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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What I'd like to say to anyone who likes Bernie best but is afraid he's unelectable... [View all]Gothmog
(146,796 posts)183. Even President Obama had to use a super pac in 2012
President Obama dislikes Citizens United but was forced to use a super pac to keep the contest close. Sanders will be at a major disadvantage without a super pac and adequate financial resources
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What I'd like to say to anyone who likes Bernie best but is afraid he's unelectable... [View all]
rbnyc
Jun 2015
OP
I'm with you. I try not to give much time to the noise machine out there. Work hard
Jefferson23
Jun 2015
#1
I am with you. And - some advice to noise machine - multiple DEEPLY CONCERNED OPs by
djean111
Jun 2015
#2
True and it can take away from legitimate concerns that must be defined by the candidates
Jefferson23
Jun 2015
#20
Absolutely. It is frustrating for many of us, I do believe we have a wealth of available
Jefferson23
Jun 2015
#33
easy for me to say I guess. Here in blue CT Bernie will probably have really high
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#30
I hope that you put your biggest effort into electing Democratic legislators to the Senate and House
jwirr
Jun 2015
#100
It did work. But in 2008 it did not. People are sick and tired of negative campaigning and politics
jwirr
Jun 2015
#104
Better questions might be, "Why assume that large numbers of people who are willing to
winter is coming
Jul 2015
#173
Although we need to get rid of Citizens United, as long as the really big donors
maddiemom
Jun 2015
#39
It is sad that we have to live in a world post Citizens United where money is so important
Gothmog
Jun 2015
#73
Not to mention all the millions of small shareholders aligned against democracy.
raouldukelives
Jun 2015
#48
Small contributions are great and President Obama won in 2008 with small contributions
Gothmog
Jul 2015
#180
Very true. For me its a matter of dying on my feet than living on my knees.
raouldukelives
Jul 2015
#195
Now add in the rest of the super-PACs. Like the Koch brothers that was in the post I replied to.
jeff47
Jun 2015
#138
Perot got 18.9% of the popular vote... Those anti-free trade votes will be back this time!
cascadiance
Jun 2015
#83
Negative advertising works and without a well financed campaign the Kochs would bury Sanders
Gothmog
Jun 2015
#93
Keep in mind that when CU was decided almost everyone here said the same thing.
onenote
Jun 2015
#131
And yet negative ads work and I fear that the Kochs can bury Sanders with negative ads
Gothmog
Jul 2015
#177
Unfortunately that is also true of Hillary. If we are going to fight this fight on a who has the
jwirr
Jun 2015
#98
Not really in that Hillary Clinton should be able to compete with and keep the money fight close
Gothmog
Jul 2015
#176
I wasn't referring to Bernie. She can sell her soul but she is not going to be able to keep up with
jwirr
Jul 2015
#194
Without sufficient financial resources, I fear that Sanders will not be able to compete
Gothmog
Jul 2015
#175
How does work if Sanders lacks the financial resources to respond to negative ads?
Gothmog
Jul 2015
#187
I would not ever do anything to help a Republican in any fashion..they have proven lethal
Jefferson23
Jun 2015
#36
Keep in mind many of us are in states that would not be competitive for Clinton.
jeff47
Jun 2015
#56
In states like your's it is still important to work on local elections - if you can get anyone on
jwirr
Jun 2015
#110
Yes, note I didn't say I would stay home. Just that my president vote is probably meaningless. (nt)
jeff47
Jun 2015
#115
I will be with my daughter on her 18th birthday at her voter registration, she will vote for Bernie
Dont call me Shirley
Jun 2015
#109
That's wonderful about your daughter, so glad to hear it. The uphill battle they've
appalachiablue
Jun 2015
#112
I always took my kids to vote with me when they were little. It rubs off on them!
Dont call me Shirley
Jun 2015
#114
Here is a thread on Bernie's electability, starting with a video of Bernie's own words on the matter
merrily
Jun 2015
#32
If Obama could get 9 million Republicans to switch over to him in '08, why would that
Jefferson23
Jun 2015
#40
The middle class is ripe for the taking, where are they going to go for relief? That is my point.
Jefferson23
Jun 2015
#51
Indies and Republicans seem very receptive to things Bernie is saying, more than Hillary supporters.
merrily
Jun 2015
#68
I favor Bernie Sanders and I am prepared to vote for any Democratic candidate for President.
gordianot
Jun 2015
#46
Powerfully said, thank you. The gutting and abandonment of industrial and small town America
appalachiablue
Jun 2015
#118
I am not afraid that he is unelectable. That is nothing to fear; it's a fact.
Persondem
Jun 2015
#60
Oh, Bernie is great on the issues and I do not mind the Socialist tag one bit ...
Persondem
Jun 2015
#111
And if you are really sincere, do what Bernie does, almost NEVER criticize or even mention
randys1
Jun 2015
#101
I'm worried. Maybe I've watched too many movies like "The Ides of March" and TV series like "House
AikidoSoul
Jun 2015
#106
And your target audience are rank and file Dems ... who already plan to vote for Hillary ...
JoePhilly
Jun 2015
#137
If you elect him, prepare to see him become no more progressive as a President than Obama.
Arkana
Jun 2015
#162
the "inevitability" meme has given way to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme. nt
antigop
Jun 2015
#167