Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I do not accept the "official" results of the Arizona, Illinois, or New York primaries. [View all]Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)41. reformist2, please amend your AZ point to add this...
AZ: vote suppression by throwing eligible voters off the voting rolls and reducing number of voting places.
Thousands of people waited in 4 to 5 hour lines in AZ only to be told, when they got to the front of the line, that their registration had been CHANGED without their knowledge, and they couldn't vote, and there was no remedy.
Further, Clinton did well in early voting returns vs Sanders doing well in same day voting. There were no reported problems for early voters. This suggests that Sanders voters were targeted.
Also, the tactic of stripping people off the eligible voting list shows up in two different states--AZ and NY--which suggests a systemic problem.
It appears to me that what we are seeing is the result of the invasion of PRIVATE electronic corporations into our voting system, which began in the 2002 to 2004 period, leading up to the Bush-Cheney theft of 2004. The takeover of our system is now complete. All states are using 'TRADE SECRET' code in their systems--code that the public is forbidden by law to review. Half the states have no audit at all (comparison of ballots to electronic totals). The other half have a miserably inadequate 1% audit (not nearly sufficient to detect fraud). There is virtually no hand-counting any more. Even states that do have paper ballots use electronic scanners and 'TRADE SECRET' code tabulators to count them. Since 99% of the ballots are never seen by human eyes, the count can be tampered with and no one would know it.
The ONLY check we have on electronic fraud are exit polls, which are used everywhere in the world to detect election fraud. But, in 2004, here, they began quickly 'ADJUSTING' the exit polls to match the 'official count.' Jonathan Simon caught them at it with a screen shot, on election night 2004, showing a Kerry win in the exit polls, which were then ALTERED to reflect the 'official' 'TRADE SECRET' code result (Bush wins). Simon and others tried to get the polling firm (Edison-Mitofsky) to release their raw exit poll data but they never would.
Electronics makes stripping the voter rolls quick and easy, as well as making flipping votes quick and easy. And the use of private corporations opened our system to numerous entry points for fraudulent activities.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
78 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
I do not accept the "official" results of the Arizona, Illinois, or New York primaries. [View all]
reformist2
Apr 2016
OP
There is way too much talk of election irregularities from way too many places to be dismissing them
-none
Apr 2016
#6
And it isn't just talk. In many of these states there is evidence that will stand up in court.
reformist2
Apr 2016
#45
it does need addressed, in illinois election integrity activists need money to go to court
questionseverything
Apr 2016
#14
every American should want an honest vote count. if we can get that back
questionseverything
Apr 2016
#25
we need hand counted paper ballots at the precinct in full view on election night!
questionseverything
Apr 2016
#62