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In reply to the discussion: Witness responds to suggestion that Trayvon lied before getting shot: ‘That’s real retarded, sir’ [View all]John2
(2,730 posts)you. We know a lot more than that. I think everything needs to be bought in, including the past violent histories of both people involved now.
You talked about Trayvon lying but you didn't even know the kid. Did you just stereotype him? Everybody is painting George Zimmerman as this good citizen, always following the rules and the law. I think the gloves need to come off.
There is no indication Trayvon Martin had a violent history and started fights. Now we are talking about a juvenile. His records showed Trayvon was guilty of being tardiness from class. He was guilty of writing Graffitti on school walls. He was caught with the possession of female jewelry and what people claimed to be a screw driver on his possession. No history of violence or fighting. No history of lying. What you have here are typical childish juvenile pranks. The kid got suspended for three in a row.
Now George Zimmerman. He was arrested for assaulting an officer and drunken behavior. The charges were reduced after plea bargaining. Keep in mind this is not a juvenile but an adult male. He was arrested or charged with speeding. He was accused of domestic violence against his girl friend. She filed first and counter charged. They were both granted restraining orders. Now I don't know if this is all the prosecutors have on George Zimmerman, but there have been other allegations made against him.
Now I understand the prosecutors were reluctant to charge Zimmerman in the first place, but I wonder, if they are putting out all the possible evidence available against George Zimmerman in this case? The weight of past violence in Zimmerman's character or past history, outweighs that of Trayvon Martin.
Lets talk about lying under oath or inconsistant prior statements. George Zimmerman has already made prior statements as well as his father,mother, wife and brother. They are all open to be subpoenaed by the prosecutor. I found out Mr Zimmerman is a retired magistrate. I noticed Zimmerman's accounts has changed before obtaining a lawyer. He has also given interviews. His father has made statements to the media. I notice his father is a retired magistrate. Zimmerman appears to have been coached. His father gave different accounts than Zimmerman's first claims.
Zimmerman also was taking Criminal Justice classes in College. One of those Classes was Juvenile Justice. One of the subject matters in Juvenile justice is profiling potential suspects. That is where Zimmerman could have learned to profile Martin. In those classes, usually minorities are profiled the most and targeted by police unfairly. Zimmerman claimed there was a number of breakins recently in the community and Martin hadn't been seen before by him.
Now we don't know if there is any evidence Zimmerman could have been surveilling and stalking Martin earlier, but he sure gave a good description of Martin at night, including exact age. Is that a coincidence? I also understand Zimmerman wasn't making good grades in that course. I know something about the subject myself. I know that I did better than Zimmerman in it
for a clue. I wonder how he got a gun without a background check and his criminal record? And I don't buy the Dog excuse. There are laws about violent pets and what to do. It sure isn't getting a gun. What ever police officer told him that needs to be disciplined.