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Straw Man

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58. And dozens of others are immensely grateful that he WAS "slowed down."

Reply to EffieBlack (Reply #55)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:01 PM

Nov 2018

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They probably would have preferred that he’d been slowed down BEFORE he legally bought that gun.

OK -- let's talk concrete action plans. What are you proposing to achieve that?

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Thousand Oaks shooter shot all the security at the club first. [View all] Cattledog Nov 2018 OP

Mentally unstable?? Not a chance Roland99 Nov 2018 #1

Seriously? LisaL Nov 2018 #12

He purposefully took out security. he knew what he was doing. Roland99 Nov 2018 #15

That doesn't exclude mental instability. LisaL Nov 2018 #21

being mentally unstable qazplm135 Nov 2018 #51

you got that right, Roland99 Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #61

And planned it AwakeAtLast Nov 2018 #62

If only there had been SEVEN good guys with guns, that would have done it. sfwriter Nov 2018 #2

Right. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #4

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is 100 good guys with guns. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2018 #52

There was an officer at the Pulse shooting zipplewrath Nov 2018 #3

Yes, there was. Straw Man Nov 2018 #9

Well in this particular case the killer shot the officer first. LisaL Nov 2018 #13

No, he shot an unarmed security guard first. Straw Man Nov 2018 #17

Where does it say that security guard wasn't armed? LisaL Nov 2018 #23

They said that the security guards weren't armed on at least 3 news reports I heard this morning. WillowTree Nov 2018 #24

Right. Straw Man Nov 2018 #27

If the guard had several weapons strapped to his body, he wouldn't have had a chance to pull it. Hoyt Nov 2018 #31

The officer that was killed was armed. He certainly was carrying pink balloons on his hip. Blue_true Nov 2018 #38

Beg pardon? Straw Man Nov 2018 #46

That is not what news reports say. Blue_true Nov 2018 #47

Could you please cite those news reports? Straw Man Nov 2018 #48

A Reuthers or AP report yesterday detailed the events. Blue_true Nov 2018 #49

Could you please point it out to me? Straw Man Nov 2018 #53

Look, I read the article. I read a lot of articles. Blue_true Nov 2018 #56

OK. Show them to me so I can read them too. Straw Man Nov 2018 #57

You find them. I don't make up stuff like that. Blue_true Nov 2018 #59

They're your assertions. It's not my job to support them. Straw Man Nov 2018 #60

Armed and trained EffieBlack Nov 2018 #54

It would also save lives if every motherfucker with a pulse wasn't able to go out and buy a whole f raccoon Nov 2018 #26

I wouldn't call one handgun ... Straw Man Nov 2018 #28

Seriously? Really? ChubbyStar Nov 2018 #29

THANK YOU. NT raccoon Nov 2018 #33

Yes, seriously. Straw Man Nov 2018 #45

I guess I was thinking of that killer here in South Carolina raccoon Nov 2018 #32

At least 11 grieving families are taking little comfort in him being "slowed down" AFTER he EffieBlack Nov 2018 #55

And dozens of others are immensely grateful that he WAS "slowed down." Straw Man Nov 2018 #58

A planned attack?? atreides1 Nov 2018 #5

What will be the solution that Trump, Republicans, and the NRA say is needed? LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #6

So much for be safe if there are good guys with guns around. sinkingfeeling Nov 2018 #7

Are you saying that the outcome would have been better ... Straw Man Nov 2018 #11

Nope. I think the point essme Nov 2018 #14

I'm sorry, but ... Straw Man Nov 2018 #18

He shot the security guards first. I have not read how long it took sinkingfeeling Nov 2018 #19

The security guards were not armed. Straw Man Nov 2018 #43

The Sheriff said there were five off duty police officers inside the club. Blue_true Nov 2018 #39

If they were drinking, they should not have been armed. Straw Man Nov 2018 #42

The security guy was unarmed. cwydro Nov 2018 #22

he was trained in assault tactics in the military. it shouldn't surprise anyone. maxsolomon Nov 2018 #8

Exactly. LisaL Nov 2018 #10

A witness said he used smoke bombs for cover. Trained well, by the US military. Autumn Nov 2018 #16

The security guard was unarmed. cwydro Nov 2018 #20

The off duty police did not have guns Raine Nov 2018 #25

FBI agent, happened in Denver Fla_Democrat Nov 2018 #35

Thanks Raine Nov 2018 #36

How about ankle pieces? The rule needs to change. Blue_true Nov 2018 #41

That's exactly what will happen in schools too. Hoyt Nov 2018 #30

They obviously did not have enough security major debacle Nov 2018 #34

Do off duty police in California carry a concealed weapon? Blue_true Nov 2018 #37

He was a marine combat veteran Azathoth Nov 2018 #40

yep not a deranged high school kid...this guy was trained dembotoz Nov 2018 #50

It doesn't matter if there is an armed cop or armed security guard present. DesertRat Nov 2018 #44