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COMALite J

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32. In fairness to Carson, he did NOT claim to have APPLIED FOR a West Point scholarship.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 01:52 AM
Nov 2015

He merely claimed to have been offered one, on Memorial Day by General Westmoreland.

At the time, West Point did indeed use the term “scholarship” to describe the free ride they offer to all of their prospective students (in return for a commitment to serve in the military after graduation or otherwise leaving West Point — failure to do so puts the student on the hook for tuition and other costs accrued during their stay there) in their official marketing materials. He claims to have turned down the offer so that he could study medicine at Yale (despite the fact that West Point has a very good pre-med program and would also have paid for his medical school, since the military needs competent medics), so the lack of any record of him applying in no way contradicts what he actually asserted in his biography.

Carson was definitely mistaken (at best) about who he got the offer from, or when he got it, since records show that Gen. Westmoreland wasn’t in Detroit on Memorial Day of that year, but was in Washington, D.C. playing golf at the time that Carson recalls getting the offer. That said, Westmoreland was in Detroit in February of that year, so it’s possible that he did make such an offer to young Carson then, and Carson subsequently conflated the two events in his memory (human memory is quite fallible in this regard).

He is definitely wrong, but not in a way that can be shown to be outright fabrication as the linked articles claim.

He is absolutely incompetent to be President or indeed anything other than a neurosurgeon, though. He seems to be an autistic savant: very skilled in one very narrow field, and practically retarded in almost everything else including basic common sense. I’m just not willing to call him a liar based on what can be explained by faulty memory.

Carson is an idiot, Rafale Nov 2015 #1
Really? That's the best you got? Perhaps they might help him Not Do It* libdem4life Nov 2015 #6
Agreed. Carson is just enriching himself to millions. bjobotts Nov 2015 #18
Well, I have to admit, that's the most awake I've seen Carson look. Rozlee Nov 2015 #12
Yeah, but he is on the Je-bus bandwagon Hepburn Nov 2015 #2
Off topic, but... NV Whino Nov 2015 #4
Thank you... Hepburn Nov 2015 #14
Now Be Kind People! NonMetro Nov 2015 #3
Many GOP politicians have made their pathological lying and issue, so fair game to know and ask why! Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #5
Remember "Mitt's Mendacity" about his weekly lying bjobotts Nov 2015 #19
Snopes.com appreciates all the traffic he's driving to them! spooky3 Nov 2015 #7
Thanks for exposing Carson's Lies, EarlG! Cha Nov 2015 #8
Second that. Nice list. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #28
I'm looking forward to "Who Said It ? Ben Carson or Grampa Simpson ?" nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #9
I'm just surprised Liberalagogo Nov 2015 #10
When Trump calls him pathological ejbr Nov 2015 #11
From the WiKi pangaia Nov 2015 #13
The joke's on them Roy Rolling Nov 2015 #15
He worked for Costco? d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #17
I call BS on carson's "hiding the white students" claim based on historical reasons ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #16
Wait til they find out BC doesnt believe in Christmas. ErikJ Nov 2015 #20
Gop's theocratic heads will explode stage left Nov 2015 #23
Ooh, that could be... 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #25
It just keeps getting funnier. #BenCarsonWikipedia L. Coyote Nov 2015 #21
K&R stage left Nov 2015 #22
Any politician interested in medicine... 63splitwindow Nov 2015 #24
The picture you posted silenttigersong Nov 2015 #26
Focus, people, on his issues and opinions Fritz Walter Nov 2015 #27
Frontrunner, Gullible Old Party L. Coyote Nov 2015 #29
Carson actually developed the polio vaccine. trof Nov 2015 #30
The Whole Story Seems to Be Fake erpowers Nov 2015 #31
In fairness to Carson, he did NOT claim to have APPLIED FOR a West Point scholarship. COMALite J Nov 2015 #32
A pettifogging distinction without a substantive difference. ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #34
One doesn't get offered a "West Point Scholarship"... paleotn Nov 2015 #35
K&R! stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #33
a friend told me there are q's about his Yale days, anyone know more? wordpix Nov 2015 #36
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