2016 Postmortem

Laser102

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31. Gay marriage and single parenting.

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 12:43 PM

Nov 2015

You said two right? In life you have an opportunity to meet different people from different cultures and countries. Listening to their opinions and understanding their beliefs and points of view has helped me evolve. Perhaps if you venture out a bit more.....

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Interesting Double Standard Here [View all] berni_mccoy Nov 2015 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #1

They have no answer. They know if they try to explain they will betray their own bigotry. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #2

I find it odd that "wishy washy" is the term being applied here. Bubzer Nov 2015 #47

It's projection. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #94

"Staunch supporter of LGBT" rights and supporter of same-sex marriage are two different things, Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #3

You are missing the main point: Sanders has NEVER opposed Same-Sex Marriage. And ONLY supported it. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #4

Yes, I understand and appreciate Sanders consistency and vision on that, but I do not take Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #6

political expedience, DianeK Nov 2015 #8

Like I said, I do not take offence to evolution on major issues, but that is an individual choice. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #9

I just have my doubts DianeK Nov 2015 #10

in other words, you like those behind the curve on so much stupidicus Nov 2015 #12

I find, as I've aged, my opinions have changed on numerous topics. Laser102 Nov 2015 #15

List two major issues that you've evolved on late in life. frylock Nov 2015 #17

+1 Totally agree. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #26

Gay marriage and single parenting. Laser102 Nov 2015 #31

Why would you have been against gay marriage or single parents to begin with? frylock Nov 2015 #43

I didn't know much about gay people. Until a show called Are You Being Served. Laser102 Nov 2015 #50

Good answer LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #55

Thank you for your honesty, it's refreshing. Agschmid Nov 2015 #84

I'll play awoke_in_2003 Nov 2015 #61

How old were you when you came around accepting to marriage equality? frylock Nov 2015 #62

About 40 awoke_in_2003 Nov 2015 #77

I'll keep that in my when deciding whether to vote for you in the Presidential election. frylock Nov 2015 #79

If people aren't capable awoke_in_2003 Nov 2015 #83

Thank you for your honesty here. Agschmid Nov 2015 #85

I was a dumb punk awoke_in_2003 Nov 2015 #86

I think your user name makes sense now. Agschmid Nov 2015 #87

It was the build up to the Iraq war... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2015 #88

That's how I got here too. Agschmid Nov 2015 #89

I did 3 terms as a mod awoke_in_2003 Nov 2015 #92

And if you wanted to LEAD, people would be justified in noting how often you'd 'evolved' on issues Marr Nov 2015 #21

So we agree evolving is a winner? Laser102 Nov 2015 #35

Changing ones position is not, in and of itself, a good thing. Marr Nov 2015 #51

Precisely Kentonio Nov 2015 #63

Evolving shows weakness AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #90

I was very aware of liking boys and being liked by boys in the third grade. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #104

Hillary gets it right..... eventually. frylock Nov 2015 #16

She would be rudderless in the whitehouse AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #91

Maybe one doesn't "take offense" for evolutions on major issues but faced with a choice rhett o rick Nov 2015 #96

'Folks who came to the same position later on in life'-- specially, after the fight was over Marr Nov 2015 #20

That is not an argument, that is semantics. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #25

I can only assume you read that somewhere and thought it sounded cool. Marr Nov 2015 #30

I thought it up myself - how insulting! - and it does sound kind of cool. So, dibs! Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #32

Again, HRC was counted among the opposition to gay marriage when her support was actually needed. Marr Nov 2015 #39

Actually, not that far back, he did say he supported civil unions, passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #105

Yes they are two different things, freedom and equality. You seriously think it is OK A Simple Game Nov 2015 #60

So you agree with the OP and merely trying to help them with "context"? nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #95

Her 'fans' are Faux pas Nov 2015 #5

Truer words. I have a Facebook friend (real life friend of a LibDemAlways Nov 2015 #14

It's crazy! Faux pas Nov 2015 #22

Egg-zakly AlbertCat Nov 2015 #58

Bernie is 'real' and true to his core beliefs. Faux pas Nov 2015 #113

"His entire argument is "Hillary is going to win" so everyone should support her." arcane1 Nov 2015 #57

Her fans are not lefties. n/t cui bono Nov 2015 #76

I think the double standard goes the other way around Sheepshank Nov 2015 #7

When did being responsive to evolving public opinion become a bad thing? Did I miss the memo? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #11

We are electing a leader zalinda Nov 2015 #18

I think arguing over which came first, the chicken or the egg, is unproductive. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #27

Well, unproductive when it comes to seeing how Hillary changes stances to fit what she thinks will djean111 Nov 2015 #41

Thank you. zalinda Nov 2015 #44

Our elected officials lead, by following the will of the people Sheepshank Nov 2015 #40

So, you are okay with the will of the people zalinda Nov 2015 #80

Why did Bernie oppose marriage equality in VT as late as 2006? BainsBane Nov 2015 #102

Interesting analysis mdbl Nov 2015 #106

It shows a lack of core convictions AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #93

That is complete bullshit. Sanders has never opposed same-sex marriage. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #13

perfectly stated! Amimnoch Nov 2015 #28

"But we all know who will keep the partisan blinders upon their eyes." BeanMusical Nov 2015 #36

good post, thanks oldandhappy Nov 2015 #19

Because this is a campaign of false meme's and inuendo over facts. The DLC way. eom NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #23

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #24

Fortunately, public opinion and the Supreme Court have MineralMan Nov 2015 #29

It's not moot if she would have conservative stances on other issues berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #38

Both remain unresolved, actually. MineralMan Nov 2015 #49

Like racism is now 'over'? polly7 Nov 2015 #42

I clearly said that there are other issues of equality MineralMan Nov 2015 #45

You clearly said the issue was now moot. That is what I was replying to. polly7 Nov 2015 #46

Neither- ruffburr Nov 2015 #33

She changed her toon but still believe this: BeanMusical Nov 2015 #34

That must be the biased Politifact article from 09/22/15. SoapBox Nov 2015 #37

More Of This Coming Yallow Nov 2015 #48

DUers defending DOMA Prism Nov 2015 #52

if human sacrifices polled 51%, Hillary would be in favor tomorrow Doctor_J Nov 2015 #74

Jury Results oneshooter Nov 2015 #110

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #53

IMO many of the die hard hillary supporers are still pissed that she lost to obama bowens43 Nov 2015 #54

And many others hated her guts then, but love her now. arcane1 Nov 2015 #59

The Hillary supporter "sting" is here INdemo Nov 2015 #56

Hillary is no visionary that's for sure. azmom Nov 2015 #64

Sanders’ evolving and ‘wishy-washy’ stance on same-sex marriage Fla Dem Nov 2015 #65

We get it. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #66

My point, what does it matter. Fla Dem Nov 2015 #68

Nice Try, but fail. berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #70

Good for him. Good for her. They're both where we want them to be now. nt Fla Dem Nov 2015 #71

Sanders has always been there. Clinton, well... berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #73

Just like Sanders has never opposed civil rights for POC... cascadiance Nov 2015 #107

HOW can ANYONE trust her?? Mind-boggling, really... AzDar Nov 2015 #67

And don't get me started on that Elizabeth Warren character! Sheesh! randome Nov 2015 #69

political Heathers doing what they were born to do bbgrunt Nov 2015 #72

Dear Berni and Berniacs...They're just trying to keep Bernie's vote suppressed. hedda_foil Nov 2015 #75

Exactly jfern Nov 2015 #78

So many Dems have been alienated by this type Zorra Nov 2015 #81

When Clinton is now even in polling with Ben Carson, you know we're in trouble... cascadiance Nov 2015 #108

Some of us say they both need improvement. Agschmid Nov 2015 #82

K & R L0oniX Nov 2015 #97

Hillary will say whatever is most convenient at the time for her own benefit. Back then it was cool whereisjustice Nov 2015 #98

It's not a double standard. You need two standards for a double standard Scootaloo Nov 2015 #99

He is on the record opposing marriage equality in Vermont in 2006 BainsBane Nov 2015 #100

That article infers support for civil unions berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #103

Hillary's campaign will use the kitchen sink to get the LGBT vote Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #101

The correct way to evaluate policies in the past BootinUp Nov 2015 #109

so continue on the same path, forever Doctor_J Nov 2015 #112

K/R UglyGreed Nov 2015 #111

Post about supporters alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #114