Would ANYONE on DU suggest a Trump presidency is better or the same as HRC?

[cloudythescribbler]

I am a total Bernie supporter, one who strongly favored him running -- and running AS A DEMOCRAT IN THE PRIMARIES -- even before he declared, and have supported him including with multiple (modest) donations since day 1. I also support Bernie in his apparent position that after fighting as hard as possible for the nomination, and in the process getting as many delegates as possible so as to maximize leverage at the Convention, and SURELY in some form continuing his autonomous progressive movement efforts beyond the November elections no matter who wins -- he would support Hillary if she is the nominee

There are I know many, including on DU (from the sound of it, a higher percentage on DU than among Bernie supporters generally) who insist on "Bernie or Bust", not supporting Hillary no matter what.

This raises the question -- particularly pointed for those who have the opportunity to cast votes in swing states -- would a Trump presidency REALLY not be any worse for the country, and for progressive politics in the US, than Hillary? Really? As for the argument that a Trump presidency would make the pendulum swing way to the left, beyond neoliberalism and into the arms of progressives, this "radical perversity" is belied by history. When Nixon was leading in 1968 polls, Leonard Bernstein predicted that a Nixon presidency would bring on the revolution. We got Jimmy Carter instead. Some said the same about Reagan -- again no dice. And the disaster of the W presidency was followed by a neoliberal only slightly more progressive than the Clinton presidency. So where's that pendulum?

I am particularly interested in ANY DUers from swing states who do NOT think that a Trump presidency would be no worse than HRC for America or for progressives

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	A Trump presidency, however bad for America it might be, would be BETTER for progressives than HRC
	2 (7%)
	A Trump presidency, WOULD MAKE NO DIFFERENCE from an HRC presidency, from a progressive standpoint
	1 (3%)
	A Trump presidency WOULD BE A DISASTER FOR AMERICA AND FOR PROGRESSIVES
	18 (62%)
	A Trump presidency is JUST WHAT AMERICA NEEDS
	0 (0%)
	Other (w/comments please)
	8 (28%)
	4 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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