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EndlessWire

(6,580 posts)
97. Not a time for any of us to be faint hearted.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:56 AM
Mar 2020

The Primaries are not the main work to be done. November 3rd is what we have to turn out for in fearsome droves.

"So I'm not in favor of risking it all in trying to sell Americans on socialism as much as I love Scandanavia." So, are you a pure Socialist? Because, otherwise you are projecting the same thinking that the average American gets criticized for when they reject the "Democratic Socialism" form of government. You have also called it socialism.

Maybe I haven't got it right, but I do not look at my Social Security as a freebie. The government took money out of my paycheck my entire working life, so I feel like it's work I did coming home to roost. I'm not embarrassed by it.

The point of my previous post was to point out that most citizens get it when they are told that Donald Trump and the TP are fascists. They can see this with every day that passes. We are not in a position to debate the finer points of "Social Democracy" and "Democratic Socialism." Trump is turning the United States into Trumplandia. He for sure isn't striving for any kind of government which might accrue to the benefit of We The People. No, he is in it for himself and his spawn. That's all. And he is willing to shred the Constitution in order to do it. I feel that Socialism will also want to shred the Constitution.

We are a long way from being perfect, for sure. But, we were getting better. As soon as Trump arrived, all those base-thinking people were given permission to come out from under their rocks. What a surprise to the rest of us! I certainly think that we can have anything we want if we figure out how to pay for it. But, it has to be a democratic decision by ALL of us, and not just by some people who got elected and then ran off with all the marbles.

We MUST win in November. I agree with you that this might not be enough to get rid of Trump and his thugs. I fear that. But, I do not choose to live under a dictator, and we have to find a way to get rid of Trump and to restore our country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Thank you, progree Cha Mar 2020 #1
Thanks for the instantaneous response: First response and first rec. 💜 💜 progree Mar 2020 #54
Blue hearts are fine! 3catwoman3 Mar 2020 #59
I forgot! I didn't even think of that. These were old emoticons I collected from DU progree Mar 2020 #63
You're Welcome! Cha Mar 2020 #65
thanks you! Walleye Mar 2020 #2
Thanks. I know it could not have been easy for you still_one Mar 2020 #3
Good reasoning. William769 Mar 2020 #4
Hard wisdom to come by, but we need more of this PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #5
Thank you!!!! Peacetrain Mar 2020 #6
Thank you oldtime dfl_er Mar 2020 #7
Thank you! Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #8
The reason I'm not enthusiastically supporting Bernie this time ibegurpard Mar 2020 #9
Well said n/t Bradshaw3 Mar 2020 #12
We need less hate in our party IronLionZion Mar 2020 #47
Respect for your truth. blm Mar 2020 #10
Thank you, progree. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #11
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #50
Joe Biden worked tirelessly to get the ACA passed. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #53
+ 1000 for your pragmatic conclusion and TYVM for voting it. n/t MFGsunny Mar 2020 #13
Thanks much for the thanks progree Mar 2020 #14
Thank you progree, you did something the GOP cannot do, you voted what is best for the country redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #102
Thank you. Nt helpisontheway Mar 2020 #15
Thank you. You do your candidate proud. nolabear Mar 2020 #16
Thank you. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #17
All I seem to be saying today is... marcopolo63 Mar 2020 #18
I Am Praying........ McKim Mar 2020 #109
I totally agree! marcopolo63 Mar 2020 #110
Rob Reiner told Chris Hayes last night that this BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #19
Thank you for the transparency scrabblequeen40 Mar 2020 #20
Thanks! Owl Mar 2020 #21
Thank You Stuart G Mar 2020 #22
A special kudos to you, Stuart. Thank you right back! +++ 😂😂😂 n/t progree Mar 2020 #56
Congratulations!! NCProgressive Mar 2020 #23
Yes, sometime you have to go with your head, not your heart. Fla Dem Mar 2020 #24
I think both Bernie and Elizabeth can beat Trump. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #25
I do regret not giving enuff consideration to Warren progree Mar 2020 #35
My thoughts exactly. Spent years listening to Bernie on Hartman and wish we had an electorate smart Pepsidog Mar 2020 #26
Likewise, and I've known Bernie for nearly 30 years wicket Mar 2020 #27
Kudos to you progree! Let's beat Trump redstateblues Mar 2020 #28
... mcar Mar 2020 #29
Bernie chose long time ago to brand himself with the nuanced ToxMarz Mar 2020 #30
Not borderline quakerboy Mar 2020 #57
We need a Democrat in the White House. warmfeet Mar 2020 #31
Reluctantly, I agree. Tho my children don't RiverStone Mar 2020 #32
Yes MFM008 Mar 2020 #33
I have concerns too. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #34
Thank you. I could have almost written that same post. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #36
Hey... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #37
Thank you. kstewart33 Mar 2020 #38
yes hes had issues but hes a saint and a Rhodes Scholar next to trump*.. samnsara Mar 2020 #42
Thank you, thank you, thank you grantcart Mar 2020 #39
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Mar 2020 #40
yeas ago I campaigned hard for one candidate and in the booth I voted for the other... samnsara Mar 2020 #41
Thanks, sounds like me, tho I didn't campaign for him that hard, but glad to hear that progree Mar 2020 #67
Thank you... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #43
It's ultimately all about beating trump radical noodle Mar 2020 #44
" It's ultimately all about beating trump" progree Mar 2020 #68
Thank you! Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #45
You Sir, or Madam, are a great Democrat. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #46
So, same old, same old DiverDave Mar 2020 #48
Yes, my conscience is 100%, 1000% clean n/t progree Mar 2020 #58
Well stated. mzmolly Mar 2020 #49
Facing facts is good for the country. I am a big Pete and Warren fan amuse bouche Mar 2020 #51
I respect your decision socialist cyclist Mar 2020 #52
Thanks for your nice and thoughtful reply. Much appreciated. I very much respect ur vote too. nt progree Mar 2020 #60
I appreciate this was difficult Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #55
I never vote against the guy I really want TheFarseer Mar 2020 #61
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I won't bother to try and make an argument TheFarseer Mar 2020 #79
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For a long time Bernie supporter TheFarseer Mar 2020 #85
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You were so pissed at me you replied twice!? TheFarseer Mar 2020 #80
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Ok. I otoh do my sincere best to vote strategically so the power Hortensis Mar 2020 #72
Well I agree with that TheFarseer Mar 2020 #81
Exactly. Very odd things going on with what pollsters Hortensis Mar 2020 #96
It's pretty sad that that no self-declared Socialist (or "social democrat" ) is going to win Glaisne Mar 2020 #62
"It's pretty sad that that no self-declared Socialist (or "social democrat" ) is going to win" progree Mar 2020 #70
You thought it thru, and reached, IMO, a very logical... 3catwoman3 Mar 2020 #64
Sigh. Richard58 Mar 2020 #66
I understand EndlessWire Mar 2020 #73
Good post. But most European Parties do not generally call, or considered themselves Socialist GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #87
"Oh, there are 50,000 of them" Yeah! count me in! 50,001 now.... progree Mar 2020 #91
Not a time for any of us to be faint hearted. EndlessWire Mar 2020 #97
If Biden wins the nomination, I'll support him because Trump, but ... MainSt99 Mar 2020 #74
Ughh. This deserves a response. Bernie will turn 80 in his first year of office progree Mar 2020 #77
The Dotard is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, just the loudest and the lyingest. Marcuse Mar 2020 #78
Well said. Duppers Mar 2020 #75
A big hattip to you, progree peggysue2 Mar 2020 #76
THANK YOU, progree! calimary Mar 2020 #83
Great post. You have a way with words. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #88
" You have a way with words." -- you are utterly kind beyond belief. Last time I heard that progree Mar 2020 #89
Me, too Randomthought Mar 2020 #90
In all this fan mail (and I know it's a one day phenomonon only), I sure appreciate this progree Mar 2020 #93
Delusional idiot is harsh but I've said the same type of thing Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #92
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Biden is toast vs the monster lefthandedskyhook Mar 2020 #98
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Great thread Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #101
You crystallized my thoughts on this - I backed Senator Sanders up until the 2016 convention Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #103
My knock on Bernie? He's imagining he can get done in a single 4-year term... MrModerate Mar 2020 #104
I couldn't agree more. Mickju Mar 2020 #105
Bravo, progree. Sogo Mar 2020 #106
Well thought out. Laripu Mar 2020 #107
Well stated. hay rick Mar 2020 #108
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