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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 01:18 PM Jan 2015

Anjem Choudary: "Why did France allow the tabloid to provoke Muslims?" [View all]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/

Anjem Choudary
10:52 a.m. EST January 8, 2015

Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are determined by divine revelation and not based on people's desires.

Although Muslims may not agree about the idea of freedom of expression, even non-Muslims who espouse it say it comes with responsibilities. In an increasingly unstable and insecure world, the potential consequences of insulting the Messenger Muhammad are known to Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State. This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, "Whoever insults a Prophet kill him."

~ snip ~

It is time that the sanctity of a Prophet revered by up to one-quarter of the world's population was protected.

~ snip ~


No, this man does not speak for ALL Muslims. But make no mistake - he speaks for a much larger number than we want to believe.
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How many does he speak for, and what is the number we wish to believe? LanternWaste Jan 2015 #1
Good question. HappyMe Jan 2015 #7
Good news: There ARE British Muslims who oppose this vile man FrodosPet Jan 2015 #30
I had no doubt that there are HappyMe Jan 2015 #33
And thank goodness for that FrodosPet Jan 2015 #37
Yes, he does have followers HappyMe Jan 2015 #41
Can you hook me up with a round trip plane ticket and some cash? FrodosPet Jan 2015 #18
I think you're confusing 'research' and 'looking for only answers that validate my bias.' LanternWaste Jan 2015 #45
I thought I was looking for a way to get paid to visit the British Isles :-) FrodosPet Jan 2015 #47
my deity has a sense of humour. too bad about his. niyad Jan 2015 #2
But France isn't an Islamic state and even if it was Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #3
Lunatics constantly trying to scare us into respecting them. TwilightGardener Jan 2015 #4
I think they'd be content with fearing. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #11
You are right. TwilightGardener Jan 2015 #25
More stupidity from those who think religion should get a pass from criticism and satire. backscatter712 Jan 2015 #5
This is on the killers, period, not on Islam and not on France or Charlie. merrily Jan 2015 #6
Mixed up priorities. moondust Jan 2015 #8
"Human rights and civil liberties trump your imaginary belief system" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #48
It is not on the alleged "provoker"; it is on those who indulge themselves by feeling "provoked." WinkyDink Jan 2015 #9
Wow, just.....wow..... PLEASE tell me this guy does not speak for more than .0001% of Muslims. Coventina Jan 2015 #10
Guess again. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #14
Assholes like Donohue and Choudary make me want to be even more mocking of their prophets,... MohRokTah Jan 2015 #20
We now have Donohue being cited on DU as if he was sane Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #60
He doesn't speak for most Muslims; he is an idiot who lives in Britain but hates Britain LeftishBrit Jan 2015 #27
Is he a British citizen? Coventina Jan 2015 #31
Yes, he was born here LeftishBrit Jan 2015 #32
Bummer. I guess you're stuck with him, then. Coventina Jan 2015 #36
Choudary thinks he speaks for god C_U_L8R Jan 2015 #12
Then he agrees with Donohue who thinks they should not have published Mass Jan 2015 #13
But I don't see Donohue asking to change TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #19
Who said Right-Wing Catholics are any standard for a democracy? WinkyDink Jan 2015 #26
Nobody. At least not me. Mass Jan 2015 #35
No I do not. FrodosPet Jan 2015 #40
Numerically, almost equal to the Klan. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #46
But it is a tenet of Islam not to defame, or even portray, Muhammed. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #65
As far as I'm concerned, he's almost as bad as the terrorists. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #15
He is as bad. He's standing shoulder to shoulder with them, and worse, Coventina Jan 2015 #21
As a Brit, I only wish he would move! LeftishBrit Jan 2015 #24
So I guess if Mormons start murdering and bombing people who insult Joseph Smith, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #16
I sincerely must question the validity of any religion RationalMan Jan 2015 #17
The 21st century and Western democracy hardly compare to 1st C. Judea., nor even to Medieval Europe. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #29
And where do you think the Quran requirement came from? RationalMan Jan 2015 #44
Oh fuck him and his silly-ass superstitions. Codeine Jan 2015 #22
Epicurus nailed it more than 2,000 years ago . . . . hatrack Jan 2015 #69
Choudary is a sort of British Muslim Fred Phelps LeftishBrit Jan 2015 #23
He does not need to speak for the majority FrodosPet Jan 2015 #34
Fairy tales nil desperandum Jan 2015 #28
Every damn time some Islamic killer wreaks his havoc, people pipe up about ALL religions. HOGWASH. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #38
Thank you. HappyMe Jan 2015 #43
Hindus still more-or-less regularly kill innocent muslims where I live Recursion Jan 2015 #52
+ 1000 nt riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #54
"Don't waste your mind on nursery rhymes... Bonx Jan 2015 #59
I'll gladly accord a murderous child molester all the "honor" he deserves. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2015 #39
I'm surprised USA Today gives space to a man on bail after arrest for encouraging terrorism muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #42
Why did USA Today even give him the mic? nt B2G Jan 2015 #49
He not only speaks for them, he inspires them. CJCRANE Jan 2015 #50
I've weighed this statement very carefully, but I stand by it: Recursion Jan 2015 #51
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Phlem Jan 2015 #55
"Whoever insults a Prophet kill him." Phlem Jan 2015 #53
Guess what - if YOU kill someone TBF Jan 2015 #56
FUCK ANYONE that has to commit violence over criticism! Rex Jan 2015 #57
And millions can be damn dead wrong. Lint Head Jan 2015 #58
so he is the jerry fall well/pat robertson of islam. pansypoo53219 Jan 2015 #61
No, he's not. FrodosPet Jan 2015 #63
No, he's far less influential. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #66
No, more like the Fred Phelps or Terry Jones muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #67
As a reminder... Dr. Strange Jan 2015 #62
this is why thinks like torture do not get the same JI7 Jan 2015 #64
Bill Donohue of the Catholic League blames the victims, too. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #68
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