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uponit7771

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86. I think we agree on that, its the .0001% who are not (seeing humans aren't perfect) that are not

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 11:03 PM

Jul 2016

... being held accountable when there's some obvious crap that goes wrong.

In this case the police are allowed to profile someone who's a basketball start and has no need to rob anyone, in the case of the Air Station the person wasn't profiled due to the randomness of the search.

also

When video or other evidence shows obvious miscounts of a story from a LEO or when they don't even write down reports (as what happened in Ferguson) then there should be low fruit steps in implementing consequences.

When that doesn't happen that's what tears the trust asunder

I do think federal investigations when things go wrong will go a long way of taking the onus off police of investigating themselves

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Bill Russell on keeping his hands up during a traffic stop. [View all] bigtree Jul 2016 OP

Thanks for this. Kick and Rec!!!!!!!!! still_one Jul 2016 #1

Bill f-ing Russell rocks uawchild Jul 2016 #2

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #3

Published in October 1980. 19 f'ing 80. How much longer this going to go on ? n/t CincyDem Jul 2016 #4

Being going on for much longer than that.. HipChick Jul 2016 #7

Oh yeah - I get that. CincyDem Jul 2016 #19

Think of the thousands who have had their lives cut short in this manner alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #14

Very timely, considering that was the year a riot broke out in Miami over the very same problem. forest444 Jul 2016 #21

Been going on (here in North America) since 1526 or so ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #53

K&R!! It shows how long this has been going on! Cooley Hurd Jul 2016 #5

Big K&R PatSeg Jul 2016 #6

"Matched the description" GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #8

Yup. Description: "Black male, aged 18-80." catbyte Jul 2016 #75

DU Rec. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #9

K & R for remembering how fucking long this has gone on! Thank you! ancianita Jul 2016 #10

Racism and Bill Russell Lamonte Jul 2016 #11

Bill Russell's daughter FuzzyRabbit Jul 2016 #20

Doesn't matter what you do for a living or how much you make. BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #12

Actor Wendell Pierce describes how a cop almost shot him as he drove home tblue37 Jul 2016 #36

That's just sad. BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #52

I remember this episode.. mountain grammy Jul 2016 #90

K&R napkinz Jul 2016 #13

Police: NBA legend Bill Russell arrested with gun at airport (2013) oberliner Jul 2016 #15

and of course the irrelevant post must follow... n/t uawchild Jul 2016 #16

The OP is about an incident involving Bill Russell and law enforcement oberliner Jul 2016 #28

very very weak, Obie uawchild Jul 2016 #42

You have no idea what you are talking about oberliner Jul 2016 #58

I reflect this way greiner3 Jul 2016 #85

that is their job uhnope Jul 2016 #87

your point? bigtree Jul 2016 #18

Your OP is about Bill Russell oberliner Jul 2016 #27

that's nonsense bigtree Jul 2016 #34

No it's not oberliner Jul 2016 #37

tell us the 'insight' you gleaned about traffic stops and race bigtree Jul 2016 #41

OK oberliner Jul 2016 #59

Federal police vs the local yokels BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #60

Good point oberliner Jul 2016 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Jul 2016 #79

Yup. It might just as well have been about one of the matches he played in ! Joe Chi Minh Jul 2016 #89

You seem to be pushing a narrative, what is that narrative? n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #23

No narrative is being pushed oberliner Jul 2016 #29

since it's completely unrelated to the issue of police stops and race bigtree Jul 2016 #35

Why is one incident with law enforcement relevant and another (more recent one) irrelevant? oberliner Jul 2016 #39

because one was justified the other the USUAL racial profiling. Your position here intimates that th uponit7771 Jul 2016 #78

Of course it happens oberliner Jul 2016 #81

I think we agree on that, its the .0001% who are not (seeing humans aren't perfect) that are not uponit7771 Jul 2016 #86

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #43

How wonderful for you oberliner Jul 2016 #57

The point being? marmar Jul 2016 #25

Sometimes law enforcement behaves properly? oberliner Jul 2016 #31

The incident in Russell's book doesn't sound like one of those times marmar Jul 2016 #44

But that was over 30 years ago oberliner Jul 2016 #56

"I would argue that perhaps things are better today" BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #61

You think things are worse today than 30 years ago? oberliner Jul 2016 #62

Were you? BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #64

Yes, indeed oberliner Jul 2016 #65

So because it wasn't on "social media" BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #66

"Your post is an example of why the problem exists and will continue to exist for the next century." oberliner Jul 2016 #67

I'm afraid given your other responses in this thread BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #70

You have no idea what you are talking about oberliner Jul 2016 #83

That was NOT your original assertion BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #88

Red Herring, the point here being there's very little recourse when they don't and usually have uponit7771 Jul 2016 #76

So I guess your point is "Just because he's with the NBA that doesn't mean..." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #26

Not sure how you would come to that conclusion oberliner Jul 2016 #32

I'm fed up with the denial. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #38

There is no denial oberliner Jul 2016 #40

And you base this conclusion on what? uawchild Jul 2016 #45

The percentage of minority police officers in U.S. agencies almost doubled between 1987 and 2013 oberliner Jul 2016 #48

Yet the fact that those black cops BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #69

Your post didn't come off that way. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #51

My post was literally just a news article oberliner Jul 2016 #55

That was great. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #17

everytime i see a cheerful little black boy. i wanna give him a hug for what is gonna change for him pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #22

Mr Russell was fortunate there were witnesses. malthaussen Jul 2016 #24

K&R. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #30

Seems kind of scary for any person. rockfordfile Jul 2016 #33

LEO has been deliberately infiltrated by white supremacists: tblue37 Jul 2016 #46

One quarter of all police officers are people of color oberliner Jul 2016 #47

That doesn't mean that there are not a lot of good ol' boy cops, tblue37 Jul 2016 #50

True - but perhaps things are getting better oberliner Jul 2016 #54

Philadelphia's Guardian Civic League BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #71

That is depressing oberliner Jul 2016 #73

Another Red Herring, it's not the LEOs who are white are going to openly tell the PoC LEOs that they uponit7771 Jul 2016 #77

Not at all oberliner Jul 2016 #82

a 'routine mistake.' elleng Jul 2016 #49

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jul 2016 #68

He's lucky he wasn't shot for .... something. They would figure it out later. FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #72

I was still working at the time "L.A. Law" was on. I interviewed Blair Underwood. calimary Jul 2016 #74

epic kick Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #80

I saw Forest Whittaker on a talk show .... kwassa Jul 2016 #84

The reason southerners made it illegal for slaves to learn to read and write, mountain grammy Jul 2016 #91

kick napkinz Jul 2016 #92