Democratic Primaries

Mike 03

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77. "Why speculate?" This forum is 80% speculation. It's the Primaries Forum.

Reply to BlueWI (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:50 PM

Feb 2020

We're all trying to speculate as to the identity of the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Has Bernie Sanders Hit His Ceiling? [View all] MineralMan Feb 2020 OP

Has Joe Biden found the floor or can he still fall a little further? Negativity helps no one. PTWB Feb 2020 #1

Although Joe Biden's face is at the bottom of my post, MineralMan Feb 2020 #5

agree. While BS may have done well in IA & NH, those 2 states do not represent the rest of America onetexan Feb 2020 #17

In less than three weeks, we'll be hearing from many MineralMan Feb 2020 #27

+1000 BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #14

But you just did it. Cha Feb 2020 #88

Umm, I'd wait until the field gets down to less than 6 candidates before we talk about "ceilings". DanTex Feb 2020 #2

Thank you !!! DaDeacon Feb 2020 #16

Then explain why Biden voters in NH squirecam Feb 2020 #21

Biden still got 9%. Not all Biden voters went to Amy and Pete Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #42

Don't dodge. squirecam Feb 2020 #44

They weren't Biden voters in the first place if they voted for someone else with Biden on the ticket Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #47

Your post makes no sense. squirecam Feb 2020 #51

I voted for Biden in New Hampshire PatSeg Feb 2020 #63

Well he brought in more young people in NH than ever before and got more young votes Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #3

that's not what i saw. mopinko Feb 2020 #26

Oh well if you saw it by all means please post the statistics. I could be wrong. Im Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #37

i'm not seeing # of voters by age anywhere in your links. just %. mopinko Feb 2020 #50

Where are the numbers that support your claim that ehrnst Feb 2020 #76

Snaps! Cha Feb 2020 #89

The young vote was down...as it always is. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #49

FactCheck Posts Sanders Spins Young Voter Turnout in Iowa Gothmog Feb 2020 #86

OMG!!! Cha Feb 2020 #90

I found this article to be helpful Gothmog Feb 2020 #91

Starting the concern trolling early? BlueWI Feb 2020 #4

We are beginning to see the returns from actual primaries, MineralMan Feb 2020 #11

The numbers do not support your premise. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #30

I'm not going to discuss this with you. MineralMan Feb 2020 #70

"Why speculate?" This forum is 80% speculation. It's the Primaries Forum. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #77

Not all of us are speculating. BlueWI Feb 2020 #84

Bernie should've EASILY won NH; its his neighboring state. Pete's on his heels. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #6

If we nominate Bloomberg it's over in my opinion. The last thing voters will want is another totodeinhere Feb 2020 #81

Right now, Bloomberg leads trump by more than any other candidate. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #83

The morning consult poll belies most of your assumptions. Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #7

In Stock Market terms it is a resistance level judeling Feb 2020 #18

So, 65-83% prefer other candidates as their second choices? TwilightZone Feb 2020 #35

If it becomes a two-person race then you'll likely have to start looking at 3rd and 4th choices. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #40

Sure, but we can guess that roughly 2/3 of them will. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #58

Oh dear. That won't play well! Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #38

Has there been enough veiled Sanders-bashing? FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #8

its yet another post along the lines of a horse race mentality Locrian Feb 2020 #19

Issues don't matter at this point. Any Democrat who can win is fine with me... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #55

I think we're about to find out. dchill Feb 2020 #9

Bernie seems to be hitting the ceiling, and Biden seems to be at140 Feb 2020 #10

Yes. Joe Biden seems to be falling back. MineralMan Feb 2020 #13

Yes, as Biden said, 99.5% of blacks have not voted yet. at140 Feb 2020 #25

Warren supporters outside of DU go to Bernie in the greatest numbers from the polls I've seen. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #12

Probably correct because... at140 Feb 2020 #28

I notice some responses immediately pivoted to Biden. I would take those as "yes" in response! George II Feb 2020 #15

The answer to your question is No... DaDeacon Feb 2020 #20

You'd think so, wouldn't you? MineralMan Feb 2020 #23

Well, some of us have a candidate showing at the bottom of MineralMan Feb 2020 #22

No, it's just that if Bernie is at his ceiling what does that say about Joe? totodeinhere Feb 2020 #82

I think whether Joe Biden has hit his floor is the more important question. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #24

Well, Mayor Pete has done quite well in IA and NH, I'd say. MineralMan Feb 2020 #29

Yes, he's done well so far. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #31

What specifically leads you to believe that the first two steps in a marathon LanternWaste Feb 2020 #32

Well, here's the thing: I'm looking both at polling and actual results. MineralMan Feb 2020 #34

No matter what happens to BS in the primaries, BS will likely repeat his 2016 empedocles Feb 2020 #33

No ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #36

Well, I guess that settles that, then. MineralMan Feb 2020 #39

see https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1224105238656946176 ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #56

Donations don't directly translate to votes. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #59

true . . . ish. I think people that donate to a campaign are likely to vote for it ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #79

The Revolution Has Not Yet Arrived Gothmog Feb 2020 #87

15.8% and 8.4% jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #41

It's true. Biden hasn't fared all that well in the first two states. MineralMan Feb 2020 #45

The fixation on Biden is fascinating given he's by far the least threatening to Bernie HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #57

Odd that you're raising this issue in one of the countless threads here jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #68

Biden got 9% and received zero delegates. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #43

Yes. That's true. So, he's not all that interesting right now, is he? MineralMan Feb 2020 #46

LOL melman Feb 2020 #48

Why are you laughing? MineralMan Feb 2020 #52

There are a huge number of Democrats who will never switch to Bernie. honest.abe Feb 2020 #53

You could be right. MineralMan Feb 2020 #54

Bernie has a following, not a movement. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #60

Never bothered any Biden supporters that he had a 30% ceiling in the polls. denem Feb 2020 #61

Biden's average peaked in the 40s. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #64

Biden's been stuck bouncing off 30% since September. denem Feb 2020 #65

That doesn't make your assertion any more accurate. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #66

It most certainly is .... denem Feb 2020 #67

Not quite.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #62

Sanders customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #69

Considering there are 3 top runners this time I'd say probably. Doremus Feb 2020 #71

With Biden now much weakened we really don't know who gets most "minority" votes Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #72

Years ago. -nt Amimnoch Feb 2020 #73

Well, that's a position with a good argument for it. MineralMan Feb 2020 #74

so lets look at some Data booley Feb 2020 #75

I guess it's true . The grass always looks browner on the other side lunasun Feb 2020 #78

You are drawing a lot of conclusions from just two contests. Let see how Bernie does going forward totodeinhere Feb 2020 #80

Bernie Sanders has some problems Gothmog Feb 2020 #85

New Hampshire Turnout Wasn't Driven By Bernie's Base Gothmog Feb 2020 #92

Boink. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #93

Bernie Sanders is powered by a loyal base, but results in Iowa and New Hampshire show the movement h Gothmog Feb 2020 #94