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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Breaks 20% in a National Poll for the First Time; Gaining Support Across Demographics [View all]dirtydickcheney
(242 posts)136. Show me where people get fired up about Hillary - she doesnt' have a WOW! factor at all.
And again (and most importantly)- show me where she took on Big Money or the Status Quo?
Because I have my money on her challenging those two very important things exactly zero.
And so much so that I bet a friend she wouldn't be the Democratic Nominee BEFORE Bernie even got in the race.
She's just not engaging and is a Big Money sellout (just IMHO)....those aren't things that sound good for any candidate. Especially one who needs the Left to get elected.
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Bernie Sanders Breaks 20% in a National Poll for the First Time; Gaining Support Across Demographics [View all]
Le Taz Hot
Jul 2015
OP
25% is not bad at all for 7 months out and before any debates against the Clinton Machine.
morningfog
Jul 2015
#1
this is more significant than hillary because this is word of mouth. Consider what it might do if he
roguevalley
Jul 2015
#115
I think that once Sanders gets over the "not viable" hump his popularity will soar.
leveymg
Jul 2015
#105
If it helps Hillary, the DNC will move other states ahead or onto the same dates as NH and Iowa.
leveymg
Jul 2015
#121
I did not think she was a great candidate in 08. Which is why I supported Obama.
sabrina 1
Jul 2015
#200
Biden would get a percentage of the "not Clinton" support that is currently going to Sanders. n/t
PoliticAverse
Jul 2015
#31
The data suggests Clinton does better when Biden isn't included in the polls
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#78
Here are the unskewed numbers from the poll that was posted at Daily Kos ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#156
Did I did I or did I not post the headline (unskewed results) from the poll?
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#160
I presented the numbers (unskewed) as they appeared on yougov's website
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#183
I would think (hope) you are right since I am for HRC, but then really
arely staircase
Jul 2015
#155
It was rumored about a week ago Biden was planning to enter the race. Not sure what his timeframe
PoliticAverse
Jul 2015
#28
As I have said since the question of his ability to win the general came up
BrotherIvan
Jul 2015
#13
No, 66% of the people they asked. Then they weight responses based on their voter model.
jeff47
Jul 2015
#151
We don't have to massage the numbers to envision how Madame Secretary would fare
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#9
Your own chart shows Hillary support softening and Bernie support increasing over time
peacebird
Jul 2015
#24
Hillary has been dropping in all polls by 3-5 points month over month, Bernie is climbing by more
peacebird
Jul 2015
#104
Show me where people get fired up about Hillary - she doesnt' have a WOW! factor at all.
dirtydickcheney
Jul 2015
#136
If President Obama and I were on a sinking ship together and there was one life preserver left
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#193
The polling of Hillary v the Republicans does the arithmetic for you.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#91
Can you cite data and not opinion that any Democrat can beat any Republican for president
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#97
So what Sanders needs is a massive voter re-registration campaign to re-register
JDPriestly
Jul 2015
#17
Note what's happened to both Republicans and Democrats up until recent times here in Oregon...
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#79
My neighbors. I'm in California. A lot of liberal Californians (who are much more liberal
JDPriestly
Jul 2015
#118
We are making inferences from and massaging this poll to where it no longer makes sense...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#75
Register voters in geographical areas or sections of your city or town in which likely
JDPriestly
Jul 2015
#120
Great. For the 2016 election, we need to register every Democrat we can. Thanks.
JDPriestly
Jul 2015
#143
My brother suggested that we concentrate registering voters in low income, minority neighborhoods-
fed-up
Jul 2015
#197
But the difference is that FOR ONCE they have more of an independent running as a Democrat...
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#84
I showed a graph where percentage-wise and in numbers more voters have left the Democrats in Oregon.
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#127
That's true in all the state's ... Federal "motor voter" law from the Clinton era. nt
hedda_foil
Jul 2015
#188
The tried and true, time tested way is to find your local Democratic organization and tell them
hedda_foil
Jul 2015
#201
I've done all that, since 2007. I just wish voter registration would be automatic.
PADemD
Jul 2015
#203
But in most (if not all) of those open primaries, a voter has to be registered with a Party....
George II
Jul 2015
#47
In Virginia you just have to be a registered voter. Rules for open or closed primaries:
peacebird
Jul 2015
#100
Good point and good information - that one arrived just as I was sending mine!
George II
Jul 2015
#29
Actually some states have open primaries like California, where an independent can request either a
still_one
Jul 2015
#54
I assume it is under "other", but that only puts emphasis that they excluded him
still_one
Jul 2015
#65
Without the benefit of national exposure vis a vis debates, his rise in national polling is amazing.
AtomicKitten
Jul 2015
#19
Without the benefit of national exposure? Have you been watching the news the last few weeks?
George II
Jul 2015
#32
I think even though corporate media Bernies's not seen much in other media he is NATIONAL...
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#44
That's the fallacy of these snapshot polls - they indicate results AT that time, not shortly after..
George II
Jul 2015
#34
If the general election reflected the will of the American people on policy positions
MillennialDem
Jul 2015
#35
According to your own graph BHO was down 15-20 points at this time in 07
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#40
I was noting that the counts shown in this poll show Hillary with 43% and Bernie with 24%...
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#48
I was noting that the counts shown in this poll show Hillary with 43% and Bernie with 24%...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#53
Many of these "Independents" will register as Democrats to vote for Bernie...
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#58
Using the same methodology(same compilation of polls) she's up 57-17 now...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#82
Here in Portland, Sanders should take the scenic route down SANDY BOULEVARD to the downtown area...
cascadiance
Jul 2015
#71
Why isn't O'Malley in there? I cannot believe he doesn't have as much as Chafee, and they should
still_one
Jul 2015
#52
I guess we can assume that it is in the "other" category, which begs the question as you said if
still_one
Jul 2015
#67
I don't always agree with Bernie on issues but at least I really know where he ...
spin
Jul 2015
#142
He's getting this momentum, which hasn't peaked, from his introductory message
Babel_17
Jul 2015
#196