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In reply to the discussion: The Lie of Self Defense [View all]

COLGATE4

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33. Absolutely.
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:16 AM
Mar 2012

Last edited Sun Mar 18, 2012, 04:06 PM - Edit history (2)

After all, who could possibly fault a middle-age cop wannabe (Major in Criminal Justice, very active in 'patrolling' in his Neighborhood watch, calling cops 24/7 on all matter of 'suspicious persons') from blowing away an unarmed teenager? I mean, just because he pursued the kid in his car and, disregarding 911 instructions then got out of his car to confront him is just what any rational law-abiding adult would do. In fact, maybe the kid was only 1/2 black - that probably explains it. And it's pretty clear from the evidence so far that the teenager was clearly the agressor, putting Zimmerman in fear for his life when he probably cut Zimmerman on the back of his (Zimmerman's) head with the sharp edge of the Skittles pack. After all, Zimmerman has no history of violent behavior (oh, whoops - I guess he did have a little violence problem with the cops in the past - but no matter. I'm sure it's not relevant here, at least that's what the local cops decided). It's a crystal-clear case of 'stand your ground', as far as I can see.

The Lie of Self Defense [View all] fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 OP
this one case does not gejohnston Mar 2012 #1
I would ask why the neighborhood watch isn't in pairs. socialindependocrat Mar 2012 #2
Here's Another One You Didn't Bring Up fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #3
Actually gejohnston Mar 2012 #4
Ok fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #6
George Zimmerman is the son of a white parent and an hispanic parent thus the name Zimmerman lunasun Mar 2012 #8
Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #11
Often you get whoever signs up to do the job. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #43
How ironic.. pipoman Mar 2012 #5
Isn't That What a Gun is For fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #7
No, it isn't pipoman Mar 2012 #9
Oh Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #10
A jury is a trier of fact. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #14
Incredibly insensitive, utterly devoid of empathy? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #15
Telling.. pipoman Mar 2012 #19
Facts Not in Evidence fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #22
No disputing that if someone does error pipoman Mar 2012 #23
Funny fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #27
What a bunch of pious garbage. Straw Man Mar 2012 #44
Yes. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #41
I have worked on many, many defense teams, but again not in capacity of attorney pipoman Mar 2012 #20
Or Survivors fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #21
I'm sure survivors of criminal acts against innocent people do agree with your position.. pipoman Mar 2012 #25
I know they do. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #29
I will add nuance to the list of things you don't understand. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #42
PS fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #24
Nope, got it wrong again. Straw Man Mar 2012 #45
Because one person is falsely claiming self-defense does not... GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #12
Nah fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #16
Lots of speculation there. Assumes many things as facts that are presently uncertain. slackmaster Mar 2012 #13
Was the use of force necessary? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #17
My answer to your question is "I don't have enough information to give a meaningful answer." slackmaster Mar 2012 #35
Should he have obeyed the police instructions to stay in his car? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #37
That was a suggestion by a 911 operator, not "police instructions" so your question is loaded slackmaster Mar 2012 #38
You do know that 911 operators are the police in most jurisdictions. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #39
No, I don't believe that is the case slackmaster Mar 2012 #40
anecdotes are not considered to be scientific evidence Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #18
Zimmerman is the poster boy of gun-toting shoot 'em up vigilante racists everywhere jpak Mar 2012 #26
Agree fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #31
He's part white of course he's racist...that's a given right. I thought gunz killed people? ileus Mar 2012 #28
Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #30
This is a racists, anti-gun propaganga piece at best DWC Mar 2012 #32
Absolutely. COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #33
Well Said fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #36
Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #34
3. Martin has no criminal record. ellisonz Mar 2012 #46
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