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rocktivity

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Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:18 PM
Apr 2014

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NBC Philadelphia.com: ...Investigators say 11-year-old Jamara Stevens was killed when she and her three siblings, a 14-year-old boy, 7-year-old girl and 2-year-old boy, were playing with a .357 caliber handgun with an 8-inch barrel in their Mantuna home...10 a.m. Saturday.

Tiffany Goldwire and her four children were in her bedroom, when she went to use the...bathroom...(T)he kids located the loaded firearm, which was left on top of the refrigerator by the mother's boyfriend who visited the home earlier that morning, and the eldest child retrieved it, according to reports. While playing with the weapon, the 2-year-old boy pointed the loaded, cocked gun in the direction of his 11-year-old sister and it discharged, striking her in the arm, according to authorities.

Sources tell NBC10 authorities determined the 2-year-old boy pulled the trigger because his arm had traces of gun powder and a burn from the blast.

Police say this is not the first time they have been to the Mantua home and that Goldwire is not cooperating with the investigation. Detectives say they are trying to figure out who owned the handgun, which they found on Goldwire's bed...

Well, when she entered the bathroom, was she aware that the 14-year old had the gun? If they'd never seen it before, I would think that the younger kids would have raised enough of a fuss to attract Goldwire's attention. Or maybe the eldest child bought the gun into the bedroom because Goldwire asked him to.


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What mysterious agency moved the gun? pscot Apr 2014 #1
Yieks yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #2
Absolutely! I had the same reaction, the 2 year old is a victim too. He'll have to live with this Happyhippychick Apr 2014 #30
What kind of a fucking idiot doesn't secure a gun IronGate Apr 2014 #3
Agreed. And welcome to DU. classof56 Apr 2014 #4
Gracias for the welcome. IronGate Apr 2014 #7
Something like that, elleng Apr 2014 #5
Was it negligent, or did someone figure 4 mouths to feed was one too many? . . . Journeyman Apr 2014 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author jeff47 Apr 2014 #18
Lots and lots and lots of fucking idiots. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #27
I hope mercuryblues Apr 2014 #32
I secure my fucking PELLET GUNS, for Christ's sake NickB79 Apr 2014 #46
...^ that 840high Apr 2014 #47
paranoid gun nuts Skittles Apr 2014 #55
Yeah, any of those kids could have found and moved that gun Warpy Apr 2014 #77
If only the 11-year-old had been armed. KamaAina Apr 2014 #6
Statistically she's never been safer Doctor_J Apr 2014 #82
For an American? Maybe, but you do not support your claim. tabasco Apr 2014 #94
Yeah, the top of the fridge is the most secure place in the house ehrnst Apr 2014 #8
It was moved from the top of the reefer IronGate Apr 2014 #10
The two oldest children certainly could have moved it rocktivity Apr 2014 #14
That would be my guess also. IronGate Apr 2014 #17
The mother because..........? jeff47 Apr 2014 #20
No one knows better than me that some kids plunder their parent's personal belongings rocktivity Apr 2014 #21
So the mother because of wild-ass speculation. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2014 #22
Man people are stupid. FreedRadical Apr 2014 #9
Stupid,stupid, STUPID!!! 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #11
But but but...GUNZ! BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #13
and guns don't kill people, people kill people. olddad56 Apr 2014 #16
Because GUNZ are anything but a deadly weapon dontcha know! BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #23
Gunner's rights DO trump everybody else's safety. Demobrat Apr 2014 #31
Blood for the freedumb tree BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #33
and also "you've never been safer." CTyankee Apr 2014 #90
Yes, more guns is always better BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #91
We don't even have kids in the house. SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #15
That Rarely Happens otohara Apr 2014 #19
Yeah, another "accidnetal" shooting. progressoid Apr 2014 #29
Many years ago SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #44
perhaps sweetapogee Apr 2014 #60
Good point! SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #63
Guns don't kill people mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #24
First degree murder. . .put the two year old on trial! Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #58
How can we be sure the 2 year old pulled the trigger exboyfil Apr 2014 #25
Another child sacrifice to the gun gods. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #26
and in NY, Lawmakers push for further gun restrictions. elleng Apr 2014 #28
Both the mother and the male friend are at fault for this. ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #34
A "male friend of the children's mother left the gun"? rocktivity Apr 2014 #35
It would appear that the female friends ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #36
These shootings are becoming too common place. The shootings are either because of an irresponsible geretogo Apr 2014 #37
Sad way to introduce kids to gun culture. Hoyt Apr 2014 #38
Clearly the girl's fault dbackjon Apr 2014 #39
Can a 2-yr old lift a gun? TBF Apr 2014 #40
It was the felon "Baby Daddy" who left the scene warrant46 Apr 2014 #43
True -- we only have mom's word for it that he wasn't here rocktivity Apr 2014 #48
It was a .357 caliber handgun with an 8-inch barrel rocktivity Apr 2014 #45
I'm not a gun owner - TBF Apr 2014 #50
If this is accurate, SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #52
Well, a more recent report says that gunpowder residue was found only on the 2-year old rocktivity Apr 2014 #53
Definitely not! SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity Apr 2014 #85
Interesting - TBF Apr 2014 #61
I've always been SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #64
It's kind of the same concept - TBF Apr 2014 #65
I like your approach. SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #66
But it really isn't. beevul Apr 2014 #76
Interesting - TBF Apr 2014 #81
If You Live RobinA Apr 2014 #83
Well, then, it is possible to UN-cock a gun without discharging it? rocktivity Apr 2014 #86
Tax Gun Owners! They are the anchor taking America to the bottom. nt onehandle Apr 2014 #41
More details rocktivity Apr 2014 #42
ty 840high Apr 2014 #49
First of all: get rid of guns gopiscrap Apr 2014 #51
If only the 11-year-old had a gun, too. Gungeoneer logic. nt valerief Apr 2014 #54
Actually you are the only one here that says that. ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #56
Cue gun humpers in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. . . Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #57
You would have more impact hack89 Apr 2014 #62
Again, 8,000 miles and 15 time zones away makes being #1 a little hard since Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #68
So you post classic snark and then take offense when I respond in kind? hack89 Apr 2014 #69
No, I take offense to the fact that you assume I waited such a long time. Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #70
Then don't post things that make you look stupid hack89 Apr 2014 #71
Yes, Dad. I will listen. Back to my original point. . .cue gun humpers in 5,4,3,2,1 Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #72
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #73
Fast learning. . .that ignore button works well. Welcome to it. Nice personal insult too. Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author miyazaki Apr 2014 #79
not buying this story Egnever Apr 2014 #67
mmm...somehow I don't think the 2-year-old "aimed" Doctor_J Apr 2014 #74
No It Doesn't RobinA Apr 2014 #84
Just another typical day in gun-crazy USA riversk1953hy Apr 2014 #75
Do they have pre-school prisons? miyazaki Apr 2014 #80
UPDATE: Detectives are currently searching for 31-year-old Tiffany Goldwire rocktivity Apr 2014 #87
Here is another one...put up an hour and 30 minutes ago.....see link: Stuart G Apr 2014 #88
like Chris Rock says, we need bullet control- bullets should cost $5000 each wordpix Apr 2014 #89
Mother surrenders in toddler's fatal shooting of 11-year-old rocktivity Apr 2014 #92
If that girl had a gun herself she could have shot her little brother in self defense The Second Stone Apr 2014 #93
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