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calimary

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17. Exactly. The WORDS are there.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 01:37 PM
Apr 2013

But we've had WORDS handed down to us from on high before. And the problem persists. And the perpetrators are protected instead of the victims. And the conditions that allow for this kind of horror carry on as if there's just complete dismissal of the changing world the Church must recognize and minister unto - AS IT IS, and NOT as the Church would dictate it to be.

When Pope Francis starts recognizing the talent pool that constitutes at least 51% of the global population - that's still being flatly and uncompromisingly dismissed (women, that is) - THEN I'll believe we'll start to see meaningful change. The institution has to work with the world in which it finds itself. Now. Today. In THIS century. NOT back when, during Jesus's day, or Emperor Constantine's day, or any other day in the past. The world is changing. And the Catholic Church MUST change and grow with it if it expects to play a relevant role in THIS WORLD NOW.

You CANNOT fight or dispute evolution - even if you yourself don't believe in it. That does not make it go away or otherwise cease to exist. And if you continue to think that way, it will eventually be YOU that goes away or ceases to exist. Evolution itself will continue. Just ask the dinosaurs and the trilobites.

Very cool. I think he's setting the stage to really break with the old Pope's mishandling of it. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #1
And yet at the same time... trotsky Apr 2013 #2
This is wonderful, and should help some of the victims to heal. Not all, but some. loudsue Apr 2013 #3
Does anyone actually believe any of the Bishops and Cardinals who have spent decades... Walk away Apr 2013 #4
If you want the church to "act decisively" Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #5
Is there an outstanding arrest warrant for Ratzinger somewhere? struggle4progress Apr 2013 #6
No, but several jurisdictions would at least issue Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #8
Ratzinger not being a diplomat, how could he have "diplomatic immunity"? struggle4progress Apr 2013 #10
Lateran Pacts deurbano Apr 2013 #11
The 1929 Lateran Treaty was modified in 1985 to ensure that struggle4progress Apr 2013 #14
I don't know. deurbano Apr 2013 #19
He had it by virtue of being Pope Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #21
I thought you said there were no criminal charges against him. struggle4progress Apr 2013 #24
Back in the 2003-2004, there was talk Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #25
If the trade off for really ending child abuse in the Church is immunity for the last Pope Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #22
The abuse will not stop until the guilty Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #23
All talk. broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #7
+1 SunSeeker Apr 2013 #9
It's a lot more than talk Catherina Apr 2013 #12
If he follows through with that on a worldwide scale Adsos Letter Apr 2013 #13
Well, I'll wait and see. All we've had is talk so far, and an awful lot of covering-up. calimary Apr 2013 #15
Making matters more complicated... trotsky Apr 2013 #16
Exactly. The WORDS are there. calimary Apr 2013 #17
I think it will all depend on how much blowback he gets from the curia. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #27
Gotta give the man credit, he's said all the right things since being installed. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #18
And done some right things, too... BadtotheboneBob Apr 2013 #28
Lets see if he backs this up with action. iandhr Apr 2013 #20
I am glad he feels that way and look foward to actions on the RCC part. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #26
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