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Cha

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23. SANDERS: As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting

Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:05 PM

Oct 2015

in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing."

Why does Bernie stop shouting then?.. if it's so ineffective.

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The Bernie double standard, where he gets to shout but the rest of you should lower your damn voices [View all] Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 OP

Glad to see this. bravenak Oct 2015 #1

It's playing a gender card RobertEarl Oct 2015 #5

More "gun grabber" bullshit. Please, proceed. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #9

I'm trying to discuss this with bravenak RobertEarl Oct 2015 #10

Welcome to the internet. It's the new wild west. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #11

Nobody can take our guns here. They might get moose stomped on the way. bravenak Oct 2015 #19

Am tired of seeing arguments via card playing RobertEarl Oct 2015 #22

When I see white liberals use republican insults I will post examples of Rush saying 'race card'. bravenak Oct 2015 #31

You have a complaint with moi? RobertEarl Oct 2015 #36

Did I say that? bravenak Oct 2015 #38

And that's why Hillary has followed his lead on almost every major issue. frylock Oct 2015 #61

Here you go bravenak Oct 2015 #63

What issues specifically is he following her on? frylock Oct 2015 #66

Drones. Snowden. Etc. bravenak Oct 2015 #67

Nonsense.. frylock Oct 2015 #72

Did he say he would not use drones? bravenak Oct 2015 #77

I asked for a link showing that he was against using drones.. frylock Oct 2015 #82

When did I say he was against them? She was the hawk!! Right? bravenak Oct 2015 #83

You claimed that Sanders was following Clinton's lead.. frylock Oct 2015 #90

I thought he was the great anti war guy? bravenak Oct 2015 #93

Ah, another red herring. frylock Oct 2015 #94

You are right. I have decided because of you that they are both HAWKS!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #96

Why not just admit that you were mistaken and move on? frylock Oct 2015 #99

Did you miss 'You are right!" bravenak Oct 2015 #100

I guess it was overshadowed by all the other bullshit in that post.. frylock Oct 2015 #102

Both wrong different reasons same effect. bravenak Oct 2015 #104

yeah, that's what I was sayin' Cha Oct 2015 #14

Good news everyday. It's like the Twelve Days Of Christmas! A gift a day!! bravenak Oct 2015 #20

I like it! Cha Oct 2015 #21

He told someone to lower their voice? arcane1 Oct 2015 #2

Nope, you posted exactly what he said, but it doesn't fit with Team Hillary's smear of Bernie peacebird Oct 2015 #3

You mean it's made-up bullshit? On DU?? From the Clinton Camp??? arcane1 Oct 2015 #6

This is getting as bad as the e-mail and Benghazi stuff...but they can't see that passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #56

How did that Benghazi stuff go for you? Skidmore Oct 2015 #76

A llttle clarity here? What are you asking? passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #81

Thank you. It's rare to see such an admission. Skidmore Oct 2015 #84

You are welcome passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #88

I thought it was funny bravenak Oct 2015 #85

As this cold/virus/crud is taking over, my Skidmore Oct 2015 #86

Goodnight. I'm already in bed with my cold. Body aches..take care. Theraflu helps. bravenak Oct 2015 #87

Sleep tight. Skidmore Oct 2015 #89

Ahh! Me too! bravenak Oct 2015 #91

LOL! pocoloco Oct 2015 #75

Soon enough, the narrative will change so that Bernie knocked his podium over.. frylock Oct 2015 #64

More bullshit spin for the anointed one. elehhhhna Oct 2015 #4

Bernie was not talking about Hillary shouting which she does a lot when bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #7

Why did she think he was talking abut her? 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #8

Maybe because he didn't Politicalboi Oct 2015 #12

Here's the transcript: Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #16

SANDERS: As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting Cha Oct 2015 #23

My mistake Politicalboi Oct 2015 #43

You must have watched the edited debate that all the Bernie folks were upset about 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #17

It's still not sexist Politicalboi Oct 2015 #45

You may have a point 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #49

Well if we are going to be all pedantic about what was actually said. msrizzo Oct 2015 #53

All THE shouting, not all HER shouting. frylock Oct 2015 #73

SHE'S the one who wants sympathy? 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #18

Ayup. boston bean Oct 2015 #40

No, he should just ignore her Politicalboi Oct 2015 #47

Because somebody on her campaign team advised her to play up that angle several days after the fact. frylock Oct 2015 #70

I think she handled him just fine n the debate 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #78

When he demanded that she stop shouting? frylock Oct 2015 #92

Hillary didn't "use" anything. leftofcool Oct 2015 #28

It was not "tweaking" It was lying, because........... Armstead Oct 2015 #34

Yup! Politicalboi Oct 2015 #46

Uh, no, it wasn't leftofcool Oct 2015 #51

Yeah, right nothing to do with political con games Armstead Oct 2015 #52

You're smarter than that Armstead Oct 2015 #58

Please provide a link to show that Hillary said Bernie is sexist! leftofcool Oct 2015 #62

I guess you're not smarter than that Armstead Oct 2015 #65

Then perhaps poor bernie should stop telling women not to shout! leftofcool Oct 2015 #69

Especially when he doesn't. frylock Oct 2015 #74

He didn't tell women not to shout... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #110

the line "sometimes when a woman talks it sounds like shouting" sounds good. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2015 #37

note: Hillary's an angry New Yorker, too. grasswire Oct 2015 #59

No I don't. I'm married to a New York Jew. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2015 #106

Hillary is not dumb. Vattel Oct 2015 #13

Bernie Is Being Set Up So That In The Next Debate Or Whenever He Talks To Crowds.... global1 Oct 2015 #35

"Okay, so Sanders doesn’t have a sexist double standard, just a Bernie-specific double standard, Cha Oct 2015 #15

OK for me but not for thee mcar Oct 2015 #24

Right. Shouldn't be shouting from the proverbial glass house. Cha Oct 2015 #32

The media take on this is nauseating. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2015 #25

Whenever I hear Bernie give a speech, I find myself wondering how many town halls winter is coming Oct 2015 #27

You can take the man out of Brooklyn, SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2015 #42

Sure portlander23 Oct 2015 #26

if this is really the best that you have... DianeK Oct 2015 #29

No kidding bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #118

Hillary can't campaign in a straightforward way... Armstead Oct 2015 #30

as a lifelong radical feminist, I agree--this is beyond disgusting n/t zazen Oct 2015 #101

hillary has to make a decision here restorefreedom Oct 2015 #33

one of those options? no way. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2015 #41

bernie was not riling up gun nut supporters restorefreedom Oct 2015 #44

+++ nt grasswire Oct 2015 #60

I'm for gun control actively in real life, here I never talk about it because all sides just shout. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #39

Oh my. Was everybody in the world shouting? As in "All the shouting in the world" ? Autumn Oct 2015 #48

More bottom feeding AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #50

I don't think the sexism is with Sanders but with the perception that women should not be funny... luvspeas Oct 2015 #54

I thought her laugh at the question in the Benhazi hearing was funny, too, but . . . markpkessinger Oct 2015 #98

Bernie is sick and tired of hearing all the shouting about gun control. DCBob Oct 2015 #55

What surprises me ejbr Oct 2015 #57

Disingenuousness permeates the Clinton campaign.[n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #68

I'm thrilled that Bernie's doing so well that MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #71

rec'd bigtree Oct 2015 #79

Keep punching Bernie and followers... workinclasszero Oct 2015 #80

Dont wish to offend, but I'm a Clinton supporter who's yet to feel the "Bern." c588415 Oct 2015 #95

Question Geronimoe Oct 2015 #97

Complicated answer ... CaptainTruth Oct 2015 #114

Ugh, Clinton is the worst. fbc Oct 2015 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #105

This part: betsuni Oct 2015 #107

Good thread. Koinos Oct 2015 #108

I've been biting my tongue (fingers?) for a while now ... CaptainTruth Oct 2015 #109

"Let everyone make their own case, based on facts, data, reality, etc." betsuni Oct 2015 #113

Thank you. CaptainTruth Oct 2015 #115

Jesus, the perpetually micro-aggrieved Amanda Marcotte... again. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #111

Don't take him literally. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #112

It's good those of us on the real left never get "shouted" at and Rahm was just a figment mmonk Oct 2015 #116

LOL Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #117