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ismnotwasm

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17. A young women in nursing school was showing me the Dove "you're more beautiful than you think"
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:04 AM
Apr 2013

Commercial. (I bring up feminism as often as possible to my co-workers)

I told her that one irritates me, buts "lets watch it and Ill tell you why"

So we watched it. I acknowledged the discrepancies of actual appearance vs. real appearance. Then I asked her "why be beautiful at all"? I used some comments from this group to try to explain, that while aesthetics aren't wrong, what adds up to Beauty to women is compliance what men find --supposedly---sexually desirable.

Instead of women not wearing make up, I want to see men wearing it. I want to see less macho or men in black crap and more Edwardian type fashion for men. Instead of denying beauty, I want to broaden the perimeters and descriptions of what's beautiful, not just what's fuckable.

I didn't downplay the pressure to be attractive. She is attractive in the first place and doesn't feel the pain of others not so blessed. But she does feel the pressure of it. But she said she hated the dumb blonde characteristic, and was far more insecure than I realized once we got talking.

Excellent article!

step one one: quit using makeup nt msongs Apr 2013 #1
Teaching individual women how to stop self-objectifying is great. It's necessary. redqueen Apr 2013 #3
That's an interesting observation.... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #4
Yes, women internalize these rules. redqueen Apr 2013 #5
Sadly, too true. Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #7
Also I just have to add that you reminded me of this particular part of a video... redqueen Apr 2013 #6
I wish they would stop wearing ridiculous shoes Skittles Apr 2013 #9
The shoes thing totally stumps me MadrasT Apr 2013 #11
sorry, I don't laugh: it makes me CRINGE Skittles Apr 2013 #13
You're really quite worked up about shoes aren't you? redqueen Apr 2013 #14
YES Skittles Apr 2013 #16
Step Two: Stop comparing yourself to anyone else. Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #2
Some disturbing articles there. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #8
As she said, we hardly address it... hell, most hardly notice it. redqueen Apr 2013 #10
Awesome MadrasT Apr 2013 #12
Soraya Chemaly is fantastic. redqueen Apr 2013 #15
A young women in nursing school was showing me the Dove "you're more beautiful than you think" ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #17
attractive girls and women had better get a handle on it. in ways i think it is harder being seabeyond Apr 2013 #18
I could write a book on the difference between being slender & fat. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #21
Yes, many men look good in eyeliner. redqueen Apr 2013 #19
I've always wondered why men accept the restrictions of what's considered 'professional' wear. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #20
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