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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 12:26 AM Jun 2019

Joe Biden: R's will have an "epiphany" after DT leaves WH, and they'll work with D's. [View all]

Last edited Tue Jun 4, 2019, 01:53 AM - Edit history (3)

Does anyone really believe that the R's are going to reform themselves once DT leaves the WH? That they would be willing to cooperate and get things done with a President Biden? Even though they decided at the outset of Obama's Presidency that their only legislative goal was to obstruct everything, so he would be a 1 term President?

No matter who we elect, won't the R's still have the same goal -- to hold him or her to one term, no matter how much their obstruction hurts the country?

Don't all the candidates need to realistic about this in order to plan for it?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/14/biden-republicans-trump-1321377

Former Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday he expects Republicans will have an "epiphany" when President Donald Trump leaves office, and will embrace working with Democratic colleagues.

"I just think there is a way, and the thing that will fundamentally change things is with Donald Trump out of the White House. Not a joke. You will see an epiphany occur among many of my Republican friends," Biden said during a campaign stop in New Hampshire. "It's already beginning in the House now ... If we can't change, we're in trouble. This nation cannot function without generating consensus. It can't do it."

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/joe-biden-republican-epiphany-trump.html

For comparison, here is what Biden said in 2012 about the same subject to MSNBC:

Biden seemed optimistic that both parties would work together if Obama is re-elected, arguing the “fever will have broken” and lawmakers could focus more on passing legislation than politics.

“There are still some solid Republican conservatives who understand what principled compromise means and are not wrapped up in ideological purity,” said Biden, insisting he knew a dozen Republican senators and up to three dozen House members that want to work with the Democrats.

After the election is over, Biden said members will say “’Hey man I no longer have an obligation to stick with the right of the party’… I really believe you’ll see movement. Real movement.”



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Pollyanna. House of Roberts Jun 2019 #1
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #24
Republicons are the enemy. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2019 #2
Exactly!! It's so obvious, I can't believe some here have to be convinced of this. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #26
They will "work" with Democrats. Cutting taxes, extending tax cuts and "fixing" Social Security by.. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #33
Ha! progressoid Jun 2019 #3
Joe is NOT naive, by any stretch... so, what's really going on here? InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #27
I like Biden but I'm stunned by this. He's locked in a worldview that's no longer plausible. Unwise JudyM Jun 2019 #38
not an epiphany but it will be more difficult for Republicans to go against an old white man JI7 Jun 2019 #4
Why? It's not like the Democrat can expect any R votes anyway. pnwmom Jun 2019 #5
because they are old white men also JI7 Jun 2019 #8
White Guy Bill Clinton was about the same age FoxNewsSucks Jun 2019 #34
Plus, not one woman has been president yet. BlueWI Jun 2019 #49
Not a epiphany Joediss Jun 2019 #28
Your heading is inaccurately presented and phrased as if Biden said those words... Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #6
Talk about splitting hairs. pnwmom Jun 2019 #7
You are misquoting him - fact. And it should be corrected. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #9
The only word I quoted is "epiphany." The rest is paraphrasing. And the link is there pnwmom Jun 2019 #10
Your heading has a colon after Joe Biden, which means that the following words are made by him... Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #11
There are only quotation marks around the word "epiphany." n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #12
Thanks for making the correction. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #13
Now you can answer the questions in the OP. How about it? pnwmom Jun 2019 #14
Joe is exceeding expectations as we speak and it is reasonable to assume that he will, likewise, Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #15
In addition Skya, there is evidence that if Trump was not there, some bipartisan legislation would still_one Jun 2019 #18
Regarding the rules of punctuation: Yes, you can use a colon to introduce a quote, Demit Jun 2019 #16
Is there a Democratic candidate who says they will not try to work with republicans in Congress? still_one Jun 2019 #17
That's not the issue. Biden EXPECTS that the R's are going to change and suddenly pnwmom Jun 2019 #19
I get it. You don't care for the stratgey of Biden's campaign. If Biden's expression of still_one Jun 2019 #40
The establishment candidate is running Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #20
This is based on something Biden said three weeks ago, and has already been discussed: George II Jun 2019 #21
It's an issue that's not going away because he presents himself as the man who can pnwmom Jun 2019 #22
The clear difference, this time around, when Joe becomes President Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #23
Unless he selects JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #47
So you think they might be a bit disingenuous? SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #39
Another negative anti-Biden screed LibFarmer Jun 2019 #25
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Jun 2019 #31
i belive some will sigh with relief that trumps gone... samnsara Jun 2019 #29
My read on the VP has always been his willingness to listen to others Peacetrain Jun 2019 #30
Maybe if they got rid of Mitch McConnell IronLionZion Jun 2019 #32
What nonsense Midnightwalk Jun 2019 #35
"The only hope for reform is if they are trounced in the election". Polls show that Biden is the Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #37
So you think we need a delusional candidate Midnightwalk Jun 2019 #41
i think that we need Joe and so does the majority of Americans... Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #43
Good campaign move by Biden. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #36
Repubs will do what they always do. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #42
Just like they worked with Obama. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2019 #44
Not only must Trumpy leave, but McConnell also must go. Without both leaving, Eyeball_Kid Jun 2019 #45
Great pivot to the GE JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #46
So Biden said the same thing in 2012. He was wrong. The GOP was worse than awful. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jun 2019 #48
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