2016 Postmortem

Catherina

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19. Sorry Jaysunb but you can't speak for all of us

Sun Sep 13, 2015, 11:34 PM

Sep 2015

West has a ton of respect from many of us. He also has serious street creds.

It's an issues thing. The Black community is no more monolithic than the White community. We've got Leftists, Communists, Socialists, Liberals, Centrists, Neoliberals and Conservatives too. We've got lovers and haters of Brother West just like the White community has lovers and haters of Glenn Greenwald.

I think people care more about issues like not being able to afford the rent or put their kids through school than Brother West's criticism of hope and change that didn't materialize.

He gets a fine reception out on the streets, the real streets where he's getting arrested for social justice issues like BLM, not the cushy corporate street full of false prophets telling the poor to grin, bear it, nae-nae and suffer in silence until the next world.

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Why Cornell West? [View all] brush Sep 2015 OP

What is this? The 20th Cornell West post this weekend? Armstead Sep 2015 #1

No kidding. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #7

It's been a bad few weeks for Hillary n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #31

The reason Bernie is so popular is because he says what careful politicians won't say. liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #2

Did the Sanders campaign solicit West House of Roberts Sep 2015 #11

I don't know. liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #30

Bingo ! jaysunb Sep 2015 #3

Is THAT what you think? MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #6

It speaks for itself. jaysunb Sep 2015 #8

No... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #10

Sorry.... jaysunb Sep 2015 #13

Well, I guess you said it best, jay... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #15

You're comical jaysunb Sep 2015 #17

Please don't make this about who I "typify", jay… You should know better... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #20

Perfect example ... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #33

So you want to dictate to Dr West what to say or think? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #35

Great ! call him out. And Dr. West is free to do so as well. n/t jaysunb Sep 2015 #37

What black community supports Cornel West? kwassa Sep 2015 #18

See post #9 MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #21

Sorry Jaysunb but you can't speak for all of us Catherina Sep 2015 #19

Ok, if you say so....n/t jaysunb Sep 2015 #23

But why choose someone who is not liked by a large segment of the AA community? brush Sep 2015 #41

Your concern for the wellbeing of Sanders' campaign is touching. Catherina Sep 2015 #49

Way to turn off a possible Sanders voter with snide remarks about "concern" brush Sep 2015 #54

Lol. Ok. Go ahead keep 'splaining my own community to me Catherina Sep 2015 #61

It's my community too brush Sep 2015 #63

West is disliked by people of all colors who dislike his class analysis Catherina Sep 2015 #66

Here's a link to refresh you of the long-standing animosity/jealousy West and Smiley . . . brush Sep 2015 #67

Awwww, how thoughtful. I'll keep Cornel thank you Catherina Sep 2015 #70

You can certainly keep him brush Sep 2015 #72

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2015 #80

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2015 #79

Maybe West 'picked' Sanders. babylonsister Sep 2015 #84

Yes, thank you Catherina. TM99 Sep 2015 #62

Hi TM! You lucky person Catherina Sep 2015 #68

Thank you Catherina. TM99 Sep 2015 #73

Isn't it about votes? brush Sep 2015 #88

Why not? Do you personally think Cornel West isn't cool? mhatrw Sep 2015 #29

Not in my opinion. n/t jaysunb Sep 2015 #36

Why not ? TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #4

Lots of similarities on real issues. No bs either. Can't wait for Brother Tavis too Catherina Sep 2015 #5

If he brings in Smiley too he may as well concede the black vote to Hillary brush Sep 2015 #47

Here - You can throw cold water on Tavis Smiley, too... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #9

I can't believe the division in the community RobertEarl Sep 2015 #12

The National Black Church Initiative opposes same-sex marriage. kwassa Sep 2015 #22

No more interesting than HRC's view of it... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #24

They also support Kim Davis's belief in Biblical authority .... kwassa Sep 2015 #26

So, naturally, they would be wrong on everything... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #28

Not on your internet, either. kwassa Sep 2015 #32

I'm glad, like Berny... Clinton has evolved on some issues... again... like Bernie uponit7771 Sep 2015 #39

...+1 840high Sep 2015 #34

I appreciate the article but there’s more to the story than just that link GitRDun Sep 2015 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author jfern Sep 2015 #51

Sanders is a democratic socialist, so is West, so how is West worse than Jeremiah Wright? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #14

Wright wasn't a petulant asshole who hated Obama because Obama didn't hold him in enough uponit7771 Sep 2015 #40

I see your problem. The word you used... "CALCULATION". That says it all. Bonobo Sep 2015 #16

Are you serious? brush Sep 2015 #44

No. Cornel went to them. Not the reverse. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #46

That's unfortunate if that is how it happened. brush Sep 2015 #48

We'll see. I personally think truth vs. calculation is like Hare vs. Tortoise. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #50

Is he actually highly unpopular? Or is that just what Hillary supporters say? jfern Sep 2015 #25

Yeah, he's unpopular. brush Sep 2015 #45

So what would you suggest Sanders have done instead? jfern Sep 2015 #53

There are other well-known, prominent AA Sanders supporters without the baggage West carries. nt brush Sep 2015 #56

So you're saying he should have deliberately sought out a 'cool black friend'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #82

Ahhh . . . I never used the term "cool black friend". brush Sep 2015 #89

who are you talking to "in the community?" noiretextatique Sep 2015 #60

Amazing! brush Sep 2015 #65

Just because West is unpopular does not mean he isn't right. mhatrw Sep 2015 #27

He isn't right, he's part of the petulant and irrational expectations set on Obama including uponit7771 Sep 2015 #43

Once you refer to Obama as ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #55

Shhhh, Nance. You're supposed to be listening to black voices, I thought. Bonobo Sep 2015 #71

It doesn't matter what race a person is, racist tripe like "ni^^erized" shouldn't be tolerated among uponit7771 Sep 2015 #77

Nancy Greggs speaks the truth brush Sep 2015 #90

I'm starting to think they did... this was an overtly tone deaf move... like hiring trump to speak t uponit7771 Sep 2015 #38

Analogy fail! TM99 Sep 2015 #59

That's irrelevant, it's NOT ok to call people racist names even in the same race!!! Where the hell uponit7771 Sep 2015 #74

I won't presume to know what race or community you come from TM99 Sep 2015 #87

West wasn't the first to make comments like this about Obama jfern Sep 2015 #52

None of that is a bunch of racist tripe like West has said, it's not OK to call people racist names uponit7771 Sep 2015 #76

He's a socialist. That's why. What do you think Sanders is? McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #57

when did we get so many experts on the AA community here? noiretextatique Sep 2015 #58

Stunning isn't it? Next we're going to be told that women aren't allowed Catherina Sep 2015 #64

Funny how the "listening" thing only works when you agree with the message, isn't it? Bonobo Sep 2015 #69

From people IN the AA community!!?!??!? Or are Sanders supporters going to dismiss that too!? uponit7771 Sep 2015 #75

Did Sanders approach West, or did West approach Sanders? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #78

Scorched earth. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #81

YES!! If Hillary were really the oppurtunist that people claim she is there would be a commerical uponit7771 Sep 2015 #86

Yeah. Agreed. The West quotes can be used to "swiftboat" the Sanders campaign brush Sep 2015 #91

Acc to Sander's campaign mgr~ RiverLover Sep 2015 #83

He's an interesting man, LWolf Sep 2015 #85