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16. I am sicken by the genocidal killing of children and their parents.

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:33 PM

Feb 2024

Did Hamas bring this on the citizens of Gaza? Absolutely and the Palestinian people have paid for those crimes 1000's of times over.

I also am saddened by the death of innocent Israelis who were murder when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th.
That was a brutal and senseless killing of innocent civilians as well and Hamas knew it would bring the wrath of Israel down on the Palestine people.

But now when Israel has decimated Gaza, to do wholesale bombing on the limited space where innocent Palestinians now try to survive and protect their children, is nothing short of murder of innocents. It makes them no better than Hamas and, in the end, Israel will become a pariah.

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Because I can't stand it any more [View all] Stinky The Clown Feb 2024 OP

It seems the parliament or the people in Israel support Netanyahu. What do we do about that? Walleye Feb 2024 #1

I think support for Netanyahu is shallow TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #5

That's THE very good question... Think. Again. Feb 2024 #7

Cut off the money! flashman13 Feb 2024 #30

Short answer yes. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2024 #2

Very difficult to understand how some of us can ignore this. marble falls Feb 2024 #3

I reject any organization that murders civilians. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #4

Going by the UN Genocide Convention: scipan Feb 2024 #6

Israel has already committed the first three, and the definition calls for any one, not all five. Lonestarblue Feb 2024 #10

Well thought out. Good piece but from 12/21/23 scipan Feb 2024 #38

The definition of genocide contains two necessary conditions, the first of which is specific intent. lapucelle Feb 2024 #59

About a third druidity33 Feb 2024 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Feb 2024 #74

It is the specific intent to annihalate "the group as such" that must be shown. lapucelle Feb 2024 #79

Well... druidity33 Feb 2024 #96

Those are the elements of the crime as set out in the Geneva Convention. lapucelle Feb 2024 #97

The ICJ ruling was not druidity33 Feb 2024 #98

The elements of the crime are the elements of the crime. That is not an argument. It is a fact. lapucelle Feb 2024 #99

What is happening in Gaza is horrific! Richard58 Feb 2024 #8

With you all the way. You don't bulldoze cemeteries if you louis-t Feb 2024 #9

Netanyahu says regularly Bettie Feb 2024 #23

Very little regard for Israeli hostages, either. Bibi is Little Putin. nt TeamProg Feb 2024 #25

Big picture it is far more important to eliminate the risk TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #50

Why is it always right wing I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2024 #29

As Obama said there is blood on both sides leftyladyfrommo Feb 2024 #11

I want innocent people to be able to live in peace and not be killed at random. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #12

It's dividing Dems & Independents. Could mean the difference between Biden winning & losing Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2024 #91

Thanks. I don't like DUers taking sides and being nasty. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #92

Here's Sen Sanders on what he thinks about "genocide" in Gaza.. Cha Feb 2024 #13

You've got to remember, Bernie is a politician. He has to walk very carefully to not upset the cart. nt TeamProg Feb 2024 #20

Sanders is stating Facts.. Cha Feb 2024 #26

Huh? "Mr. Sanders said people should be careful about using the word genocide". That's not a fact, that is an TeamProg Feb 2024 #34

The FACT is.. It's WAR that Fucking HAMAS WANTED So Cha Feb 2024 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2024 #78

"We have to do everything we can to stop the killing of innocent men, women and children" is pretty popular muriel_volestrangler Feb 2024 #66

I'm watching a goal post moved while it's happening! Torchlight Feb 2024 #37

I'm not sure that you actually know what that phrase means.. TeamProg Feb 2024 #39

Another assertion of irony Torchlight Feb 2024 #40

See, I was right. You could not answer or come up with an example. Here is something for you: TeamProg Feb 2024 #41

No question asked, Torchlight Feb 2024 #44

Facts not opinions. sheshe2 Feb 2024 #101

This is what I cannot stand Richard D Feb 2024 #14

None of us can or should - if that is even true. Was she under oath? My point being that I don't think that anyone TeamProg Feb 2024 #36

The fact that . . . Richard D Feb 2024 #53

"(not that there are real innocents in Gaza)" ??? DemocraticPatriot Feb 2024 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Feb 2024 #70

You are correct. Richard D Feb 2024 #80

Thank you. redqueen Feb 2024 #82

Thank you for understanding Richard D Feb 2024 #86

I'm agnostic leaning towards atheist redqueen Feb 2024 #95

There is a mystical branch of Islam Richard D Feb 2024 #100

Your "under oath" question is irrelevant. Scruffy1 Feb 2024 #76

Sure, but exaggerating, embellishing are common. Under oath narrows those possibilities. You are making severe claims so TeamProg Feb 2024 #88

Totally agree that Netanyahu is a murderer and a thug. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2024 #15

I am sicken by the genocidal killing of children and their parents. Fla Dem Feb 2024 #16

" It makes them no better than Hamas and, in the end, Israel will become a pariah." The world's judgement will not be TeamProg Feb 2024 #18

They are at pariah status now. Netanyahu fucked Israel's future over for decades. Sky Jewels Feb 2024 #19

This. nt TeamProg Feb 2024 #24

Thank you! Goddessartist Feb 2024 #68

"Did Hamas bring this on the citizens of Gaza? " I think that's debatable. nt TeamProg Feb 2024 #21

What was the alternative? TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #27

Too many to list. It is however clear, that Bibi wanted nothing more than to use any means to complete his forced TeamProg Feb 2024 #28

So nothing. TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #45

History will not be kind. TeamProg Feb 2024 #48

Still nothing. TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #51

History will not be kind. TeamProg Feb 2024 #52

Very well stated Evolve Dammit Feb 2024 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Feb 2024 #17

This is the Warsaw Ghetto all over again. Shame on Netanyahu and all the extremists who sail in him. Ford_Prefect Feb 2024 #22

The irony is thick, the plot is thin, the history will be rich in sadness. nt TeamProg Feb 2024 #32

I get the sense you have no idea TexasDem69 Feb 2024 #46

I beg very much to differ. Ford_Prefect Feb 2024 #63

The information that you cite does not support your claim. N/T lapucelle Feb 2024 #81

I agree with you 100%. Two wrongs do not make anything right. flashman13 Feb 2024 #31

We've been seeing it. onecaliberal Feb 2024 #33

This is creating a split in the democratic party. Mosby Feb 2024 #35

It isn't. This will be old news by late summer. Some other fucking crisis will supplant this. SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #42

I'm with you. It's why my time here is limited. sellitman Feb 2024 #90

Genocide is a strong word. WarGamer Feb 2024 #43

No we are not seeing genocide in Gaza TexasDem69 Feb 2024 #47

Agreed!!! sellitman Feb 2024 #94

No, not genocide. It's a war started by Hamas. Patton French Feb 2024 #54

You really can't blame EndlessWire Feb 2024 #56

I agree Hamas and bibi can both be genocidal JT45242 Feb 2024 #57

Not just netanyahu redqueen Feb 2024 #71

Agreed...but if he was removed would that faction shrink JT45242 Feb 2024 #83

I am not consuming tons of news on it BootinUp Feb 2024 #58

DURec leftstreet Feb 2024 #60

It's not a genocide. It's war Arazi Feb 2024 #61

Those are not exclusive. But carry on. NT. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #65

"30,000 dead Palestinians is just plain inexcusable." EX500rider Feb 2024 #62

Just a thought... Roy Rolling Feb 2024 #67

100% Goddessartist Feb 2024 #69

I agree Stinky Be The Light Feb 2024 #73

Netanyahu bdamomma Feb 2024 #75

This is what Hamas wants. They don't call it genocide, they call it jihad martyrdom. LeftInTX Feb 2024 #77

Governing is too hard. nt BootinUp Feb 2024 #84

Governing is too hard, just let Putin handle it. Nt BootinUp Feb 2024 #85

No Mountainguy Feb 2024 #87

So here we are. the_sly_pig Feb 2024 #89

Putin is clapping. Nothing. I mean nothing will distract me from the election. themaguffin Feb 2024 #93