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Wild_Dog

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39. WI_DEM let me assume Wisconsin Democrat, if correct then engage you in a Gov Walker discussion?

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:18 PM

Jul 2012

Following my understandING of Lakoff I made this argument about the recall;

Unions and others of course, were all hopped up about the recall with the marches in the streets, etc.

I argued that they and me (I made calls to WI calling for the Walker recall) were not creating messaging for what I call "pseudo-farmers" who where not quote (unionist) that would bring (those who were not union friends) in to vote for Walker's recall.

Of course I don't know why Walker wasn't recalled but one argument was the framing Republicans used that: "it was the wrong issue" and "it was the wrong time". This is framing according to Lakoff and he says such things work so I preach his sermon.

WE NEED TO STUDY FRAMING MORE CAREFULLY AND DO A BETTER JOB

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Just polled this forum! [View all] Wild_Dog Jul 2012 OP

You seem to have something on your mind... rfranklin Jul 2012 #1

George Lakoff explains here; Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #6

Do you think the ReThugs aren't talking a whole lot about Obama? Chemisse Jul 2012 #2

Don't care what they are doing if it is wrong headed! Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #7

Hay! I just needed to cuss and spit on the ground, so I needed to mention Romney. n/t wandy Jul 2012 #3

What does that have to do with the price of eggs? DocMac Jul 2012 #4

More here. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #8

Thanks for the link. DocMac Jul 2012 #11

"You're polling words, not language." Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #18

Huh? Wait Wut Jul 2012 #5

We need to speak Democratic principles not repeat Republican principles Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #9

We're Democrats here. Wait Wut Jul 2012 #12

Lakoff is addressing the middle which is who we need to reach with our thinking/principles Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #15

welcome to DU. yes ... we discuss the opposition. it is a political site scheming daemons Jul 2012 #10

Let's rephrase that a little Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #14

"We agree with SOME of Obama's policies, but not all." Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #16

If you understand Lakoff then don't listen to Lakoff or me because I'm "Suspect". Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #17

More on Lakoff's thinking. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #13

Here is what progressives can learn from right-wing messaging. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #19

Still the same all we do is talk about Romney? Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #20

I still argue that we give voice to Mitt Romney/Republican arguments instead of framing the Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #21

Your logic is flawed Marzupialis Jul 2012 #22

Marzupialis, I'm making Lakoff's argument, a well respected thinker in Democratic messaging here; Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #25

"Lakoff" didn't use your logic Marzupialis Jul 2012 #30

That is not my logic; mine is we are helping Republicans' Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #38

It seems to me that John Kerry and Jimmy Carter had lots of problems mucifer Jul 2012 #23

The Obama campaign is kicking Romney's ass right now, and we're enjoying it. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #24

We should ignore him as if he wasn't even in the room. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #29

Your point?????????????????? appleannie1 Jul 2012 #26

My point is Lakoff's point; do you understand Lakoff????????? Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #31

That's the kind of campaign this is MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #27

Sniff Sniff ,I smell something. orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #28

I am sick and tired of losing to Republicans. Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #33

NEWSFLASH !!! JUST IN orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #34

I addressed your 1st response directly and you come back with this; that has nothing to do with now? Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #36

I'm Here where I've been for 9 yrs orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #40

is this also you? maddezmom Jul 2012 #41

Astute as always ,maddezmom orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #42

maybe just his partner maddezmom Jul 2012 #43

I know too much about emilyg Jul 2012 #32

Well said; could not have said it better! Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #35

nobody is stopping you from posting the types of threads you want WI_DEM Jul 2012 #37

WI_DEM let me assume Wisconsin Democrat, if correct then engage you in a Gov Walker discussion? Wild_Dog Jul 2012 #39