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Gothmog

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58. trump has a great oppo file on sanders
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:47 PM
Jan 2020

Trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

They ignored the fact that Sanders had not yet faced a real campaign against him. Clinton was in the delicate position of dealing with a large portion of voters who treated Sanders more like the Messiah than just another candidate. She was playing the long game—attacking Sanders strongly enough to win, but gently enough to avoid alienating his supporters. Given her overwhelming support from communities of color—for example, about 70 percent of African-American voters cast their ballot for her—Clinton had a firewall that would be difficult for Sanders to breach....

So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....

The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I don’t know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
A particular JFK speech made him nauseous is actually what he said ... mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #1
Another hit piece on Bernie. I'm getting tired of it. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #2
You do know that these statements about sanders will be used by trump? Gothmog Jan 2020 #6
And what will trump say? booley Jan 2020 #39
trump would have a fun time painting sanders as the friend of our enemy and a hater of JFK Gothmog Jan 2020 #41
Maybe we should not base our strategy around what a liar may say? booley Jan 2020 #56
In the real world these negative ads work Gothmog Jan 2020 #57
The Cuban Missile crisis could have been avoided. U.S.policy towards Cuba brought the missiles. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #48
LOL Skittles Jan 2020 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #8
actually, stating the facts *IS* vetting Skittles Jan 2020 #11
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #12
"It's obvious that the Warren campaign has a lot of ex-Clinton staffers on it" betsuni Jan 2020 #13
that is some serious paranoia right there Skittles Jan 2020 #15
lol@HillaryCT! Cha Jan 2020 #22
This is kids stuff compred to what comes if he wins the momination. RandySF Jan 2020 #18
... LexVegas Jan 2020 #19
Yes, hitting him with these things called facts BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #20
Yohablo, if background articles on a candidate strike you Hortensis Jan 2020 #29
Yes, we've all done our homework. Seems we are reading a different set of articles. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #49
:) For SURE about that last. I've been constantly amazed, for Hortensis Jan 2020 #50
+1 betsuni Jan 2020 #55
Too bad. Cha Jan 2020 #44
"conventional politics or liberalism was not what was relevant" betsuni Jan 2020 #3
I don't know, it sounds like he was disgusted by what was said in the debate rather than mahina Jan 2020 #4
Sanders' support of Cuba and Fidel Castro is something that trump would use Gothmog Jan 2020 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #9
LOL betsuni Jan 2020 #10
It was an idiotic policy to try to assassinate Castro ritapria Jan 2020 #14
Uh huh BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #21
Morales was in the process of stealing an election that was illegitimate in the first place. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #24
Well said. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #27
+1 Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #36
+1,000 InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #51
RandySF, thanks for posting this. :) Sloumeau Jan 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Jan 2020 #17
K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #23
This is merely the tip of the iceberg peggysue2 Jan 2020 #25
From the article: guillaumeb Jan 2020 #26
Wow. 1987. About a speech in 1960. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2020 #28
Yeah, they "fish" for Biden, too. Cha Jan 2020 #45
ironic. boomer_wv Jan 2020 #30
A Shocking quote from Joe in 1977 ritapria Jan 2020 #31
Well, well, well .. looky here! Shocking is right rita! How is this not a reason to vote no on Joe? InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #52
So is "dredging up" old comments and votes from candiates ok or not Bradshaw3 Jan 2020 #32
I'll put Bernie's past up against Joe's ANY DAY! Its WAY past time Joe is vetted, as Bernie has been InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #53
As disturbing as Sanders support for Fidel Castro--whose widespread abuses... The Valley Below Jan 2020 #33
Great post! NurseJackie Jan 2020 #37
That's helpful. kacekwl Jan 2020 #34
Jealousy? NYMinute Jan 2020 #35
So? Polybius Jan 2020 #38
This points to a reason I would vote for Sanders if the election was today. David__77 Jan 2020 #40
So which do you think he believes? That JFK was an inspiriation or disgusted him? ehrnst Jan 2020 #42
ME TOO! Compare Bernie's mild statements to Joe's harsh words around the same time. OUCH!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #54
Bernie Sanders' real problem isn't Elizabeth Warren. It's Donald Trump Gothmog Jan 2020 #43
Thank you! Cha Jan 2020 #46
I have worked on real campaigns and I know how oppo is weaponized Gothmog Jan 2020 #47
trump has a great oppo file on sanders Gothmog Jan 2020 #58
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