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H2O Man

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Tue Jun 23, 2020, 10:49 AM Jun 2020

One Thing Leads to Another [View all]

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The West Point staggering ramp exit led to a long, incoherent ramble in Tulsa, which led to the defeated body language on the walk across the White House lawn. This led me to think about a few recent conversation with some friends and associates about Trump's mental state and physical health. I can easily sum up his mental state: Trump is, by every definition, a sociopath, and he is currently in a bitter, angry mood.

In a recent conversation, a person I know well and trust in terms of accuracy and I focused on Trump's recent behaviors. I stated that I think it fits firmly in what is to be expected of a sociopath. My friend said that this is obviously part of it, but that there is increasing concern among those in the administration, and republicans in both houses of Congress, about Trump's physical health.

I had seen a few people had suggested the ramp walk indicated Parkinson's disease, which I did not agree with. My friend said that he agreed it wasn't indicated at this time. Instead, he said that the republicans in DC were concerned that Trump has been displaying -- and not merely in one awkward attempt to walk down a ramp -- symptoms of progressive supranuclear palsy, a type of dementia that involves the gradual deterioration of the same parts of the brain that sociopathy is rooted.

There had been a thing on facebook about this after that ramp walk. I told my friend that I assumed it was wishful thinking upon anti-Trump people's part. He said three things that I found important: first, that it was people within the administration that were whispering about PSP months before the ramp walk, that I should speak to some medical experts, and that if indeed it is PSP, things will be far worse between now and January.

In the past, I would have immediately contacted a cousin who was the head of neurology at Temple, but he is no longer living. Luckily, as a result of long-term damage from boxing, and shorter-term issues from a serious brain injury, I know other medical professionals who patiently answer my questions. Thus, I focused on the two that are most responsive to my calls. Both of them, I should add, are generally non-political, a factor that prevented me from being able to keep their focus off of my issues when I was in their care.

Both said that one could never diagnose PSP without seeing a patient in person. The ramp walk alone could be related to several other factors. Both said that no one would look at Trump and say he appears to be in good health. In fact, his reportedly poor diet would be of interest to a physician, including if one were concerned about other symptoms of PSP that Trump has displayed at various times. But, at this point, PSP would be one of several "rule outs" a doctor would have in mind.

I asked one of the two if it was likely that his behaviors were simply those of an aging , over-weight sociopath under severe stress? She said that while mental health issues are not her area of study, it is one of several possibilities. She noted that from what she has seen since he entered the 2016 republican primary, his range of moods appears to be limited to paranoid, furious, and pleasure when bullying a target of his fears and anger.

She added one thing that sticks with me. The combination of sociopathy and PSP would create a synergy that would be especially dangerous to this country if Trump thought he was going to lose the November election. PSP can progress rapidly once a cluster of symptoms appear. One thing leads to another.
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One Thing Leads to Another [View all] H2O Man Jun 2020 OP
Great and insightful post. Thank you. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #1
I always liked that song. H2O Man Jun 2020 #5
Yes. He will want to. luvtheGWN Jun 2020 #13
I think he has been trying to do that by attempting to get Covid to kill a lot of people. LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #14
Ominous... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #2
Yes, definitely. H2O Man Jun 2020 #6
Disturbing niyad Jun 2020 #3
Very much so. H2O Man Jun 2020 #7
Even to the untrained eye coeur_de_lion Jun 2020 #4
I agree. H2O Man Jun 2020 #9
I think they would find their elections more successful coeur_de_lion Jun 2020 #25
While I agree, H2O Man Jun 2020 #28
Another great post malaise Jun 2020 #8
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #10
That will be my lasting memory of the end malaise Jun 2020 #11
I know it H2O Man Jun 2020 #29
That photo is the literal unraveling malaise Jun 2020 #30
Yes! H2O Man Jun 2020 #32
My fear is he is being backed into a corner. BarbD Jun 2020 #12
I agree 100% H2O Man Jun 2020 #31
I think he has a severe form of arthritis! blakstoneranger Jun 2020 #15
Interesting. H2O Man Jun 2020 #33
Another OP posted today suggested a stroke affecting the left side of his brain. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #16
Right. H2O Man Jun 2020 #36
How nice they're all concerned about its health... Pluvious Jun 2020 #17
Seriously, right? H2O Man Jun 2020 #37
Yeah. No kidding. calimary Jun 2020 #38
I agree with your doctor friends. malthaussen Jun 2020 #18
I tend to agree ..... H2O Man Jun 2020 #39
My Dad lived almost ten years with PSP...his mind was clear...but he had difficulty walking, Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #19
Thank you for sharing H2O Man Jun 2020 #40
It is a terrible disease...My Dad was treated with Parkinson drugs and anti seizure medicine. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #43
That is one thing H2O Man Jun 2020 #44
Very kind of you to say that. He was a wonderful man... Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #45
One of my favorite songs. And I'm mainly a rock/metal guy. CaptainTruth Jun 2020 #20
It is a great song. H2O Man Jun 2020 #41
Thoughtful post, thank you. cp Jun 2020 #21
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #42
Whatever he's got, all we need to know is that he never should have inflicted himself in our lives UTUSN Jun 2020 #22
Interesting. I did a quick search on Google Scholar for publications since 2019... NNadir Jun 2020 #23
Great Post For Two Reasons ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #24
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2020 #26
⭐️K&R⭐️ spanone Jun 2020 #27
It's always something. If it's not one thing, it's another. JHB Jun 2020 #34
Ha! H2O Man Jun 2020 #35
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