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ebayfool

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95. Life isn't about 1 issue? It's a biggie if you live in the middle of it.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:29 AM
Jun 2016

I don't feel like my family's health and welfare is a frigging "issue" to be trifled or used as a bargaining tool/pawn. Those that talk about expediency and 'short term' have no clue what it's like for the peons that are living it.

Life isn't about 1 issue, no. BUT being progressive doesn't mean you relegate people's lives to a back burner. It means you multi-task and take on the big issues that affect others. You don't fix everything at once, no. But you damned well make the attempt instead of playing triage on those it most affects and shrug it off with an - Oh well. We'll get to it later. Hope ya'll make it on your own without too many birth defects, breathing problems, cancers, etc. And don't forget to buy bottled water! It's good for the economy! Don't forget to donate to the party and vote Democratic!

Yes, Brown done some good stuff. But he fails miserably on fracking and I won't make excuses for him. He can and should do better. The race for progress isn't over when you have some done. And if he isn't done, why isn't he helping with one of the biggest issues facing the Central Valley? Do you know that 95% of California's fracking is done in 1, count 'em ONE, county?

This is not a Sanders only issue for me, either. Though it is ONE of the reasons I support him. The following is from my Journal, without the Sanders stuff so that maybe, MAYBE! - some of you people will read it ... minus the candidate glasses. This isn't academic speculation. It's real life. It's our families. Not a matter of prioritization of issues. Fracking hits our air. Our water. Our food. Big oil is too powerful to take on at the local level. It takes a big gun, like the governor, to make any headway. And he doesn't take it on in a real, meaningful way.


http://earthjustice.org/blog/2015-december/one-california-countys-fracked-idea

@ 2 miles from home, and there is so many more all over the county.



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It’s Kern County, California with around 42,000 active wells . California is the third largest oil producing state, behind Texas and North Dakota. The epicenter of the state’s oil boom is Kern County, which lies about 100 miles north of Los Angeles in the rural Central Valley. Kern is home to approximately 75 percent of California's oil drilling and 95 percent of the state’s fracking, and regulators hope to keep the black gold flowing.

Last month, the county board of supervisors approved a new ordinance that would purportedly allow oil and gas companies to fast track drilling permits for tens of thousands of new wells in the next two decades with no environmental review and no public notice or participation. On Thursday, Earthjustice filed a lawsuit against Kern County on behalf of the Sierra Club and the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), in coordination with the Center on Race, Poverty & the Environment and the Center for Biological Diversity. The Earthjustice suit challenges the county’s claim that a single environmental review conducted before the ordinance was passed is sufficient to authorize up to 3,647 new oil and gas wells a year for the next 20 years or longer, for a total of 72,000 new wells.

NRDC found that 14 percent of Californians—5.4 million people—live within one mile of an oil or gas well. Of that group, 69 percent are people of color, most Hispanic or Latino. Low-income communities of color typically face disproportionate financial and health burdens from heavy industry, including oil and gas production. The new wells authorized by the Kern County plan would be built in an area that already has some of the nation’s worst air quality. According to the American Lung Association, Bakersfield, the largest city in Kern County, is the second worst city in the country for air pollution, both short-term and year-round.

Air pollution from oil and gas wells can exacerbate illnesses like asthma and high blood pressure, and fracking, specifically, has been linked to water pollution, which can occur when massive amounts of fracking wastewater laced with chemicals are injected deep underground. Just one barrel of fracked oil produces 10 barrels of contaminated waste water that must be disposed of.


Lets be honest about Jerry Brown... [View all] AZ Progressive May 2016 OP
Being a progressive or a democrat or liberal isn't based on any beachbumbob May 2016 #1
Nobody's perfect, but people always have a reason for their actions Ash_F May 2016 #5
Ditto! tonyt53 May 2016 #7
I like Jerry Brown Ned_Devine May 2016 #57
I would think the fracking-induced earthquakes in Oklahoma should make any Dem refuse to support it. LonePirate May 2016 #58
+10. n/t whathehell Jun 2016 #102
The US government was the first to "frack" OK. They pumped fluid down wells to dispose of it. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #103
Why don't they do like NY does and outlaw it? redstateblues Jun 2016 #104
Oil companies are very influential with OK Repubs. That's why OK is passing abortion felony laws. LonePirate Jun 2016 #106
He has done very little to restore the drastic cuts to the social safety net that Ahh-nuld made KamaAina May 2016 #67
That is disappointing. Ash_F May 2016 #2
Fracking metroins May 2016 #3
So poisoning people's water seems to be ok to you? AZ Progressive May 2016 #6
Yes metroins May 2016 #12
Please look at the Gasland and Gasland II documentaries AZ Progressive May 2016 #13
Please look at the asco meeting notes from 2013 metroins May 2016 #25
Water is an essential building block of life on earth. mmonk May 2016 #9
Yes it is. metroins May 2016 #14
The problem is that we now know that the consequences are long term Ash_F May 2016 #10
Yes, there consequences. metroins May 2016 #15
When does your "short term" support for fracking end? KeepItReal May 2016 #47
When a cleaner metroins May 2016 #49
Are you also for the export of fracked petrochemical products to foreign markets? KeepItReal May 2016 #68
I'm most certainly pro economic development metroins May 2016 #70
You might as well be for profits over people if you support fracking AZ Progressive May 2016 #75
I think you may be extrapolating metroins May 2016 #77
What the ? "Life isn't about 1 issue or fixing everything at once." First of all one is rhett o rick May 2016 #62
Destroying the Earth does disqualify you, yes. roody Jun 2016 #94
Life isn't about 1 issue? It's a biggie if you live in the middle of it. ebayfool Jun 2016 #95
CA thanks AZ for its concern. Starry Messenger May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive May 2016 #8
Also John McCain and Joe Arpaio. ucrdem May 2016 #82
The state that made immigrants live in fear. Starry Messenger May 2016 #83
Uh-oh ucrdem May 2016 #84
Seriously. Starry Messenger May 2016 #86
Yep ucrdem May 2016 #87
Boom! redstateblues Jun 2016 #105
Interesting that Hillary supporters here act like fracking is no big deal AZ Progressive May 2016 #11
Amazing how litmus-test purity police discount the totality of a lifetime of good work BeyondGeography May 2016 #16
So you wanna be like a Republican? AZ Progressive May 2016 #20
Fellow HRC endorser Tom Hayden thinks you're wrong about Brown's environmental record BeyondGeography May 2016 #23
Seem to have missed that. Eko May 2016 #19
THE WHEELS ON THE BUS GO ROLL, ROLL, ROLL! Tarc May 2016 #17
This election is separating the wheat from the chaff. pdsimdars May 2016 #18
Indeed! AZ Progressive May 2016 #21
Democrats are showing their true colors. Maedhros May 2016 #29
Progressives put people first, Moderate / Conservative Republicans put Corporations first AZ Progressive May 2016 #22
Correct Ferd Berfel May 2016 #52
^^ This ^^ Scuba May 2016 #56
You guys need a bus the size of Antarctica at this point. nt JTFrog May 2016 #24
More purity calls. Even Bernie fails them. CrowCityDem May 2016 #26
Brown signs climate change bill to spur renewable energy, efficiency standards Starry Messenger May 2016 #27
Good grief, Jerry Brown is a solid Dem (nt) TacoD May 2016 #28
Your not convincing anyone... AZ Progressive May 2016 #31
Even the article you link goes out of its way to laud Brown's strong environmental record on most TacoD May 2016 #37
If your honest 99% of the time and you do a big lie, is that enough for others to lose trust in you? AZ Progressive May 2016 #39
If you are progressive on 99% of issues and wrong on a big one, is that enough for others to TacoD May 2016 #40
Tell me how you can justify poisoning the water supply and flirting with earthquake faults and.... AZ Progressive May 2016 #59
The same way Bernie can justify helping murderers easily get guns. Everyone has something. CrowCityDem May 2016 #76
"Solid Dem" is not equivalent with "liberal" or "progressive" or "decent politician." [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #32
Jerry Brown is liberal, progressive and a decent politician (nt) TacoD May 2016 #50
No true progressive TacoD May 2016 #30
No pay attention. Maedhros May 2016 #34
You seem to take particular delight in telling people you're ignoring them (nt) TacoD May 2016 #38
LOL: "I generally don't like to put people on ignore" TacoD May 2016 #45
You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! zappaman May 2016 #33
Thank you. Lucinda May 2016 #63
They attack anyone who endorses Hillary. They are no more tolerant than the Tea Party IMO. Trust Buster May 2016 #35
Surprising how few here actually give a damn about the people in California AZ Progressive May 2016 #36
"And most who have posted here are Hillary's chihuahuas..." zappaman May 2016 #41
Hillary supporters put Hillary over party and country AZ Progressive May 2016 #44
Some here denigrate a fantastic governor because he didn't endorse their candidate. zappaman May 2016 #48
If your good 99.9% of the time and then commit murder, does that still make you a good person? AZ Progressive May 2016 #51
Murder? Give me a break. Something tells me your contempt for Gov. Brown is newfound as of TacoD May 2016 #60
Fracking matters in California because a lot of it is in the Central Valley, where the nation's... AZ Progressive May 2016 #64
Calling people names when your thread fails...is that progressive? BeyondGeography May 2016 #43
What a fucking disgusting comment. JTFrog Jun 2016 #93
Last week Bill Clinton went to Sacramento for a long meeting with Jerry Brown. senz May 2016 #42
He must have had those pics of Jerry in drag. ronnykmarshall May 2016 #89
Nah, probably just carrot and stick stuff -- politics as usual. senz May 2016 #90
There goes Jerry......... Beacool May 2016 #46
Much of the party is corrupt. That's what corporate money / special interest money does AZ Progressive May 2016 #54
he's done so much else that is wrong, too! amborin May 2016 #53
he double-crossed on the water tunnels & habitat preservation amborin May 2016 #55
Do you why he's for the Twin Tunnels Project even thought he knows it's DOA? Brother Buzz May 2016 #69
OMG.... Jerry under the bus, along with Warren and Louis and PP and Neral. seabeyond May 2016 #61
Yeah, let's be honest, shall we? NanceGreggs May 2016 #65
No fucking shit. zappaman May 2016 #71
They would be proposing him as VP! lol BootinUp May 2016 #74
And not one has successfully defended fracking here. My purpose is done :D AZ Progressive May 2016 #66
If your purpose was to show you know fuck all about Jerry Brown, then success! zappaman May 2016 #72
metroins did upthread: it's less bad than coal, which is the other option (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #97
Under the bus he goes Dem2 May 2016 #73
Like this? Mnpaul May 2016 #78
great clip woolldog May 2016 #91
CBS had it on the evening news Mnpaul May 2016 #92
Let us be honest about Samders spporters at DU... brooklynite May 2016 #79
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #80
Who are "Samders spporters"? Ken Burch Jun 2016 #99
Brown is one of our best liberal leaders. DCBob May 2016 #81
Being wrong on 1 or 2 issues is not a disqualifier phleshdef May 2016 #85
What a fucking shocker!! ronnykmarshall May 2016 #88
Hillary + Jerry : True Fracking Lurve... AzDar Jun 2016 #96
TY for that link. It explains in wonderful detail why some of us have a big problem with Brown and - ebayfool Jun 2016 #100
Brown's also STILL a hardline drug warrior(in a time when the drug war is totally discredited) Ken Burch Jun 2016 #98
let's be truthful about sanders. He's an opportunist with no real accomplishments. His only plan is MariaThinks Jun 2016 #101
Embarrassing post alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #107
What's embarrassing is the fracking support/denial I'm seeing in this thread. ebayfool Jun 2016 #109
The wheels on your bus go round and round, well-suited for throwing the latest apostate under. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #108
I wonder what you'll write when Elizabeth Warren endorses Hillary? book_worm Jun 2016 #110
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