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In reply to the discussion: While I support the overall BLM movement, the group's so-called "representatives" have lost me. [View all]AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)203. calls black activists "identity politics reductionists"
I think it has something to do with one issue voting.
And BLM does not represent all "black activists".... does it?
"Sanders is losing in every single solitary demographic within the Dem party base. "
Is he?
got any conclusive proof? 'Cause I mean, he can't be losing in the "Bernie Sanders supporters" demographic.
Here's a Daily Kos demographic layout from July;
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/10/1400974/-Bernie-Sanders-Breaks-20-in-a-National-Poll-for-the-First-Time-Gaining-Support-Across-Demographics
In some demographics he's not losing by much.... and of course he's ahead in the "Independents" column.
But he hasn't the name recognition Clinton has, of course. That can change.... especially if the Dems ever decide to have a debate.
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While I support the overall BLM movement, the group's so-called "representatives" have lost me. [View all]
gobears10
Aug 2015
OP
Please explain to me what "your" issues are, that are not "issues" for POC also
passiveporcupine
Aug 2015
#221
Their efforts to sow dissension are laughable. Black folks are 85% for Hillary right now and if
Number23
Aug 2015
#270
Ask her what she had to say about Hillary back in '08 if you want the conversation
A Simple Game
Aug 2015
#174
It's kinda unreal, brave.. but this is DU now.. so it's more like business as usual. All I can
Cha
Aug 2015
#141
This OP won the support of the poc that have said "Fuck Black Twitter," denigrated #BLM
Number23
Aug 2015
#218
Which Candidate do YOU think will Best Support Policy Positions of BLM- (of those currently running)
KoKo
Aug 2015
#220
Of course it matters. By running, he will undermine the party for decades to come
Sheepshank
Aug 2015
#200
what's that the Bernie camp keeps saying:"If you dont have something to saud, insult"
Sheepshank
Aug 2015
#209
Between 1993 and 2001, we were in disarray for lack of unity and party building
Ken Burch
Aug 2015
#216
He's not an Independent in this race ffs. You keep saying that, it's obvious you are using it
cui bono
Aug 2015
#156
And yet Clinton is hiding some where not making any statements re. her support of fracking,
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#136
"Conclusive" proof would be every single poll that has Hillary winning in every single demographic
Number23
Aug 2015
#217
I have absolutely no idea why you are responding to me, particularly as its obvious that you are
Number23
Aug 2015
#248
They just can't get over that reality, can they? She was previously (PREVIOUSLY!) scheduled to be..
George II
Aug 2015
#66
"She was the keynote speaker at an annual DEMOCRATIC Dinner, in a red state teetering on turning
Cha
Aug 2015
#147
Don't care what your interpretation is. It's important to many people that Hillary was there.
Cha
Aug 2015
#232
I don't think that is the definition. I think a no show is someone who doesn't show up
cui bono
Aug 2015
#256
it's definitely as broad as OWS was, so there's gonna be a LOT of different factions
MisterP
Aug 2015
#54
Fortunately, he is connecting with them. BLM is one group that prefers Clinton.
arcane1
Aug 2015
#16
Nobody is stupid enough to say he has unanimous support, nor stupid enough to say he has none.
arcane1
Aug 2015
#87
Bernie obviously connected with the op who is a poc. Why are you dismissing them?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#33
I'm not talking about polls, I'm talking about respecting the op's right to an opinion.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#155
Aren't political polls, particularly in the US, deliberately commissioned with a view to
Joe Chi Minh
Aug 2015
#173
not yet.....and certainly not because of "a trap he's set for himself."
virtualobserver
Aug 2015
#81
But he is. There just happens to be some of them who prefer another candidate
cui bono
Aug 2015
#158
most definitely. It's also the candidate who went racist during the 2008 primary
Doctor_J
Aug 2015
#123
Exactly! It's sad to see people exploiting the cause behind BLM, just for cheap political points.
arcane1
Aug 2015
#100
We've been hearing this for months, the only poc who matter are the ones who support Hillary.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#151
Check out the poc in this thread who are agreeing with the op but being completely ignored.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#167
Because it directly challenges the meme that poc don't support Bernie.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#38
They want to shame and shout down everyone who doesn't support Hillary.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#153
YES! The HC supporters who keep screaming at us to listen should take their own advice.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#246
Witness here. And, it will really get interesting if Biden throws his hat into the ring.
Hiraeth
Aug 2015
#196
The more I see of O'M the better I like him. But his polling numbers are dismal. The Democratic...
freshwest
Aug 2015
#252
They have thrown their support behind Hillary, no problem. Smearing Bernie, big problem.
GoneFishin
Aug 2015
#53
Yet you, unembarassedly, do it ... day in and day out. Do you NOT have a mirror? n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#99
Okay; but, have you considered that to the group you are seeking to influence ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#128
Does anybody see the irony that our interlocutor has nothing unkind ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2015
#107
LINK? A representative of BLM was on MSNBC, in which he praised Hillary Clinton's recent statements
uhnope
Aug 2015
#71
That horse left the barn a long time ago. And the folks a'kicking and a'recing this
Number23
Aug 2015
#84
but by that rule wouldn't the Sanders campaign count as a group fighting for social justice?
MisterP
Aug 2015
#110
Exactly, and women would be just as angry if someone told them that they should be
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#132
Psst - you do realize much of the outrage over Sanders is about his "tone".
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2015
#180
Nope, tone is the way it is delivered. Trust me- been hearing about the "tone" even here as it
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#272
My, unsolicited and no doubt undesired advice, would be for Bernie's campaign to step back ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#82
I don't think the vast majority of Bernie supporters are in any way against
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2015
#182
Possible, although I think Bernie's been enough of a rock on economic justice
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2015
#185
That comes off as a pretty slimy insinuation of racism among Sanders supporters.
Comrade Grumpy
Aug 2015
#238
I don't understand it either, gobears, they're both incredibly important issues;
Uncle Joe
Aug 2015
#96
Excellent post. You're going to need Space Shuttle style heat-resistant tiles to keep from getting
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#98
AAs are tightly welded to the Dem party and Clinton is said party's "officialist" candidate
MisterP
Aug 2015
#115
Have they forgotten Clinton's "welfare reform" laws that were put in to effect then?
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#215
Let me hip you to a cold fact. The people who make up that movement are committed and
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#119
A long winded OP that attempts to deny the reality that Bernie isn't connecting with minorities
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#130
Really.. I'm sure the Protesters at #BlackLivesMatters will do just fine without the Op. they
Cha
Aug 2015
#140
+1, keyword ... MINORITIE(S) ... no just black folk .. I wish this wasn't looked at so much as a...
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#148
Ta-Nehisi Coates writes at length about the impact of economic injustice here:
Maedhros
Aug 2015
#145
Thom Hartmann is good in relaying Robert Reich's comments on this situation...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#152
I suppose any black American can claim to be a BLM leader, and our bought-and-paid-for ...
Scuba
Aug 2015
#175
"It almost sounds like Hillary, her campaign, and BLM's "representatives"" . . .
Triana
Aug 2015
#205
Don't bother with that one. He/she/it is drowning in self-righteous wrath.
Comrade Grumpy
Aug 2015
#239
Mahalo for this, heaven.. I know this is true.. and this is coming from someone of European
Cha
Aug 2015
#235
I can barely speak on this subject. Thanks for your strong opinion and posts. n/t
freshwest
Aug 2015
#253