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Alea

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55. How would the homeowner know they were not armed?

Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:35 AM

Dec 2017

How would he know they would not kill him. That "but they were not armed" argument don't fly for home intrusion. Old guy had every right to ventilate those criminals.

Robbery, and especially home invasion, may not be a capital crime, but it can sure get you a death sentence. Criminals know this and they accept the risk. We should respect their decision.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 OP

Very interesting article. Brings up questions..k and r. Stuart G Dec 2017 #1

No it doesn't for me. I have no issue with responsible gun owners having a gun in the home...but Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #65

A legitimate exercise of your 2nd Amendment rights unlike..... Thomas Hurt Dec 2017 #2

We had an incident like that in Memphis a couple of weeks ago, but then Luciferous Dec 2017 #21

Yeah, this is how I imagine the typical gun humper. hunter Dec 2017 #3

In your mind sarisataka Dec 2017 #6

There's a reason fools like this end up living alone. hunter Dec 2017 #8

Looks like the fools were the thugs who broke in. Calculating Dec 2017 #20

So we're celebrating paranoid old guys who live alone and sleep with loaded guns? hunter Dec 2017 #29

LOL....paranoid.... ileus Dec 2017 #33

Do you sleep with a loaded gun? hunter Dec 2017 #36

Now that you've explained it, I agree with you. The_jackalope Dec 2017 #37

Hah! Just because he is paranoid does not mean they were not after him! GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #40

This is a sad story. hunter Dec 2017 #44

SMH, you would rather have the old man dead and the criminals alive? Alea Dec 2017 #57

Thank you. nt cwydro Dec 2017 #56

Funny that you know absolutely nothing about this man but somehow you have all this info. Tipperary Dec 2017 #68

Looks like he had good reason to be "paranoid" as you put it workinclasszero Dec 2017 #78

Do you ever consider how fearful the shooter is? If had to live like that, I would move...sad way Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #67

Yeah, he's a survivor. pintobean Dec 2017 #30

Yeah, so am I. hunter Dec 2017 #32

You an 84 year old combat vet? pintobean Dec 2017 #34

No, I'm a survivor who never has, and never will shoot anyone, so help me God. hunter Dec 2017 #38

+1 Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #51

There are horrible people out there who shouldn't own a gun and it has to stop...those who Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #66

Yes I agree that there are some sarisataka Dec 2017 #74

Disgusting for an 80 year old to defend himself from home invaders??? Calculating Dec 2017 #19

I hope they meant to be sarcastic. Luciferous Dec 2017 #23

No sarcasm at all. Every word meant as typed. GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #41

Naturally, Sailor65x1 Dec 2017 #59

Moral: People who break into occupied houses take their chances. MineralMan Dec 2017 #4

He should be charged with murder. Joe941 Dec 2017 #5

Why? sarisataka Dec 2017 #7

In cases like this, the robber who lived is charged with his friend's murder IronLionZion Dec 2017 #9

Charge with murder? ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #12

probably manslaughter IronLionZion Dec 2017 #13

When my house was burglarized ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #16

That would depend on your state law Lurks Often Dec 2017 #17

In many states GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #18

Check with a lawyer in your state IronLionZion Dec 2017 #22

And that's what is strange about what the cop told me ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #27

Even Blue states have Castle doctrine. It dates back centuries to English Common Law. NutmegYankee Dec 2017 #50

2nd degree in Mo. - Just happened here a few days ago. pintobean Dec 2017 #24

Felony Murder is the term Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #62

you're kidding, right? nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #45

WTF? infidel621 Dec 2017 #60

How about we post a story about every handgun murder also! n.t USALiberal Dec 2017 #10

Korean combat vet - he's likely killed on our behalf before. FarCenter Dec 2017 #11

I'm very very very very very very anti-gun renate Dec 2017 #14

Seniors know they can be targets. Corgigal Dec 2017 #15

Like in the vast majority of cases of self defense, a 30 round magazine wasn't needed. Kaleva Dec 2017 #25

Cool Story, Bro . stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #26

I couldn't live like that, and I wouldn't feel safe dealing with someone who did ecstatic Dec 2017 #28

"I assume he has no grandkids" left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #35

One for the bucket list lame54 Dec 2017 #31

Was the intruder armed? Beaverhausen Dec 2017 #39

Why would it matter? Kaleva Dec 2017 #42

Well he weighed 300 pounds and went for an 86 year old man GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #43

I didn't know being fat was a capital crime Beaverhausen Dec 2017 #46

Doesn't matter if they were armed with a gun or not. LisaL Dec 2017 #47

Not all 300 pounders are fat. GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #52

Disparity of force DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2017 #53

How would the homeowner know they were not armed? Alea Dec 2017 #55

Should he wait to find out? infidel621 Dec 2017 #61

This instance doesn't change the math that owning a gun makes it far more likely mythology Dec 2017 #48

He is also a veteran so knows how to use guns. LisaL Dec 2017 #49

Won't suicidal people just kill themselves some other way though? Calculating Dec 2017 #54

They will. But it makes a great excuse to come after guns Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #63

How do you know that it doesn't change rates? Kaleva Dec 2017 #72

The suicide rate for male gun owners is much higher then for male non-gun owners Kaleva Dec 2017 #70

Your user name is appropriate to your post Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #64

Play stupid games, Sailor65x1 Dec 2017 #58

That article doesn't tell us that the intruder was a family member Orrex Dec 2017 #69

I wonder if intruder knew his LisaL Dec 2017 #71

Where I live, we have people breaking into old relative's homes for pills. Kaleva Dec 2017 #73

The aberrant feel-good gun story we're sold as a bill of goods every five or six months. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #75

Much better than "Old man killed by burglars" left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #76

What if the gun accidentally discharges while he is sleeping ? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #77

Good shoot... ADX Dec 2017 #79