2016 Postmortem

Dream Girl

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4. The idea that it shouldn't have been close enough to steal is plain wrong.

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:10 AM

Dec 2016

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Why a are we okay with living with the reality that voter theft and riggingis a fact of life and we just need a bigger margin? Like battered wife syndrome. (It's my fault he hit me. I shouldnt have said anything to him about being out late). We are tying one hand behind our backs and it can only get worse. Election fraud is and should always been front and center. We need to fight this with every fiber of our being...it's not about agendas and broadening coalitions, to parafrase a brilliant politician, "it's the stealing stupid"

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Why all the navel gazing and tortured reflection? [View all] Dream Girl Dec 2016 OP

And even if it wasn't stolen, Clinton performed very well. Orsino Dec 2016 #1

As well as expected I would say... Begabig Dec 2016 #8

Above what? MADem Dec 2016 #24

Above where most people expected him to be... Begabig Dec 2016 #26

His people insisted he was going to win NY and CA. MADem Dec 2016 #29

I was thinking more about what people outside his organization expected... Begabig Dec 2016 #31

winning 2nd in a 2 person race isn't exactly a huge victory NRQ891 Dec 2016 #21

This was another hugely divisive requirement from Sanders. Context only R B Garr Dec 2016 #25

Actually I agree with you! and do think that in spite of all obstacles Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #2

A couple of reasons: TwilightZone Dec 2016 #3

The idea that it shouldn't have been close enough to steal is plain wrong. Dream Girl Dec 2016 #4

And every four years we watch yet another sketchy election... Raster Dec 2016 #6

Yes, this is maddening. We the peeps need to demand fair and secure elections. JudyM Dec 2016 #7

I don't disagree, but it is, sadly, a political reality. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #9

Bingo...that is where the power lies. National senate elections are sexy, but we need to focus on Dream Girl Dec 2016 #11

The only way to move forward is to admit we made mistakes, fix Exilednight Dec 2016 #5

I've been comparing the MichMary Dec 2016 #10

No evidence, but my understandingg is Wisconsin is rotten to the core. Voter Dream Girl Dec 2016 #12

Yup. Voter suppression is REAL MichMary Dec 2016 #15

Claiming the election was stolen is the ultimate form of denial hueymahl Dec 2016 #13

Yep, people claiming stolen election sound as bad as the right did after 2008 and 2012. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #14

It was stolen in Ohio 2004, so that's more than 10 years for that one. Dream Girl Dec 2016 #17

I think there is supression in some states. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #18

Have you been paying attention to what's happened in Wayne county? Dream Girl Dec 2016 #16

Her lead in polling was insurmountable? Yurovsky Dec 2016 #22

I know well what polling is, in fact do it for a living. The insurmountable lead I refer to is early Dream Girl Dec 2016 #30

And outside of the coasts, we've been getting spanked... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #36

If that notion keeps you on an even keel till 2020, it is something to cling to. jmg257 Dec 2016 #19

No how, no way HRC in 2020... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #23

There is absolutely nothing comforting about the rigging. In fact it is quite depressing to think Dream Girl Dec 2016 #28

because six months ago, this party was gloating about the demise of the Republican party NRQ891 Dec 2016 #20

This is so wrongheaded. There was an organized effort by a faction of embittered R B Garr Dec 2016 #27

Gore picked a certified right wing dufus as VP NRQ891 Dec 2016 #32

Nader spent months poisoning gullible people by saying both parties R B Garr Dec 2016 #33

Mistakes were made, clearly. alarimer Dec 2016 #34

'Trying the "Third Way" bullshit to appeal to disaffected Republicans instead of non-voters or' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #35