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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
65. Sorry to hear it. Perhaps your neighbors are
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 09:39 AM
Dec 2019

responding in kind to your behaviors? Frankly, my smiles at conservatives can be pretty fake these days also, but I know they're not going anywhere. They'll always be with us. Even more certain is that this will pass and we will live in whatever comes next, much better or dreadful.

My thought is that we should create and embark on a new liberal era of advancement of national wellbeing. Now. When that does happens (preferably now, not 40 years from now while climbing out from some dreadful national holocaust), fear and hate will be replaced by the security and confidence we knew during the last liberal era that ended in 1978.

With better times, people will get nicer again and more generous. People will also reject extremism and the calls of destructive leaders. Conservatives will reject calls for hate and elect better conservative leaders. We know this because these things always happen when fear is replaced with feelings of security. And, back to what we were discussing, most RWers will choose to forget and deny they were part of what their party became, and political divisions will once again narrow to merely generating the contempt and irritation that remind people not to talk politics.

My top reason for supporting VP Biden for president is that he's the one candidate who calls for rescuing and strengthening our democracy and restoring confidence and national wellbeing as our top priority. The giant, critical, existential goal all other goals are dependent on.

That's why he talks to all Americans, and because our presidents must represent their nation, not one party. But there's not a chance he'd choose a Republican running mate, he'd be more likely to stick a butter knife in his eye to see how that worked.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Thank you for this, hpd.. I think Jeff Fecke says it well.. Cha Dec 2019 #1
Great tweet, Cha! Thanks! highplainsdem Dec 2019 #2
you're Welcome! Cha Dec 2019 #4
Very few people fucking GET IT. nt UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #6
Or want to. Cha Dec 2019 #14
:) Everyone gets it? Hortensis Dec 2019 #55
The Republicans have been consistent. They live to block & delay Democrats at every turn! OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #16
So true. Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #72
Thank you! Correct on all of them. Bernie makes a point R B Garr Dec 2019 #3
Good post. nt sheshe2 Dec 2019 #5
K&R! nt TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #7
It was a gaffe on Biden's part. nt Gore1FL Dec 2019 #8
Work with repugs? That's a joke, right? Ferrets are Cool Dec 2019 #9
☝️ X a zillion OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #17
The more I think about this, the more upset I get. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2019 #43
X 3 zillion LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #19
That's not fussing Kurt V. Dec 2019 #10
Warren was a Republican almost 30 years ago, BEFORE she ever entered politics. pnwmom Dec 2019 #11
He's not actually considering a Republican running mate. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #30
While I am not one who is BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #12
AMEN!!! That was so well written. thank you! floppyboo Dec 2019 #18
I didn't say Warren was a politician. I said she was a Republican. I do not believe she somehow highplainsdem Dec 2019 #21
thanks. well said. stopdiggin Dec 2019 #24
You have not BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #66
I don't consider Warren superior to our other candidates. Not all of them, anyway. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #70
It's probably a good call for you not BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #74
You make some very good points here gristy Dec 2019 #13
Lots of voters don't do partisan. They don't like what they view as partisan politics. Now they emmaverybo Dec 2019 #15
At some point, reality will become clear. MasonDreams Dec 2019 #20
Reality is that Sanders couldn't get the nomination last time, and won't this time. Democrats who highplainsdem Dec 2019 #22
Absolutely!! And here's some numbers that back that up from NYT/Sienna poll Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #33
Only 25% of people who could vote identify as Democrats. MasonDreams Dec 2019 #73
Comparing Bernie Sanders to Joe picking a Republican JonLP24 Dec 2019 #23
And the VP can cast tie breaking vote in the senate burrowowl Dec 2019 #25
Biden isn't going to pick a Republican. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #32
I'm just addressing the hypothetical JonLP24 Dec 2019 #34
Do you want to take the chance that Bernie would choose The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #36
I wouldn't think along those lines JonLP24 Dec 2019 #41
Jill Stein/Nader voters are people whose arrogant notions of their own political purity The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #44
I voted for a Democrat in every general election every primary possible JonLP24 Dec 2019 #46
I blame white women for Trump... druidity33 Dec 2019 #54
Given Sanders..... boomer_wv Dec 2019 #45
Actually don't think his campaign picks are as bad as people make them out to be JonLP24 Dec 2019 #47
You might think so. boomer_wv Dec 2019 #50
JonL, Sanders has said he is not a liberal, and Hortensis Dec 2019 #56
There are some Republicans I could support SCantiGOP Dec 2019 #26
Don't know how old you are wnylib Dec 2019 #48
Don't insult my intelligence stopdiggin Dec 2019 #27
re: "I think we need to realize that labels don't always fit exactly. Nor do they mean everything." thesquanderer Dec 2019 #28
No Republicans! colsohlibgal Dec 2019 #29
Fussing is right!! We all know he isn't going to choose a repub Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #31
He will consider GOPers, and likely reject them. Maybe ask for some help. OK with that. Hoyt Dec 2019 #35
He won't even consider them. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #37
Agree. But I'm OK with him saying he'll consider GOPers. Hoyt Dec 2019 #38
People are getting their panties in a wad unnecessarily The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #40
Thanks, hpd Hekate Dec 2019 #39
I'd worry that doing so could be an automatic death sentence calimary Dec 2019 #42
My prediction is that if Biden becomes the wnylib Dec 2019 #49
That's my forecast also. sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #52
I don't care how dam nicy nice you want to play. If Republicans were trying to trash my kid in vsrazdem Dec 2019 #51
But I bet you say hello and smile at Republicans all day long Hortensis Dec 2019 #60
I don't see the Republicans playing nice, real world or not. vsrazdem Dec 2019 #62
Sorry to hear it. Perhaps your neighbors are Hortensis Dec 2019 #65
Well, it clear you're the better person, or at least your feelings are clear. vsrazdem Dec 2019 #67
Sensible. Which future do you want? nt Hortensis Dec 2019 #71
+2,000,000 Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #64
K&R Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #53
Here's a graph indicating BIDEN'S IDEOLOGY while in the senate. Hortensis Dec 2019 #57
THANK YOU! betsuni Dec 2019 #58
whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabout RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #59
Kicking for the sanity. Skidmore Dec 2019 #61
Psst. Guess who got those republican votes during the 2016 primaries.... Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #63
For all the people who don't think this is an issue at all, hughee99 Dec 2019 #68
I thnk that Joe gave a great answer to this question Gothmog Dec 2019 #69
Yes, and Jeff Fecke Gets IT.. Guess who Cha Dec 2019 #75
Biden's comments were fine. David__77 Dec 2019 #76
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #77
He has never been my choice sellitman Dec 2019 #78
People are being dishonest about what Biden said TruthTeller0505 Dec 2019 #79
I don't have a problem with his statement. David__77 Dec 2019 #80
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