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58. Empathy is not silly.

Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:48 AM

Apr 2013

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It is desperately lacking in the sick culture we live in now.

And it is worth noting what groups, with what political agendas, in this culture constantly preach to us to abandon our empathy, and to mock it...

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I am OK with Tsarnaev getting life without parole in Supermax. [View all] Nye Bevan Apr 2013 OP

What's the point? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #1

Sorry, what "torture"? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #2

You don't think supermax prisons are torture? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #3

Of course it's not "torture". Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #4

Do other civilized countries have anything like this? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #6

Oh Manny. tblue Apr 2013 #9

I see ensuite private bathroom facilities. Plus your very own TV. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #10

So if you went to jail, you would be content with such a place? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #14

This is where empathy becomes silliness Prism Apr 2013 #29

Right; "Would you be content"? No, but I wouldn't blow up the 8 year old, either. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #31

Bingo Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #41

Empathy is not silly. woo me with science Apr 2013 #58

Good post. Thanks. (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #67

Empathy is the only hope this planet has soleft Apr 2013 #77

+1 RedCappedBandit Apr 2013 #107

+100000000000000000000000 dionysus Apr 2013 #106

Then what should prison be like? treestar Apr 2013 #39

define the torture DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #42

Solitary confinement and 23 hours a day in a 6'x9' cell. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2013 #64

yes, it is harsh DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #72

"People in these places go insane. They eat their own eyeballs and fingers...." cliffordu Apr 2013 #95

For example MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #105

Definitely torture IMO. n/t Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #19

It's hell because why? dookers Apr 2013 #28

Thank you, Manny. woo me with science Apr 2013 #38

No, it's torture. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2013 #12

I wish we could recommend individual posts BainsBane Apr 2013 #21

McCain didn't have a TV. There are TVs in the cells in the SuperMax cells. n/t Tx4obama Apr 2013 #23

McCain's cell had fresh air and more sunlight. MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #25

harsh enough, but DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #43

Thank you. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #69

Is it a violation of TOS to link to the SCORES of posts on DU Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #96

What makes a Supermax prison torture? Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #40

You get out for 1 hour a day. Maybe 2. Taverner Apr 2013 #80

Black & white TVs are in SuperMax cells. Recreational, religious, educational programs are aired n/t Tx4obama Apr 2013 #81

Eaaaaugh! That's worse than nothing!!!! Taverner Apr 2013 #82

How are black & white TVs not considered torture? octothorpe Apr 2013 #92

How often do they get to swap out books? octothorpe Apr 2013 #94

They do - about once every two weeks Taverner Apr 2013 #104

Apparently so Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #71

All prisons are torture, even (sometimes especially) county jails. Zorra Apr 2013 #87

Emotional Torture, my friend Taverner Apr 2013 #79

Ant this is how it begins Brooklyns_Finest Apr 2013 #15

What's Norway's crime rate, compared to the US? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #20

and in Norway DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #44

More info and a list of more folks that are at the Florence SuperMax on link below Tx4obama Apr 2013 #5

Looks comfortable except the concrete bed. Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #22

Actually, you can't see anything but sky dookers Apr 2013 #30

Yup, it's torture. aquart Apr 2013 #68

good; then it's settled. Schema Thing Apr 2013 #7

Always happy to help! Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #11

Regardless of what you or I or anyone thinks that will be the ultimate end.... Rowdyboy Apr 2013 #8

If I ever wish this on anybody, tblue Apr 2013 #13

+1 Lucinda Apr 2013 #17

+2 idwiyo Apr 2013 #24

What about people who favor the death penalty? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #26

Yes. morningfog Apr 2013 #61

+3 nt Live and Learn Apr 2013 #27

So what should we do with him? nt Union Scribe Apr 2013 #36

That is my question as well. n/t ChazII Apr 2013 #65

What do other civilized countries do woo me with science Apr 2013 #76

Thank you. tblue Apr 2013 #78

Then it should have been easy to tell me Union Scribe Apr 2013 #84

I'm not sure what you are finding difficult about this. woo me with science Apr 2013 #99

So, what do we do with him? nt Union Scribe Apr 2013 #83

+4 woo me with science Apr 2013 #37

+5 redStateBlueHeart Apr 2013 #88

I really think the "rot in jail" sentiment is lamentable. I'd hope some SOME of the inmates KittyWampus Apr 2013 #16

Let's have the trial first BainsBane Apr 2013 #18

I hope that some day he will be able to find rehabilitation and redemption and will be able to Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #32

If he ever got out customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #100

there was not one radical Islamic group in the world that wanted to be associated with this, - not Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #102

At this point, hell no customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #103

cruel and unusual punishment. clearly illustrated by the psych study cali Apr 2013 #33

But other than facts, you got nothing. MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #34

Compared to those who support the death penalty, am I better, just as bad, or worse? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #45

really? you think in those terms? why? cali Apr 2013 #50

Because realistically, he will either be sentenced to death, or to life in Supermax. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #53

you have to ask? I've made it clear here on numerous occasions cali Apr 2013 #57

Thank you, Cali. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #52

Corporatism, authoritarianism, torture, choosing the coldest and most inhumane woo me with science Apr 2013 #35

Compared to those who support the death penalty, am I better, just as bad, or worse? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #46

False choice, but typical for this ugly, ugly mindset. woo me with science Apr 2013 #48

Well, you may consider it a "false choice", but realistically he will either get the death penalty, Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #51

Not playing your game. woo me with science Apr 2013 #54

me 2 MFM008 Apr 2013 #47

Death would be too easy for this guy madokie Apr 2013 #49

Not just heaven. Heaven with 72 virgins (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #55

The whole concept of a Supermax prison is pure evil vindictiveness lunatica Apr 2013 #56

But not as evil as strapping someone to a gurney and injecting them with poison, right? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #60

I'm against the death penalty lunatica Apr 2013 #63

Third Way framing. Always we are urged to embrace the lesser of evils. woo me with science Apr 2013 #70

Like it or not, this is probably where he will end up. Terra Alta Apr 2013 #59

If you can't do the appalling time, then don't do the horrible crime (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #62

What he did was appalling, no doubt about that. Terra Alta Apr 2013 #66

I'm Not RobinA Apr 2013 #73

It is a bid to abandon our human ethics and compassion, woo me with science Apr 2013 #75

+1 nt Javaman Apr 2013 #74

Excellent! zappaman Apr 2013 #85

funny thing warrprayer Apr 2013 #86

What I wanna know is...how do people not go crazy in an establishment like this? redStateBlueHeart Apr 2013 #89

Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber) successfully completed three independent study courses Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #90

Hmm, at least he was able to do something productive redStateBlueHeart Apr 2013 #91

"I'm glad they have access to TV" Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #93

Only one thing's for sure, after a few years in there that 19 yr old will wish he had chosen death riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #97

Have ANY of you looked at the sentencing guidelines? DevonRex Apr 2013 #98

Hmm, serious article customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #101

I have no problem with him being put in a supermax davidpdx Apr 2013 #108