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80. Bill Black: Hillary, the Banksters Committed ‘Fraud,’ Not ‘Shenanigans'
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

by William K. Black
Daily Kos, Saturday Feb 06, 2016

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in her debate with Senator Sanders minutes ago, said that she went to Wall Street and told them to stop their "shenanigans." The context was that she was being asked to respond to the complaint that she was too close to on Wall Street billionaires. She had every incentive, therefore, to demonstrate how tough she would be on Wall Street.

In that context, the best she could muster was the pusillanimous "shenanigans." Here is a typical definition of that word with examples.



1. : a devious trick used especially for an underhand purpose 2. 2a : tricky or questionable practices or conduct --usually used in pluralb : high-spirited or mischievous activity --usually used in plural

Examples of SHENANIGAN 1. students engaging in youthful shenanigans on the last day of school 2. an act of vandalism that went way beyond the usual shenanigans at summer camp.



Hillary cannot bring herself to use the "f" word in the context of Wall Street CEOs leading the largest and most destructive fraud epidemics in history - frauds that made them spectacularly wealthy. A few minutes later, Bernie said that "fraud" was Wall Street's business model.

There Is No "If" -- Systemically Dangerous Banks Pose a "Systemic Risk"

Hillary then said that we should end systemically dangerous institutions (SDIs) "if" they posed "systemic risk" and praised President Obama for supporting Dodd-Frank provisions that provide a convoluted process for doing so that a new president likely could not use effectively. There can be disputes on the margins as to whether the 25th largest U.S. bank is systemically dangerous, but there is no question but that the largest 20 banks in the U.S. pose a systemic risk. There is no question but that President Obama has not, and will not, force a single one of them to shrink to the point that they no longer pose a systemic risk.

I do not think that many people believe that Hillary will force even a single gargantuan bank to do so, but if that is her intent, the word she needs to use is "will" rather than "if." Hillary should say: "If I am elected President I will promptly require the roughly 20 largest banks to shrink to a size where they no longer pose a systemic risk."

Hillary Did Not Take on Wall Street in 2007 --
She Blamed the Victims for Being Defrauded


In the debate tonight, Hillary again claimed that in her 2007 speech to Wall Street she came down on them like a ton of bricks. Hillary's most pointed two sentences in her supposed takedown of the banksters were:

But finally, responsibility also belongs to Wall Street, which not only enabled but often encouraged reckless mortgage lending... Wall Street may not have created the foreclosure crisis, but Wall Street certainly had a hand in making it worse.

No, the banksters made millions of deliberately fraudulent, not "reckless" loans and they most assuredly "created the foreclosure crisis." Hillary went on to throw the victims of these frauds under the bus -- blaming the foreclosure victims for not understanding the loans the brokers pushed on them.

CONTINUED...

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/6/1480801/-Bill-Black-Hillary-the-Banksters-Committed-Fraud-Not-Shenanigans
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But but TMontoya Apr 2016 #1
Wasn't she just arrested on Capital Hill? n/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #57
But... MOMENTUM! PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #2
I think you meant...NOMENTUM! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #26
+10 n/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #58
When you study advanced physics, you learn about something called "reverse momentum". George II Apr 2016 #68
Are the provisional ballots being counted yet? k8conant Apr 2016 #3
How many of them could there be? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #59
Not to mention she still won 60% of the state, so likely a majority of those voters are hers. MadBadger Apr 2016 #61
Bernie got 478,000+ and counting tonight. morningfog Apr 2016 #4
A quick look says that she did. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #9
(Almost) final counts - Clinton 1,037,344 - Sanders 752,739 (+284,605).... George II Apr 2016 #69
Bah hahahahaha. Lol. What an hoot! Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #5
She just wiped out all of those Bernie wins.... Walk away Apr 2016 #6
too bad the presidency is not won on the popular vote gabeana Apr 2016 #7
It's won on delegates. He's losing on that measure too. Codeine Apr 2016 #10
No shit sherlock gabeana Apr 2016 #17
Sorry to interrupt you having a sadz. Codeine Apr 2016 #19
Nay your just acting like an idiot gabeana Apr 2016 #27
"you're" Codeine Apr 2016 #29
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #32
So much anger, young Padawan. Codeine Apr 2016 #33
thanks I appreciate that gabeana Apr 2016 #42
I got you good huh, you didn't know how to respond gabeana Apr 2016 #45
I got bored. Codeine Apr 2016 #48
If you were bored you wouldn't have responded gabeana Apr 2016 #49
Do vampires sleep? Rockyj Apr 2016 #79
I think he leads in yard signs griffi94 Apr 2016 #51
Ha! Walk away Apr 2016 #66
And THAT my friends, is MOMENTUM. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #8
Yep!!! Hillary wins in large DIVERSE states. St Bernard does not. beaglelover Apr 2016 #22
Yeah but he won in Utah griffi94 Apr 2016 #53
The PEOPLE have spoken! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #11
Yay Democrats! Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #25
She also won more delegates... Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #12
Net loss of 31 angrychair Apr 2016 #60
71% Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #73
K&R mcar Apr 2016 #13
Comparing apples and oranges. A lot of Bernies wins were in caucuses where fraud isn't as easy to Skwmom Apr 2016 #14
That's not a serious statement. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #15
+1, It's like la la land around here !! uponit7771 Apr 2016 #39
Hilary's win tonight will NEVER be seen as clean or honest azurnoir Apr 2016 #16
To who? Renew Deal Apr 2016 #20
I am guessing by the Bernie followers on DU and Reddit!!! Walk away Apr 2016 #67
The establishment usually has a hard time recognizing the "others" accomplishments uponit7771 Apr 2016 #41
OMG. Not "shenanigans" again. For the love of God COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #77
Bill Black: Hillary, the Banksters Committed ‘Fraud,’ Not ‘Shenanigans' Octafish Apr 2016 #80
But, how Wyoming goes, so goes the country! grossproffit Apr 2016 #18
Yep, it's the math stupid!! Bernie math ain't reality! beaglelover Apr 2016 #21
Don't bring Math and facts into this. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #23
Exactly. Votes. Numbers. People who count. nolabear Apr 2016 #24
But, but, but, he won 8 in a row! George II Apr 2016 #28
Another interesting factoid. Hillary received more votes tonight than all 3 Republicans combined. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #30
Hillary wins the cities... Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #31
Kinda puts it in perspective doesn't it? And I say this as a Bernie supporter. Still In Wisconsin Apr 2016 #34
Thank you Still In Wisconsin. pnwmom Apr 2016 #38
I don't think it will be that hard. Important thing for Bernie supporters is to acknowledge Still In Wisconsin Apr 2016 #44
Thanks again! pnwmom Apr 2016 #47
I don't know about the goal posts having been moved. Still In Wisconsin Apr 2016 #50
Classy post. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #63
Thanks shenmue Apr 2016 #64
Thank you! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #65
Thanks for a very classy post NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #74
Thank you. n/t murielm99 Apr 2016 #54
+1. Refreshing. nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #78
Wow - thank you, Still In Wisconsin! calimary Apr 2016 #56
Same thing with Florida. This is why he can't catch up. She's won all the big states so far. pnwmom Apr 2016 #35
Meaningless. Did she win 7x more delegates tonight than he did? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #36
Did she? Maybe. But it's true that tiny caucus states do have a disproportionate share, pnwmom Apr 2016 #40
Each state should have 1/50th of a share, with DC being the scale tipper. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #43
Hah! I understand the concept perfectly well. And I disagree with you that it should require pnwmom Apr 2016 #46
That's beyond goofy. nt Codeine Apr 2016 #72
It isn't if you want to go to a popular vote and get rid of the electoral college. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #75
Sanders won more votes tonight than Trump and Kasich combined. nt mhatrw Apr 2016 #37
Funny that... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #52
Now THAT is impressive. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #55
And Sanders, who lost, still got 220,000 more votes than Trump Number23 Apr 2016 #62
Bernie won over 700,000 NY votes amborin Apr 2016 #70
Hillary broke one million Renew Deal Apr 2016 #71
K & R LAS14 Apr 2016 #76
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