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Showing Original Post only (View all)Lets be honest about Jerry Brown... [View all]
Jerry Brown is no real progressive, he's been a big supporter of fracking in California...
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0505-mckibben-california-fracking-20150502-story.html
But Brown continues to support fracking in the state's oil patch, and oil production increases. And that's a problem. It doesn't matter if everyone in California someday drives a Tesla. That oil will get shipped somewhere, and when it's burned, it will push global warming yet higher. It's as if the governor banned smoking in California but turned the Central Valley over to growing tobacco. And given the physics of climate change, secondhand carbon smoke is as damaging as burning it yourself.
That means Brown's legacy is double-edged: visionary on one side but status quo on the other.
And even worse, fracking in a time of drought is a remarkable obscenity. The process uses a tremendous amount of water. Trucks line up on rural roads in Kern County, not to deliver water to those communities where wells have run dry but to deliver it to drillers who inject it underground. What they bring back up is polluted wastewater.
That means Brown's legacy is double-edged: visionary on one side but status quo on the other.
And even worse, fracking in a time of drought is a remarkable obscenity. The process uses a tremendous amount of water. Trucks line up on rural roads in Kern County, not to deliver water to those communities where wells have run dry but to deliver it to drillers who inject it underground. What they bring back up is polluted wastewater.
And it's even worse, Jerry Brown has done nothing to protect plants and water used in California from being contaminated with fracking wastewater (and in fact, regulators basically allowed polluters to pollute California water.)
California Regulators Allowed Oil Industry To Drill Hundreds Of Wastewater Injection Wells Into Aquifers With Drinkable Water
http://www.desmogblog.com/2015/02/03/california-regulators-allowed-hundreds-oil-industry-wastewater-injection-wells-drilled-aquifers-drinkable-water
Update 02/11/15: The problems with California's underground injection control program are far worse than originally reported. It has now been revealed that California regulators with DOGGR not only permitted hundreds of wastewater injection wells but also thousands more wells injecting fluids for enhanced oil recovery into aquifers protected under the federal Safe Drinking Water Act.
Original post: The fallout from the ongoing review of Californias deeply flawed Underground Injection Control program continues as new documents reveal that state regulators are investigating more than 500 injection wells for potentially dumping oil industry wastewater into aquifers protected under the federal Safe Drinking Water Act as well as state law.
Original post: The fallout from the ongoing review of Californias deeply flawed Underground Injection Control program continues as new documents reveal that state regulators are investigating more than 500 injection wells for potentially dumping oil industry wastewater into aquifers protected under the federal Safe Drinking Water Act as well as state law.
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I would think the fracking-induced earthquakes in Oklahoma should make any Dem refuse to support it.
LonePirate
May 2016
#58
The US government was the first to "frack" OK. They pumped fluid down wells to dispose of it.
tonyt53
Jun 2016
#103
Oil companies are very influential with OK Repubs. That's why OK is passing abortion felony laws.
LonePirate
Jun 2016
#106
He has done very little to restore the drastic cuts to the social safety net that Ahh-nuld made
KamaAina
May 2016
#67
Are you also for the export of fracked petrochemical products to foreign markets?
KeepItReal
May 2016
#68
What the ? "Life isn't about 1 issue or fixing everything at once." First of all one is
rhett o rick
May 2016
#62
Interesting that Hillary supporters here act like fracking is no big deal
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#11
Amazing how litmus-test purity police discount the totality of a lifetime of good work
BeyondGeography
May 2016
#16
Fellow HRC endorser Tom Hayden thinks you're wrong about Brown's environmental record
BeyondGeography
May 2016
#23
Progressives put people first, Moderate / Conservative Republicans put Corporations first
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#22
Brown signs climate change bill to spur renewable energy, efficiency standards
Starry Messenger
May 2016
#27
Even the article you link goes out of its way to laud Brown's strong environmental record on most
TacoD
May 2016
#37
If your honest 99% of the time and you do a big lie, is that enough for others to lose trust in you?
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#39
If you are progressive on 99% of issues and wrong on a big one, is that enough for others to
TacoD
May 2016
#40
Tell me how you can justify poisoning the water supply and flirting with earthquake faults and....
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#59
The same way Bernie can justify helping murderers easily get guns. Everyone has something.
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#76
"Solid Dem" is not equivalent with "liberal" or "progressive" or "decent politician." [n/t]
Maedhros
May 2016
#32
They attack anyone who endorses Hillary. They are no more tolerant than the Tea Party IMO.
Trust Buster
May 2016
#35
Surprising how few here actually give a damn about the people in California
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#36
Some here denigrate a fantastic governor because he didn't endorse their candidate.
zappaman
May 2016
#48
If your good 99.9% of the time and then commit murder, does that still make you a good person?
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#51
Murder? Give me a break. Something tells me your contempt for Gov. Brown is newfound as of
TacoD
May 2016
#60
Fracking matters in California because a lot of it is in the Central Valley, where the nation's...
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#64
Much of the party is corrupt. That's what corporate money / special interest money does
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#54
Do you why he's for the Twin Tunnels Project even thought he knows it's DOA?
Brother Buzz
May 2016
#69
And not one has successfully defended fracking here. My purpose is done :D
AZ Progressive
May 2016
#66
If your purpose was to show you know fuck all about Jerry Brown, then success!
zappaman
May 2016
#72
metroins did upthread: it's less bad than coal, which is the other option (nt)
Recursion
Jun 2016
#97
TY for that link. It explains in wonderful detail why some of us have a big problem with Brown and -
ebayfool
Jun 2016
#100
Brown's also STILL a hardline drug warrior(in a time when the drug war is totally discredited)
Ken Burch
Jun 2016
#98
let's be truthful about sanders. He's an opportunist with no real accomplishments. His only plan is
MariaThinks
Jun 2016
#101
What's embarrassing is the fracking support/denial I'm seeing in this thread.
ebayfool
Jun 2016
#109
The wheels on your bus go round and round, well-suited for throwing the latest apostate under.
LanternWaste
Jun 2016
#108