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mmonk

(52,589 posts) Tue May 21, 2013, 12:38 PM May 2013

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There is a moral problem with America when something as devastating as the Oklahoma tornado [View all]

is debated concerning helping those affected along money or cost issues. There should be no debate in appropriating federal money.

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There is a moral problem with America when something as devastating as the Oklahoma tornado [View all] mmonk May 2013 OP

Amen! kentuck May 2013 #1

Oh, you know, "let 'em eat cake!" Bake May 2013 #54

These are the signs that show us nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #2

The empire is crumbling fast. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #74

right but late Chaco Dundee May 2013 #90

Or that people would want to condition aid and relief upon a sense of score settling. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #3

There wouldn't be if it wasn't for jessie04 May 2013 #4

Sounds like a 5 year old MuseRider May 2013 #5

It's pretty much the only thing I can do to insult them. jessie04 May 2013 #6

That is about the saddest MuseRider May 2013 #7

...Most pitiful and uncaring? Demoiselle May 2013 #10

Oh so it is OK to act like this because a Repuke has/is? Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #12

"Taking the high road" got us to where we are today in politics... truebrit71 May 2013 #17

So two wrongs make a right now? Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #20

exactly what effect will Demoiselle's comments have in securing or not securing relief funds? frylock May 2013 #25

Nope, but they get you elected... truebrit71 May 2013 #37

How's that working out for peace in the Middle East? nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #21

We won't know until the US stops supporting the bully... truebrit71 May 2013 #38

Well you go ahead then. Stand up to those bullies.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #50

WTF are you talking about? truebrit71 May 2013 #58

"[T]he only way to beat a bully is to punch them back HARDER then they punch you" Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #60

The republican bullies... truebrit71 May 2013 #83

No, it's not self-evident. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #84

Yes it is if you read the thread. truebrit71 May 2013 #85

And how exactly are you suggesting we "punch" the Republicans as it relates to Oklahoma? nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #86

You are missing the point...my response actually has bugger all to do with OK... truebrit71 May 2013 #87

Which simply means not playing politics with disaster relief aid. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #88

Right liberalmike27 May 2013 #110

God someone else as pissed as me. busterbrown May 2013 #93

Well, denying storm relief aid would be a pretty shitty way to "fight back" if you ask me. nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #97

And no-one is suggesting that.... truebrit71 May 2013 #109

So what is being suggested? Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #118

Demoiselle wasn't justifying any behavior. They were questioning the ranking of pitiful cui bono May 2013 #23

I think the idea John2 May 2013 #94

Really? MynameisBlarney May 2013 #13

Grow the fuck up. Zoeisright May 2013 #14

How's the view up there on your high horse? Myrina May 2013 #16

The problem with taking the high road is - it too often takes you straight over a cliff. calimary May 2013 #19

You know, fighting back IS taking the high road! cui bono May 2013 #24

Point made. HOWEVER, I'd rather defend a party in which there actually are people who DO see this calimary May 2013 #46

I agree. And I don't think they're the same at all. But unfortunately the Dems are also complicit cui bono May 2013 #63

well aren't you special.. frylock May 2013 #30

Oh stop it! I'm not happy with insults either, but sometimes it does feel really good. mountain grammy May 2013 #33

Yeah. I know what you mean, mountain grammy. calimary May 2013 #47

Yes, like the only way to spell the GOP loser's name is RMoney.. I I feel better. mountain grammy May 2013 #55

My favorite has always been "republi-CONS." calimary May 2013 #56

Yes, and if the shoe fits.. We shouldn't treat them like they're serious, mountain grammy May 2013 #89

Wow, talk about misplaced pity. Arugula Latte May 2013 #52

Doesn't mean he isn't right... Blue_Tires May 2013 #18

I wonder why the word hillbilly is an allowed slur? CBGLuthier May 2013 #28

Have I offended you? Blue_Tires May 2013 #36

No more than most people who use that term CBGLuthier May 2013 #39

Good points... Blue_Tires May 2013 #43

What were you expecting? n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #49

Chimperor, Il Dunce, Cmdr. Bunnypants, Bush the Lesser, Idiot Son, Cokehead McStagger... DRoseDARs May 2013 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest May 2013 #9

Loving your nicknames for these raging hypocritical assholes. They cannot be insulted enough. MotherPetrie May 2013 #108

I think it's a safe bet that our Democratic Senators and Congressmen will vote for aid. Walk away May 2013 #8

I would hope so. mmonk May 2013 #42

And yet your so called CHRISTIANS Iliyah May 2013 #11

This is what the fucking republican party has sunk gopiscrap May 2013 #15

We'll see if the Republicans are willing to play chicken geek tragedy May 2013 #22

Thank you. nt woo me with science May 2013 #26

I'm willing to spend as much ...... oldhippie May 2013 #27

I know you didn't mean to, Brigid May 2013 #111

Really? How so? What is different than .... oldhippie May 2013 #112

Perhaps that the GOP types hate taxes and "big government" . . . Brigid May 2013 #114

But there are many of us here on this thread .... oldhippie May 2013 #116

You know i've seen a lot of people on the news Daniel537 May 2013 #29

The problem isn't just in America. Capitalism, and the inequity it causes, are a global crisis. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #31

+ 1 clarice May 2013 #32

Tell that to Senator Coburn. Zen Democrat May 2013 #34

It seems as though Republicans are trying to rewrite history by rewriting human ethics Jack Rabbit May 2013 #35

Repubs version of 1984! kentuck May 2013 #62

Those dbag senators can go to Ok and hand out boot straps and self-improvement books. kairos12 May 2013 #75

And prayer books Doctor_J May 2013 #106

Thatcher said there was no such thing as society and Paul said that the Galveston Hurricane of 1900 MisterP May 2013 #117

The Greater Moral Problem School Teacher May 2013 #40

Welcome to DU, School Teacher! calimary May 2013 #51

Yes it is treestar May 2013 #66

They definitely did not extend it to us JustAnotherGen May 2013 #77

Really good perspective libdude May 2013 #101

Sorry but I have to disagree. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #41

I agree with you, Ninja. Send the aid, but make sure that it is well-known which rep Nay May 2013 #64

This ^^^^^^^ treestar May 2013 #67

Democrat parallel would be to insist on defunding a % of the military for OK aid. toby jo May 2013 #44

I see no problem with reminding Oklahomans that their Senators and several Congessmen voted against HooptieWagon May 2013 #45

You should remember that Coyote_Bandit May 2013 #70

It isn't proselytizing. NutmegYankee May 2013 #73

So basically your position is quakerboy May 2013 #76

The teabaggers helped get us to this point Blue Owl May 2013 #48

Tell that to the oh-so-principled Senator from Oklahoma who wants corresponding cuts indepat May 2013 #57

Sorry mmonk. MuseRider May 2013 #59

Moral problem? Sounds Pat Robertson-like. Apophis May 2013 #61

There would be a lot more help there too if people in Oklahoma voted more liberally treestar May 2013 #65

The problem with your argument is "them." Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #68

Muslims did not elect Al Qaeda to attack anyone treestar May 2013 #69

I don't think anyone on our side is seriously considering witholding aid. NutmegYankee May 2013 #71

None of our elected officials are. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #72

Fair warning realFedUp May 2013 #78

You know what else a tragedy brings out in people? Almighty righteousness. Earth_First May 2013 #79

Bravo! txwhitedove May 2013 #81

Shana, they bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into. I say.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #82

Obviously America Is Amoral cantbeserious May 2013 #80

Helping in disasters - the core of why we have govt. grahamhgreen May 2013 #91

Well, my mother in law says that God is trying to tell us something ashling May 2013 #92

Bullshit. There is no debate. There are only a few pontificating politicians who make noise. randome May 2013 #95

They want to screw Grandma over in Detroit, not Oklahomans HereSince1628 May 2013 #96

How do we balance consequences of the choices we make duhneece May 2013 #98

money vs. compassion. mgardener May 2013 #99

This moral problem has its roots in the hearts of conservatives. nt Zorra May 2013 #100

The moral problem starts with our unending wars of aggression! peace13 May 2013 #102

We can't just let the hostage game be played out in blue states only. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #103

you're right florida08 May 2013 #104

There is no debate. It will be approved. It will be delivered with no strings Doctor_J May 2013 #105

there never has been until this year. madrchsod May 2013 #107

K and R (nt) bigwillq May 2013 #113

there is a moral problem when people like Inhofe and Coburn are part of the Doctor_J May 2013 #115