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LiberalLovinLug

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14. She had a plan going in. She saw an untapped demographic
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 03:20 PM
Nov 2019

I don't doubt her beliefs, and her passion about not starting unnecessary wars. I think we all share that same belief.

It is shared by independents and even many Republicans. I think she watched the last primary and saw that there was a divide growing between the progressive left and the status quo more conservative Dems. She also watched the DNC put their fingers on the scale for the establishment candidate. And she watched the fall out that came from that. And she thought she'd exploit that. I am not writing this in support of her, but just to deconstruct her plan.

Her plan was to go after a demographic that no one on either side was going after. At least not as aggressively. That is, frustrated Democrats that don't see enough progressive leadership that want someone to start criticizing the party, plus an emerging younger more progressive base, plus independents who admire her maverick nature and that she's not afraid to criticize her own party, plus veterans who share her concern about war's cost, plus Never Trumpers that are still uncomfortable with voting for a traditional Democrat. Plus a few former Sanders supporters that think she is a younger more attractive version of the "free radical" in the party.

And it's not like that is a dumb idea...if you are shooting to win the general. I think if there was a magic wand waved and fast forward and she was our candidate for 2020, she'd actually have a great chance. Maybe better than any other candidate, because she has won over not only disaffected Democrats but Independents and even Republicans, with endorsements from Bannon and Carlson. And as long as most every Democratic voter still adhered to the rule, "vote blue no matter who", Trump would be in deep doo doo. They'd have to start churning out fake scandals for her too little, too late IMO.

And IF she ran and won, she'd take with her many other Democrats because of people voting straight ticket.

BUT....a big BUT. She has to first win the primaries. Its very very difficult against not only the party establishment, but the MSM establishment as well, who don't really know what to do with her.

But IMO I think she miscalculated. There are enough "free radicals" running this time. There are candidates like Sanders and Warren. Who are much more savvy when criticizing the Democratic party. Know how to pick their spots. Maybe that is experience. Also reps like AOC are stealing her thunder as the new young up n coming progressives. AOC also is very smart at poking the establishment of the party in a much more careful frugal way. And AOC has already publicly backed Sanders. I think if both Sanders and Warren were not running, Tulsi may be doing very well, but for now, progressives have two very good candidates who are both doing well.

She seems to be a bit desperate now and getting more and more critical. There comes a point when its just too much. When the other side can use you for their own propaganda purposes. I only hope Tulsi's own hubris does not push her to overstep and use her platform to damage our chances in 2020. That she will eventually see she can't win and step back and shut up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Tulsi Gabbard attacks the DNC [View all] brooklynite Nov 2019 OP
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Welcome to DU PatSeg Nov 2019 #16
Had it previously been recognized by the DNC? NurseJackie Nov 2019 #2
Is the Boston Globe NH Poll recognized by the DNC ? ritapria Nov 2019 #3
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Now: "Tulsi Gabbard attacks the DNC"; Coming Up Next: "Fire can hurt you" LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #5
Is/Was this a recognized poll by the DNC? QualTest Nov 2019 #6
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Gabbard is polling at 1.3%, nationally (RCP Average)...nt B Stieg Nov 2019 #7
An Election Tradition Me. Nov 2019 #9
She had a plan going in. She saw an untapped demographic LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #14
If she did win the nomination, PatSeg Nov 2019 #17
I agree. She has burned too many bridges. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #20
I agree PatSeg Nov 2019 #24
Well... QualTest Nov 2019 #21
"I'm amazed at how far many have gone to negate her, but she has not helped herself either" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #22
Agree QualTest Nov 2019 #25
? TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #31
Gabbard "negates" herself. If she didn't say Cha Nov 2019 #23
I wuz robbed crazytown Nov 2019 #10
The Bernie Sanders playbook is not a successful strategy Jose Garcia Nov 2019 #11
A butt-hurt whiny DINO. How soon will she go away? RainCaster Nov 2019 #12
I'll bet she'd hit 99% on a hlthe2b Nov 2019 #13
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i can't stand her, i wouldn't vote for her trueblue2007 Nov 2019 #18
If it was Gabbard (D) v trump crazytown Nov 2019 #19
I am by no means a fan of hers dsc Nov 2019 #26
I think they announced in the beginning which polls they would accept.nt helpisontheway Nov 2019 #28
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Tulsi....go pound sand. apcalc Nov 2019 #27
It's NOT a DNC certified poll. Horizens Nov 2019 #29
She wants to justify her poor showing Churrix Dec 2019 #32
A Democrat she is NOT. IluvPitties Nov 2019 #30
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