
when I have time I will, but even if she hates Clintons with the heat of a 1000 suns
aikoaiko
Apr 2016
#204
Excellent Question, LS.. and one the members of The Obama Diary have been asking, too.
Cha
Apr 2016
#195
Listen, we all thought Obama would govern like a Progressive, those who believed in him anyway,
highprincipleswork
Apr 2016
#203
First of all, thank you for your kind words. I feel a little silly, because I did not fully realize
highprincipleswork
Apr 2016
#209
Oh boo hoo.. President Obama is Progressive. Progressive means getting things done and that's
Cha
Apr 2016
#208
I know, DP.. they all have the same mantra.. "disappointed".. BS actually used that word when
Cha
Apr 2016
#214
His actual success, especially in light of the outrageous obstruction, is monumental.
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#212