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R B Garr

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272. Reality is your hypocrisy is on full display. Those are Bernie talking points

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:09 PM

May 2019

and inflammatory concerns and completely self-serving. They are meant to be manipulative gotchas as if the fabricated purity standards are not met, yet Bernie’s staffers who actually did work against Democrats and directly enabled a Trump victory obviously get a pass.

Bernie’s groups have also advertised that they will support Republicans if they meet certain criteria.

I’m glad to see Biden’s cancer initiative and look forward to hearing more about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Disqualifying: Biden gave paid speech supporting repuke in 2018 [View all] wellst0nev0ter May 2019 OP

If Sanders had done this, there would be such wailing and gnashing of teeth... aidbo May 2019 #1

Well, legally speaking, a sitting rep can't do this, and he's been a career politician for decades. ehrnst May 2019 #42

I don't see any issue with taking the fee. The bigger issue to me... thesquanderer May 2019 #327

That's an issue I have with Our Revolution ehrnst May 2019 #330

RE: "Anyone who supports them is complicit in that." thesquanderer May 2019 #341

I don't know of anyone that I would support 100% ehrnst May 2019 #351

Not necessarily bashing, but for example... thesquanderer May 2019 #355

I'm talking about POTUS candidates, not organizations. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #417

No, you were talking about "Our Revolution" thesquanderer May 2019 #418

I was talking about candidates, and that their support of certain orgs would be a ehrnst May 2019 #419

Nonstop. 24 hrs a day. Hassin Bin Sober May 2019 #43

You know it!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #50

Biden didn't endorse Upton. However, Sanders did endorse anti-abortionist Heath Mello still_one May 2019 #80

So, Biden taking a $200k paid speech to help elect an anti choice Republican is better.. aidbo May 2019 #110

This is the laughable false framing that is prefacing Bernie's R B Garr May 2019 #131

$200k didn't have anything to do with it? Why didn't he do it for free then? aidbo May 2019 #150

This contrived umbrage is very obvious. Bernie's groups R B Garr May 2019 #161

I take no umbrage that Biden took.. aidbo May 2019 #251

Reality is your hypocrisy is on full display. Those are Bernie talking points R B Garr May 2019 #272

Hiring people who supported non-dems is not the same... thesquanderer May 2019 #325

LOL, it's worse, since you are knowingly and intentionally R B Garr May 2019 #328

+1000. ehrnst May 2019 #332

Supporting orgs and PACs that trash Democrats is also a deal breaker in my book. ehrnst May 2019 #331

Why didn't he endorse the Democrat in this hard fought race, or even take the phone calls pnwmom May 2019 #403

What other Democrats endorsed him? Do you have proof R B Garr May 2019 #405

He gave a speech for him weeks before the election, and refused to endorse the Des pnwmom May 2019 #402

I get it pnwmom, you don't like Biden, and I suspect you won't vote for him in the primary, and still_one May 2019 #406

I get it that you don't want to acknowledge that he's anything less than the perfect candidate. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #409

Not at all, Biden's made plenty of mistakes in his career, but on most issues he has still_one May 2019 #410

Since Warren was raised in Oklahoma, I keep wondering why Biden pnwmom May 2019 #412

Elizabeth Warren most people should know her when she was an advisor during the financial crisis, still_one May 2019 #421

Yes there would wailing because it's illegal. George II May 2019 #271

Sneaky or clever? I can't decide. NurseJackie May 2019 #278

What Democrat will he bash this time around? katmondoo May 2019 #352

try sticking to the topic at hand. aidbo May 2019 #381

Please, we're not allowed to talk about what Sanders has fone Nuggets May 2019 #408

Stop, just stop. we can do it May 2019 #2

YES YES STOP!!! Am I shouting YESSSSS!! Thekaspervote May 2019 #117

Agree! OP, honorable people don't use dishonest spin Hortensis May 2019 #165

Sorry, but you are going too far here. Vidal May 2019 #3

He helped a repuke win an election wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #5

Exactly!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #55

BS hired senior campaign staff who voted for Jill Stein and encouraged others to do so as well. lapucelle May 2019 #157

Thank you. The OP is dishonest swiftboating😡 we can do it May 2019 #194

This only makes sense wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #196

It makes sense no matter who you are supporting. lapucelle May 2019 #273

What is "dishonest" about it? whathehell May 2019 #245

If BrieBrie's candidate loses again, I wouldn't be surprised to see more of the same. lapucelle May 2019 #268

whataboutBernie excuses Biden? shanny May 2019 #224

Nothing excuses what BS did. lapucelle May 2019 #256

"to you" shanny May 2019 #259

We all only speak for ourselves... lapucelle May 2019 #267

For some, the "Bernie standard" applies ONLY to Bernie, not to any other candidate, including Biden. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #258

+1 shanny May 2019 #260

Good example... there are so many other examples I could cite, as I'm sure you could too. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #266

BS hired Stein endorsers as campaign manager, press secretary, and senior campaign advisor. lapucelle May 2019 #269

This thread isn't about Bernie wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #279

please see post #325 thesquanderer May 2019 #326

Hiring people who bitterly, gleefully & very publicly endorsed a 3rd party candidates in 2016 lapucelle May 2019 #333

So, why is there a different standard for Bernie?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #54

What "different standard"? Examples please. George II May 2019 #78

What "different standard" is there for Bernie that isn't ehrnst May 2019 #234

He supported a Republican over a member of his own party. Demit May 2019 #4

What if it was Bernie who had done this... just imagine!! Oh boy, look out!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #68

Push em back! Push em back! BannonsLiver May 2019 #187

Riiiiight! Justifying different standards for Bernie... ooookay!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #257

Rah! Rah! Sis-boom-bah! BannonsLiver May 2019 #262

He might as well have - Sanders (not a Democrat at the time) supported a pro-life candidate.... George II May 2019 #288

He didn't support a republican. He simply thanked Upton for supporting a bipartisan bill.... George II May 2019 #109

In the middle of a campaign. In which he conspicuously declined to endorse the Democrat Demit May 2019 #158

The author of the Vice hit piece in the OP link recommended 3rd party voting in 2016. lapucelle May 2019 #275

You mean this satirical piece wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #277

The piece sings Stein's praises and links to a laudatory profile and to her campaign website, lapucelle May 2019 #295

Bernie openly bashes Democrats all the time including President Obama Thekaspervote May 2019 #119

This is whataboutism. Whatever Bernie does has nothing to do with what Biden did. Demit May 2019 #151

I am replying to post #68 Thekaspervote May 2019 #162

Well, you actually replied to post #4. Demit May 2019 #172

Then why are people on this thread bringing up Bernie on his behalf in whataboutisms themselves? themaguffin May 2019 #232

Don't ask me. I'm not on either of their cheerleading squads. Demit May 2019 #236

Ok. I only asked you because you called out whataboutism. themaguffin May 2019 #239

I did. It's a stupid rebuttal no matter who it's trying to defend. Demit May 2019 #242

When your son dies of brain cancer, maybe you support someone who FailureToCommunicate May 2019 #6

Biden supported someone who voted to take away MY healthcare wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #7

Okay. But I do hope you'll support in the general whomever is the nominee. FailureToCommunicate May 2019 #9

This isn't a purity test wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #16

He said something nice about him Dream Girl May 2019 #61

During a speech in a closely contested race wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #104

BS needs to have a little chat with his press secretary lapucelle May 2019 #173

Do you see my signature? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #175

No doubt about that... vote blue, no matter who!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #70

I may be wrong but it doesn't appear the OP will support the nominee BannonsLiver May 2019 #188

Well, that's why I said "hope" FailureToCommunicate May 2019 #238

He didn't endorse him for office, if that's what you're implying. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #53

Seriously... and I spose the Democratic candidate wouldn't support cancer research?! Doubt that!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #57

HE isn't hiding behind his son's memory. You are acting as though he's an agent in this hit job, emmaverybo May 2019 #303

Still kicking this old story, I see. elleng May 2019 #8

Actually, it hasn't been discussed wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #11

Has been discussed here plenty. elleng May 2019 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #23

Yes discussed over and over Thekaspervote May 2019 #122

This has even discussed at least twice Demsrule86 May 2019 #321

As I said it has been discussed...here are three...took me two minutes to find. Demsrule86 May 2019 #322

Oh they just never give up ... old story indeed Thekaspervote May 2019 #121

That never stops old Bernie stories from being repeated over and over and over again... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #287

His affection for Upton is in part because of the Republican's work to support the cancer research hlthe2b May 2019 #10

Upton voted to repeal Obamacare wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #12

Never said he didn't. But one sided discussions are dishonest. hlthe2b May 2019 #73

The way you framed it wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #107

Now that is disingenuous as hell and you know it. hlthe2b May 2019 #130

Is this not what you wrote? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #137

It is what has been REPORTED word for word... hlthe2b May 2019 #143

His praise being genuine does not make it any better wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #198

Yes, Thanks elleng May 2019 #15

Biden refused to endorse Upton's Democratic opponent, who went on to lose by less than 5%. Demit May 2019 #26

Upton, Dingell, Brooks, & Deutch Reintroduce Gun Violence Reduction Bill: the Jake Laird Act Vidal May 2019 #13

He also twice voted to repeal DC's gun laws wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #20

'Upton is a good guy.' Celerity May 2019 #97

Are you saying you won't support him if he wins the nomination? Kaleva May 2019 #17

Unlike Biden, I'm a pragmatist wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #18

So this doesn't actually disqualify him then. Kaleva May 2019 #92

Disqualifies him from my primary vote and yours n/t wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #125

None of the Dem candidates are disqualified in my opinion. Kaleva May 2019 #155

This is still primary season. It's not a time to assume anyone will be the nominee. Demit May 2019 #27

Hit the nail! at140 May 2019 #64

The reality is no candidate this primary is disqualified. Kaleva May 2019 #101

I don't support all the Dem candidates. That would be weird. Demit May 2019 #170

I didn't say I'm rooting for all to win Kaleva May 2019 #177

I support their right to vie for the nomination too. Demit May 2019 #185

Will you vote for Biden revmclaren May 2019 #19

See post above wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #21

Well, since you have such high convictions about revmclaren May 2019 #29

Are you talking about Bernie Sanders? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #30

Hmmm... TCJ70 May 2019 #33

I'll be looking forward to seeing your undecided status change to supporting revmclaren May 2019 #41

Another strategy I've noticed is "Don't make the candidate talk about actual issues, Autumn May 2019 #89

So your answer is yes then. One must keep revmclaren May 2019 #37

Blind partisan hatred is destroying this country; I hope for something better LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #22

Stupidly supporting repukes is destroying this country wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #28

You mean like hiring staff that are known for opposing Democrats? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #47

Why do you assume I support Bernie? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #56

No, I didn't assume that about you. ehrnst May 2019 #63

But they aren't frontrunners wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #205

Maybe we're not thinking of the same other POTUS candidates. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #233

Once again, he did NOT "support" Upton, he spoke about Upton's help in getting.... George II May 2019 #49

Upton tried to repeal Obamacare wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #59

And vilifying him for doing so says more about the attacker's character than Biden's, IMO LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #66

The repetitive attackers. LakeArenal May 2019 #114

Yup! Thekaspervote May 2019 #128

Thank you. shanny May 2019 #386

You're welcome wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #390

This has been posted several times in the past couple of months. People should dig into..... George II May 2019 #24

It was used in Upton's campaign advertising wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #25

Yes, he knew what he was doing. It wasn't a campaign event. George II May 2019 #34

Biden supported a repuke who voted to repeal Obamacare wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #38

So you would not vote for Biden if he is the eventual nominee? cwydro May 2019 #44

He didn't endorse the Democrat running against Upton. That's what's worth digging into. Demit May 2019 #35

In that case, dig away. George II May 2019 #52

I don't have to. The boosters for whom he can do no wrong should, though. Demit May 2019 #67

This is a intentional distortion and misrepresentation, and the OP knows it. still_one May 2019 #40

From the NYT article wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #46

I stand by what I said, and if you think this kind of distorted trash is helping Sanders, the polls still_one May 2019 #69

Why do you people assume I support Sanders? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #129

You nailed that one!! Thekaspervote May 2019 #134

Perhaps you missed this: ehrnst May 2019 #31

It's true wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #36

If Republican approval of a Democrat is disqualifying... ehrnst May 2019 #45

Republicans approved Upton's challenger? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #51

No, that wasn't what I was talking about. ehrnst May 2019 #60

Who are you referring to, specifically? Demit May 2019 #93

No, I wasn't talking about Lieberman. ehrnst May 2019 #98

Republicans use Democrats against Other Democrats wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #102

GOP dark money superpacs spend lots of money doing that. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #139

Nope. nt Tipperary May 2019 #32

So do I. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #39

Regardless of The relationship Joe has(d) with Upton, the timing of the speech was questionable Raven123 May 2019 #48

Why he would think he can work with the GOP better than Obama is a GREAT question to ask. Demit May 2019 #254

zzzzzzzzzz EveHammond13 May 2019 #58

First of all, welcome to DU wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #62

zzzzzzzzz EveHammond13 May 2019 #65

Why did you vote "Supporting another candidate anyway" but claim you are Undecided? RelativelyJones May 2019 #71

Good catch, and good question LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #72

Like I said, undecided, multiple "nopes" wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #94

So the speech wasn't really the deal breaker then, lapucelle May 2019 #296

Do you think that somehow "undecided" is the same as shanny May 2019 #388

!!!!!! LakeArenal May 2019 #81

Biden was never my first choice wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #82

Your choice. RelativelyJones May 2019 #91

You have two dozen other choices in the Primary, so big deal Hekate May 2019 #195

No, I'm not stupid wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #206

LOL. busted. EveHammond13 May 2019 #160

The OP is a Sanders supporter BannonsLiver May 2019 #192

How am I a sander's supporter wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #203

I wondered and asked. The OP said Sanders is not in their top 3...unless they are being disingenuous RelativelyJones May 2019 #235

That appears to be the case. BannonsLiver May 2019 #240

Indeed it does. RelativelyJones May 2019 #241

Show proof or stand down wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #248

Stand down? BannonsLiver May 2019 #261

Another useless rant from a supporter of someone in disguise NYMinute May 2019 #74

Still undecided, pal wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #84

Enquiring minds want to know. RelativelyJones May 2019 #95

Biden's certainly at the top of the "nope" list wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #99

Ok, who's on your list of preferred candidates? Have you made an argument why they are the best RelativelyJones May 2019 #112

Warren, Booker, Harris wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #120

Fair enough, all great candidates. Then why not make an argument for them instead of this strangely RelativelyJones May 2019 #132

I'm not fully in support of either of the candidates wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #249

It certainly has effect on us "undecideds." earthshine May 2019 #179

By a 2:1 margin, based on the poll in the OP NYMinute May 2019 #230

It's obvious that you didn't understand my post. Too busy typing to read, eh? earthshine May 2019 #237

I guess we need to look elsewhere for an absolutely perfect candidate flyingfysh May 2019 #75

And he'd certainly be under attack as someone polling in the lead... ehrnst May 2019 #79

Jesus is perfect because he's fictional. LakeArenal May 2019 #83

Perhaps you mean his deification is fictional? elias7 May 2019 #178

Yes. No such thing as divinity. LakeArenal May 2019 #181

Pretty heavy. Now we're needing definitions. elias7 May 2019 #310

It's a serious debate; I hold with the the "legendary" position, in that there was likely one LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #191

There are better candidates than Biden out there wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #86

That maybe, but are they electable? The polls so far say no Thekaspervote May 2019 #138

Shocking investigative info.... LakeArenal May 2019 #76

Unlike Upton wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #87

Only because he had brain cancer. LakeArenal May 2019 #96

So McCain would have voted against Obamacare wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #100

Get over the hyperbole. LakeArenal May 2019 #103

There's nothing wrong with being friends with members of the other party. Demit May 2019 #106

OMG again. I have actually supported the Republicans locally. LakeArenal May 2019 #118

Hopefully their policies align with you views wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #123

Some don't. That's how it's supposed to work LakeArenal May 2019 #133

Both Lieberman and John Edwards wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #142

18 points. Double digits. Since he announced. LakeArenal May 2019 #159

So you'd support Lieberman and Edwards if they're frontrunners? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #164

That's really dumb. LakeArenal May 2019 #174

Let me know when you're the former VP of the party contemplating a run for president Demit May 2019 #176

Part of Joe Biden's success is his ability to reach across the aisle democratisphere May 2019 #77

How many repukes voted for Obamacare? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #90

Another "Biden not pure" thread LibFarmer May 2019 #85

God forbid Democrats exercise some standards wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #88

The standard that Biden exercised here is that of a decent human being. That you have such a LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #105

Then why didn't he campaign with Upton's Democratic opponent? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #108

I don't know, but that doesn't change my statement LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #111

Do Decent Human Beings vote to repeal the ACA? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #124

Biden didn't do that, so your question is dishonest. That the person he was decent to LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #126

It does reflect on his decisionmaking wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #146

Only in a positive way, unlike your own position, IMO. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #152

Decent humans support cancer research. Glad to see the R B Garr May 2019 #144

Do decent people vote to repeal the ACA? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #148

Your whole premise is contrived. Biden was appreciative R B Garr May 2019 #153

Agreed with what you have posted but trying to present facts MarcA May 2019 #135

Yes, I know it can be a fruitless effort for some corners wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #140

Yes, it is craziness if you are backing someone that is not electable Thekaspervote May 2019 #141

standards. like booing Hillary at our Convention on national tv. #Standards EveHammond13 May 2019 #163

I question the standards a post like this shows. To me, a lack of them. emmaverybo May 2019 #304

And they're not winning many converts either. BannonsLiver May 2019 #263

LOL! Bernie's group Justice Democrats, et al, openly support Republicans R B Garr May 2019 #113

Who says I support Bernie? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #115

lol R B Garr May 2019 #116

It's easier to dismiss you if they label you a Sanders supporter. N/t TCJ70 May 2019 #171

No, it's just that such bilious attacks are ususally associated with a particular campaign; so LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #182

Thank you wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #219

Nah, but it is easier to see the true motivation. BannonsLiver May 2019 #200

Interesting that there's a call out for giving a paid speech... brooklynite May 2019 #127

And a speech about cancer. Cancer. R B Garr May 2019 #136

A speech for a Republican in a tight race wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #154

Nope: a speech to a business group. That the candidate was there was incidental. brooklynite May 2019 #167

The speech wasn't "for a Republican". This laughable false framing R B Garr May 2019 #168

I don't give two hoots about Bernie wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #193

Biden gave a speech appreciative of cancer funding. It wasn't R B Garr May 2019 #270

No matter what you say, the Repukes think differently wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #276

You keep misrepresenting. The article you linked to is not NYT. It's Vice, R B Garr May 2019 #300

The repuke congressman campaigned on Biden's speech wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #301

Biden gave a speech about cancer research. Here are the Sanders staffers who voted third party: R B Garr May 2019 #305

When Biden's additional tax returns are released soon we'll see what he did with the $150,000.... George II May 2019 #302

#fakenews ! stonecutter357 May 2019 #145

Exactly! Very fack. R B Garr May 2019 #149

Can't imagine caring Loki Liesmith May 2019 #147

Water under the bridge. Joe's not perfect, but neither am I. Laelth May 2019 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #166

That is just ludicrous.. Biden heads up the Cancer Initiative.. Peacetrain May 2019 #169

Oh goodie the new disqualifying meme is here. BannonsLiver May 2019 #180

"Joe wears sunglasses! Why is he opposed to solar energy?!?" LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #183

Disqualified!1!1!!!! BannonsLiver May 2019 #184

It's disqualifying to praise someone for sponsoring a key cancer research bill???? andym May 2019 #186

It's disqualifying to praise someone wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #189

IMHO, praising someone who accomplished some good, for the good that they did andym May 2019 #222

He didn't say anything about Upton's efforts to repeal ACA wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #225

My point goes beyond the implications for that particular election and is far more general andym May 2019 #297

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #190

Hear, hear! BannonsLiver May 2019 #197

Support Democrats, Don't Undermine Them wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #199

"Support Democrats, Don't Undermine Them" Downtown Hound May 2019 #201

Yeah, from the crowd who says "Vote Blue, No Matter Who" wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #202

for THIS we are gonna re elect trump? seriously? samnsara May 2019 #204

There are better fighters than Biden n/t wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #207

im not convinced samnsara May 2019 #252

Some hope for that if they can't have purity. BannonsLiver May 2019 #208

This goes beyond purity wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #211

Righhhhht BannonsLiver May 2019 #214

I swear, only Democrats do this to themselves wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #215

Thank God you're here to show us the way. BannonsLiver May 2019 #217

First Rule: Always Support Democrats wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #218

Glad to see you coming around. BannonsLiver May 2019 #220

Second Rule: Shun Those That Break First Rule wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #223

Right on! BannonsLiver May 2019 #226

Ummhmmm sheshe2 May 2019 #298

And so is Matt Longjohn, the Dem challenger wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #299

Did I miss the primary? Aren't we still choosing a general candidate? n/t TCJ70 May 2019 #210

Haven't you heard? Joe's the presumptive candidate wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #212

Couldn't care less. BlueTsunami2018 May 2019 #209

Wish Joe could've followed your advice wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #213

Still supporting him. bearsfootball516 May 2019 #216

Who cares. Polly Hennessey May 2019 #221

This stupid poll is Bernie supporters trying to discredit Joe calguy May 2019 #227

Point to where I'm a Bernie supporter wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #228

I just finished replying to a Bernie post shouting "disqualifying" and found that good sense emmaverybo May 2019 #229

But that would prevent virtue signaling and purity displays. BannonsLiver May 2019 #231

I am suspicious. Two DISQUALIFYING posts this morning, one upon the other, against Bernie emmaverybo May 2019 #246

The others were responses to this terrible OP. BannonsLiver May 2019 #247

You've got the order reversed...This one was posted, then a different poster... TCJ70 May 2019 #253

So this was a backatcha. It probably should be removed as well. All DISQUALIFIED postings emmaverybo May 2019 #264

No. This one (about Biden) was first. N/t TCJ70 May 2019 #265

I was corrected on that by two other members who said Bernie post was first. So I am still emmaverybo May 2019 #285

Mine was first wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #291

Solves that. nt emmaverybo May 2019 #292

Well...I only posted in one of the Bernie threads. TCJ70 May 2019 #306

Not a disqualifier in my book PBC_Democrat May 2019 #243

What has Biden gotten away with? mcar May 2019 #244

He was for forced birth before he was against it, for one wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #250

This is weak sauce. beaglelover May 2019 #255

Harry Cheadle, the author of the Vice hit-piece in the OP link, recommended 3rd party voting in 2016 lapucelle May 2019 #274

The piece is clearly satirical wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #280

No it isn't. lapucelle May 2019 #281

Any reasonable person who reads the quote you cited wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #283

Oh that Harry! lapucelle May 2019 #293

This further proves you're not interested in a good faith discussion wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #294

Alternately, perhaps the Harry Cheadle Vice hit piece you linked to is "satitical". lapucelle May 2019 #282

This is cringeworthy wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #284

Maybe you can add a voting option that reads: lapucelle May 2019 #289

He doesn't mock Stein. lapucelle May 2019 #286

... wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #290

You were done when you created the push poll still_one May 2019 #307

Brilliant, lapucelle! I was just looking up Harry and also saw he has a definite bias R B Garr May 2019 #309

And the gaslighting didn't work. lapucelle May 2019 #311

The OP is an epic fail. BannonsLiver May 2019 #312

And that one vote was from someone who was supporting Harris (not Biden) on May 10. lapucelle May 2019 #313

Yes, the gaslighting and shaming didn't work. R B Garr May 2019 #314

Attacking the candidate who has the biggest backing wasupaloopa May 2019 #308

"paid speech supporting rebuke" betsuni May 2019 #315

It doesn't help for me especially with the rest of his record JonLP24 May 2019 #316

You support a man who refused to get a job when his son was on Welfare LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #317

This is new information but I looked into it I don't have any issues with it JonLP24 May 2019 #318

Here: LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #319

He noticed with that 4% he did well in Burlington so ran for Mayor of Burlington JonLP24 May 2019 #320

It definitely looks bad loyalsister May 2019 #323

you change my mind about Biden ...... stonecutter357 May 2019 #324

Talk about bashing Democratic figures...complete with a poll !!! With friends like this.....nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #335

"With Friends Like These" wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #336

So fucking what with this OLD NEWS. Not interested and neither are the people who don't follow UniteFightBack May 2019 #338

We'll see how irrelevant it is wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #343

Oh yeah I'm sure we'll have plenty of time on the debate stage for everybody to say their piece.... UniteFightBack May 2019 #345

Someone will have to say it, if they want to be the candidate wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #347

If Biden wins the primary, saidsimplesimon May 2019 #329

I personally want a fighter for the Democratic candidate wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #337

I'm so sick of people and their bullshit dealbreakers when the country is burning down around them. UniteFightBack May 2019 #334

Didn't say I'll vote against him in the general wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #339

Yeah sharp elbows worked out great in 2016 huh? This is DIFFERENT....don't you get that? nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #342

This year will be worse. Look at the field. wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #346

Biden: "You will not hear me speak ill of another Democrat." OP are you listening? Doodley May 2019 #340

Me neither...I have not trashed other Dems in this forum...there is no reason for it...even UniteFightBack May 2019 #344

Not sure why you bring up Sanders wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #349

I repeat: wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #348

You give reasons to support Biden, because he"s happy to say when a lawmaker supports something good Doodley May 2019 #392

And that same lawmaker uses that praise wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #399

Fine. If you prefer to divide, carry on. Biden is a unity candidate as was Obama. You are welcome to Doodley May 2019 #400

Yes, I won't undermine a Democrat in favor of a repuke wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #401

You already have done. By saying Biden should be disqualified, you give succor to Trump supporters. Doodley May 2019 #411

So don't criticize Democrats wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #413

The OP loathes Biden BannonsLiver May 2019 #350

Final warning. wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #353

A good faith discussion? BannonsLiver May 2019 #354

Agreed LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #356

You Have Yet To Disprove The Contents wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #357

So not interested in a "good faith" discussion then. BannonsLiver May 2019 #358

Totally opposite of what I said wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #359

What am I supposed to "disprove"? BannonsLiver May 2019 #360

Biden gave a speech wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #361

Okay BannonsLiver May 2019 #362

Why don't you give a fuck? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #363

Well BannonsLiver May 2019 #364

Funny wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #367

Yes, it is. BannonsLiver May 2019 #368

Think you mean this: wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #369

Why bring Killer Mike into this? BannonsLiver May 2019 #370

Try again wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #371

Try what again? BannonsLiver May 2019 #373

Try editing your post again wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #376

I see no need for that. The choice was appropriate. BannonsLiver May 2019 #379

Probably because he, like me, is not offended by people behaving as decent human beings LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #365

Voting to repeal ACA is not decent wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #366

Which he did not do. He made a speech to a business group, and praised the cancer support work of LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #372

You clearly misread what I said wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #374

And that you find evil in Biden saying nice things about someone, anyone, is reprehensible LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #375

It's really sad actually. BannonsLiver May 2019 #377

I feel like I need a shower just for replying LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #383

Really ugly nasty stuff meant to divide BannonsLiver May 2019 #384

All they have is their hate LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #385

Then don't wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #391

Biden gave a repuke campaign material wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #378

Like Biden, I refuse to lower myself to the level of the other side. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #380

Playing smart is not "lowering yourself" wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #382

Is it by the individual response, or letter , or complete sentence? Peacetrain May 2019 #387

I just wanted to get a pulse from the Biden backers wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #389

Now that your question has been answered, perhaps you can answer mine. lapucelle May 2019 #393

I doubt people are worried about something that didn't happen, R B Garr May 2019 #396

His speech was written in repuke literature wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #398

More things that didn't happen. Now you're fabricating about R B Garr May 2019 #407

Try re-reading my post again wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #414

You should take your own advice and not embellish content, R B Garr May 2019 #416

You don't have to reply, you know wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #420

Biden wasn't there for his campaign so he didn't give R B Garr May 2019 #394

What a desperate fabrication. Biden didn't give him "campaign material" R B Garr May 2019 #395

I agree wiht you. should have been self delete just as you said. (my ipinion) trueblue2007 May 2019 #397

This is disturbing. I know he's friends w/Repubs, but this was going too far. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #404

Huh. welivetotreadonkings May 2019 #415

Sorry that happened to you wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #422

FYI: George II May 2019 #423

I doubt the OP would have any problem with that. BannonsLiver May 2019 #424

Can you read the signature? wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #425

What signature? BannonsLiver May 2019 #426

It's like talking to a wall. wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #427

What is? BannonsLiver May 2019 #428

Holy moly melman Jan 2020 #429