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8. No, it's a brazen lie from the usual Naderite assholes

Reply to Cal33 (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2015, 07:46 PM

May 2015

Citizens United is the law of the land. It defines the rules governing elections.

One does not need to LIKE or SUPPORT the rules to recognize that they are indeed the rules.

It's also true that one can simultaneously (a) play to win under the rules and (b) seek to change the rules.

In fact, under our political system, one does not change the rules unless one wins under the rules.

Citizens United is not going to go away because progressives click their heels together three times and say "there's no place for money in politics. there's no place for money in politics. there's no place for money in politics."

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Can this be really true? "Democrats embrace Citizens United in Defense of Clinton." See below. [View all] Cal33 May 2015 OP

A little more from your link-- Jackpine Radical May 2015 #1

i believe that citizen's united was the SCOTUS's attempt samsingh May 2015 #2

+1 savalez May 2015 #14

No BainsBane May 2015 #3

+1 Hekate May 2015 #15

Big difference in "embracing", and playing the hand you've been dealt by SCOTUS. nt Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #4

It's the Bruno Gianelli rule: Arkana May 2015 #9

Um, no! You use what is law until you can change it. leftofcool May 2015 #5

Hate the game, not the player. JoePhilly May 2015 #6

It seems that under these same rules, Hillary has found a way to not only benefit from them, but Cal33 May 2015 #10

Plus, the Republican corporate donors will be spreading their primary money ... JoePhilly May 2015 #11

There is a group of wealthy Democrats called "The Patriotic Millionaires" who want to pay higher Cal33 May 2015 #12

Food for thought for all Democrats. AtomicKitten May 2015 #7

No, it's a brazen lie from the usual Naderite assholes geek tragedy May 2015 #8

It's Truth Out - of course... MaggieD May 2015 #13