2016 Postmortem

liberalmuse

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10. I've been trying.

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:38 PM

Jul 2016

So far, I know 5 Bernie supporters (close friends and family) who will either write him in or vote Green rather than vote for Hillary. Hillary has been so demonized over the past 20+ years that it's hard to convince people most of it is bullshit. They believe they can get away with voting "their conscience" because we are in a blue state, however, our state isn't all that solid blue like CA is. I also know from caucusing that many Bernie supporters said they were unwilling to vote for HRC if she got the nomination.

Luckily I'm older and will die soon and will not have to watch the millennials, their children, their grandchildren, etc. reap the full consequences if god forbid, Drumpf wins. People are so angry that they are willing to fuck themselves over with "all or nothing" rather than be pragmatic. I'm sincerely hoping that there is still a reasonable, intelligent majority of Americans still left in this country.

Part of me believes Hillary will win, but I'm not taking anything for granted and will ensure I do my best to convince people I know that this is not a fucking game or drill like idiots thought Brexit was.

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We have to reach out to young bernie supporters who might stay home [View all] agnostic102 Jul 2016 OP

If they are likely to vote for us, fine BeyondGeography Jul 2016 #1

Ask John Kerry how that worked out in 2004 tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #2

thats frustrating agnostic102 Jul 2016 #4

Not really. Barely higher in 08 (lower than 92), much lower in 12 whatthehey Jul 2016 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #27

Yep. We would do better to make sure there is transportation from assisted living facilities. Squinch Jul 2016 #28

Dismissive attitudes like yours are one of the things that keeps young people from voting democrattotheend Jul 2016 #33

Democrats have reached out especially about financial aid and college DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #40

IMO, It's about perspective. HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #49

Show them images of the wars they will be fighting if Trump wins liberal N proud Jul 2016 #3

exactly!!! agnostic102 Jul 2016 #5

Yes.......!!!! Stuart G Jul 2016 #6

You mean like they stayed home in the primary? nt glennward Jul 2016 #7

Yes, this. GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #21

The suggestions here all appear to fear. Renaissance Man Jul 2016 #8

but agnostic102 Jul 2016 #9

Fear is what drives them. Hope and change does NOT. These young voters grew up on a steady BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #12

People often use horror films marions ghost Jul 2016 #16

I'm not a psychiatrist so I won't claim to know that as a proven truth, but anecdotally speaking, BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #18

We disagree marions ghost Jul 2016 #19

And that's fine by me. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #20

You work with young people marions ghost Jul 2016 #22

Yeah, I work with young people, and yeah, fear is a strong driving force to get their BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #24

A lot of people are voting for Trump out of fear marions ghost Jul 2016 #25

Correction: A lot of REPUBLICAN and LIBERTARIAN people plan to vote for DumbTrump out of BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #39

disagree on the point that marions ghost Jul 2016 #44

Nice try, ghost, but no sale. Reread the sub-thread for clarity because you're apparently confused. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #47

Thank you! marions ghost Jul 2016 #15

I've been trying. liberalmuse Jul 2016 #10

Yep, because they're willing victims of Republican propaganda - something that could've been wiped BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #14

It's funny... liberalmuse Jul 2016 #17

Only seven states will allow them to write in votes.... bettyellen Jul 2016 #45

People should be patient with all voters. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #11

Maybe we need to raise the voting age.... CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #13

Yes. They're not really the "base" if they're likely to stay home... NurseJackie Jul 2016 #23

They never voted before, even if they could have, so they won't show up anyway. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #26

we should do away with secret ballot jtunes Jul 2016 #29

Put Pikachu at the poll sites. rug Jul 2016 #31

I wouldn't waste another minute on the hard core Hillary haters. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #32

I don't think that is who the OP is talking about democrattotheend Jul 2016 #34

well said renate Jul 2016 #43

They didn't turn out much for Sanders either JI7 Jul 2016 #35

Actually, though somewhat true... Xyzse Jul 2016 #37

lol JI7 Jul 2016 #38

hello. all they had to do was to go toBernies website DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #41

Obviously many just consider them idiots and don't want to deal with them. Xyzse Jul 2016 #36

in WI there was a supreme court judge on ticket who was anti LGBT and a Dem judge DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #42

K&R B Calm Jul 2016 #46

Young people don't vote.. Sancho Jul 2016 #48