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BlueCheese

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45. With apologies to the author and the OP...

Thu Aug 29, 2013, 08:39 PM

Aug 2013

... I strongly disagree with that article. Halfway through I wondered if it was parody-- especially where she wrote she had a terrible education and still has big holes in her knowledge, but that's okay.

As it happens, I went to public school K-12, but then again, we had a terrific public school system where we lived. I do think that public school systems should be cherished and comfortably funded. But a lot of them aren't very good (not even because of the school, but because of the communities they serve), and nobody has a moral obligation to sacrifice their children's well-being or safety for some abstract hope.

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"If you send your kid to private school, you are a bad person" [View all] philosslayer Aug 2013 OP

Unless you are a rich Dem who says nice things about public schools. You forgot that. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #1

Nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #2

I agree it doesn't make you bad, but it doesn't increase the funding per pupil frazzled Aug 2013 #3

That's true for state funding, but aren't most schools funded through local property taxes? aikoaiko Aug 2013 #5

Only for a portion of the costs. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #8

So the state and federal funding are allocated per pupil. Mariana Aug 2013 #21

I don't know how it's handled locally across the country. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #42

In many instances these days, Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #102

Supporting state funding of private schools *is* morally wrong, I agree. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #105

The problem with that reasoning is set out in the article Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #106

If you willingly undermine your childs education for the good of "society", you're an unfit parent. Xithras Aug 2013 #4

Private schools are not defacto better. Goblinmonger Aug 2013 #26

No one is making that argument. The person you replied to said that SOME public pnwmom Aug 2013 #29

And I'd never claim that they were. Xithras Aug 2013 #35

Yes. A good parent doesn't sacrifice his or her children's well being for the sake of pnwmom Aug 2013 #28

Wonderfully written JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #51

If that makes me bad, then I don't want to be good. aikoaiko Aug 2013 #6

"Don’t just acknowledge your liberal guilt" MicaelS Aug 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #9

Sorry, I don't believe this at all LittleBlue Aug 2013 #10

Well she does write The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #13

Yeah I saw that LittleBlue Aug 2013 #14

No doubt The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #16

So parents have power but Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #17

LOL, guess you are not a big picture type. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #53

So if I buy a book in a bookstore, I don't support public libraries? brooklynite Aug 2013 #11

I pay my full share of taxes and send my kids to private school n2doc Aug 2013 #12

So I'm bad... sarisataka Aug 2013 #15

If I had a say in public schools joeglow3 Aug 2013 #18

Fuck and You telclaven Aug 2013 #19

Isn't it possible Goblinmonger Aug 2013 #27

Not all scholarships are need-based. jeff47 Aug 2013 #32

We chose to send our children to private Catholic school benld74 Aug 2013 #20

My wife is a public school teacher. We homeschool due to her experience with the schools. Probably kelly1mm Aug 2013 #22

So you wife thought she herself was a bad teacher? n-t Logical Aug 2013 #54

No, she things she is a pretty good teachers, when she is actually allowed to teach which is kelly1mm Aug 2013 #64

I imagine learning to different between the general and the specific wasn't taught at your school? LanternWaste Aug 2013 #72

LOL, I bet you are fun at parties. OK Einstein! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #76

Here's what I'm basically reading... philosslayer Aug 2013 #23

Each of my children began in public schools and continued till middle or high school. pnwmom Aug 2013 #33

So you want parents to deliberately harm their children jeff47 Aug 2013 #34

I wonder about my situation FreeJoe Aug 2013 #43

Do you have children? GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #48

Yes, I do philosslayer Aug 2013 #104

So did mine. I couldn't have afforded a private school. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #107

And what happens if we get Single Payer, and you have the chance to opt out? philosslayer Sep 2013 #109

Can you name a Single Payer System that DOESN'T allow supplemental private physicians? brooklynite Sep 2013 #110

And you think thats right? philosslayer Sep 2013 #116

Consider the following scenario... brooklynite Sep 2013 #117

Terrific philosslayer Sep 2013 #119

The rich will always be able to afford things the rest of us can't. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #111

How about we do away with all schooling Carnage251 Aug 2013 #56

I agree also laundry_queen Aug 2013 #62

So how does sending my kids to a shitty school make it better? hack89 Aug 2013 #85

Not my fault you can't figure this one out on your own laundry_queen Aug 2013 #90

So how many years of a substandard education hack89 Aug 2013 #94

That is the problem right there. laundry_queen Aug 2013 #96

My kids come first. Sorry if that bothers you. hack89 Aug 2013 #97

I guess it does bother me laundry_queen Aug 2013 #98

You have a government that serves their people hack89 Aug 2013 #100

Another thing laundry_queen Aug 2013 #93

My kids go to a very good public school hack89 Aug 2013 #95

Not deliberately harming your child to benefit others does not make you a bad person. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #83

+Infinity! A sad display of unabashed class privilege, quite unbecoming HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #114

Bullshit demwing Aug 2013 #24

well stated Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #39

Well, I think you missed the point. But your anger is noted. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #55

How noble of her pintobean Aug 2013 #25

I always find it amusing when Butterbean Aug 2013 #108

My middle and high school experience was "Lord of the Flies." hunter Aug 2013 #30

Thank you for your honesty, Hunter. A good parent who sees problems and has alternatives pnwmom Aug 2013 #36

a very powerful, touching post Supersedeas Aug 2013 #91

So Slate has devolved to Trolldom, eh? Seeking Serenity Aug 2013 #31

My thoughts exactly. (nt) Nine Aug 2013 #87

The writer is someone who thinks getting drunk before basketball games pnwmom Aug 2013 #37

Unless you're a politican, hmmm? n/t Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #38

Her argument (to the extent she's serious) breaks down Seeking Serenity Aug 2013 #40

Well if we did away with all private education ... spin Aug 2013 #41

This isn't always true, but... DemocraticWing Aug 2013 #44

With apologies to the author and the OP... BlueCheese Aug 2013 #45

our politicians are the ones who bailed on public education. Until they are willing to fund our liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #46

My father worked two jobs to send my brother and myself to private school Raine Aug 2013 #47

It was a given LWolf Aug 2013 #49

Care to point out some of this bashing? Carnage251 Aug 2013 #52

Care to read it? LWolf Aug 2013 #81

Or maybe you don't have an argument Carnage251 Aug 2013 #82

I DON'T have an argument. LWolf Aug 2013 #89

If most of our children's education Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #50

Why not just call "Sesame Street" a head start program? Think of all the taxes THAT would save! Squinch Aug 2013 #57

I'm not proposing Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #60

Again. It is clear you haven't met many children. Or working parents. Squinch Aug 2013 #70

If I'm missing something Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #71

Better yet, you go out, spend some time with some children, and run your plan past some of Squinch Aug 2013 #73

I'm assuming it would be a lot like yours Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #74

Probably. Because your suggestion is so far off the mark, they might not want to engage in Squinch Aug 2013 #77

Nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #84

That's alright Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #86

i can understand the idea d_r Aug 2013 #58

Oh no, someone is calling a parent a bad person. 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #59

As a Dem and a parent of 2 kids, I call BS. woodsprite Aug 2013 #61

meds for the good of the general public Supersedeas Aug 2013 #92

The admin who was most adamant about intervention actually had a breakdown woodsprite Aug 2013 #103

Well this certainly pricked the conscience of the conservadems. Good job. K&R Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #63

Out of curiosity, which public school system did your kids go to? brooklynite Aug 2013 #67

Ha! Curiosity, indeed. I know think the "underclasses" are stupid. But rest assured that it is only Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #68

Not my point at all brooklynite Aug 2013 #69

As long as parents support public schools through their taxes hack89 Aug 2013 #78

If by "conservadems" you mean "people who love their children" you are correct geek tragedy Aug 2013 #79

+ Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #115

Quite a few of our resident Gun Enthusiasts, here. Totally unsurprising. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #118

President Obama went to a private school. Jenoch Aug 2013 #65

How many people here own a house or apartment? brooklynite Aug 2013 #66

No they aren't but the option is bad for the many for the benefit of the few. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #75

This has to be a parody (an RAA argument) by someone what wants to undermine public education Supersedeas Aug 2013 #80

I proudly pay taxes to support my local schools which are good. IdaBriggs Aug 2013 #88

My parents sent me to private school and they are great people. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #99

I love it I fully agree! gopiscrap Aug 2013 #101

What a load of crap. NaturalHigh Sep 2013 #112

That's ridiculous. If I want my child to receive a Jesuit preparatory education then I purchase RB TexLa Sep 2013 #113

As long as it isn't paid for using money made from Wall St or investments I think its great. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #120